AllenLowe

I've never made near a living as a musician - my best year, maybe I made $10,000. On the other hand I regard musicians as their own worst enemies. Chuck is right - few have any sense of the larger business picture, they undermine each other, there's no real sense of community. That's why I work for an insurance company, so I can strike back at guys like Chuck - CLAIM DENIED!

well, I just follow orders...

nothing wrong with military intelligence - actually, Lee Harvey Oswald worked for military intelligence - I actually know a guy up in Minnesota to whom Oswald confided this at Balboa Naval base some time in the early 1960s - by day I work for an insurance company. By night I sleep -

hopefully it will also list assaults -

well put!

true, but it sounded like he was playing in the parkling lot -

"Take it outside!! " well, it's a little too cold where I live to do this today - and thanks for your support, Chris - let's just let it ride -

I love Don Byas's version - nice one also by Bird with strings -

well, not exactly, Dan , as you managed to throw in a jab at me related to a post in an entirely different thread; Yanow knows a little bit but not enough, is shallow in his historical analysis, and takes such a generalist approach to jazz history as to make his books virtually worthless. Just my opinion.

just for some historical perspective - in my opinion the further jazz has moved from it's folk roots, the less justified are we in calling in black music. It is not racially or ethnically specific. There's a great passage by Ralph Ellison in which he points out that the music is transmitted culturally, not genetically. Of course African Americans had some advantage intially in the development of the music, but mass distribution has largely taken care of that. Still, we musn't lose sight of the fact (and I'm not saying that we have, here ) that virutally all of the special quality of American vernacular music comes from the contributions of African Americans, at least initially. And I would add that I consider the African American cultural heritage part of my own heritage, as it is very specifically American.

I'm going to remain above the fray here, Dan - let's keep our personal things outside -

god help us if Scott Yanow is among the most influential -

let's not get violent, boys, but part of the problem is that Lou Donaldon plays well, but is basically an uninspired soloist in any context (OK, start the screaming and yelling) -

beautiful tune - but let's not forget Johnny Mercer, who wrote the great lyrics -

there are many problems with his late recordings - first, Tommy Campbell, the drummer, sucks, is way too loud; the electric bass dominates the group. The ironic thing is that Sonny, at one time, was working to unclutter the rhythm section; the late groups are nothing but clutter. Also, I hate the sound of the albums; Sonny started using that clip-on microphone, which is incredibly un-natural sounding. And most of the studio albums were mixed terribly, and sound like they were recorded with complete isolation. Sonny sounds like he phoned it in, and everything is equallly loud, as though they were fantasizing they might get some commercial air play. Sad stuff -

"the roots of jazz in america are in the blues" - unproveable and basically untrue - though I agreee that jazz and all of American pop music comes from the musical habits of African Americans - but there's a lot more to it than the blues -

I remember he always used to appear on the Alan Burke Show during the 1960s -

Forget about Oprah and jazz - I heard that she was somewhere accepting an award at the same time as Sonny Rollins - and it turned out she had never heard of Sonny Rollins!

Kenny- I was just goofing - I'm sure Melbourne is fine, as is your station. WKCR just has a particular history -

this is different because its...WKCR - a superior station in every way, which should be supported - Melbourne is ok, but let's face it, it's Melbourne -

jeez, that record Hot Dog is god-awful, to me it smacks of the sad-ass jazz attitude that "hey we can make one of them rock and roll records and make lotsa cash 'cause them kiddies don't know one thing from another it's all the same to them"

I think it's nuts to leave tube equipment on all the time - NOS tubes are slowly disappearing, current production tubes suck, and I hope you guys are all using the good old stuff -

He made some live recordings with Frank Sinatra that are quite good -

ahhh - all those other recordings are masterpieces compared to Hot Dog -

Hot Dog is the worst and most inept attempt at funk that I have ever heard, and that's saying something -