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  2. Proper Box, Mosaic and Eldridge set Question

    in Mosaic and other box sets...

    Posted · Edited by P.D.

    I'm a bit puzzled here as to the original post

    The overlap is only one disc.. its not as though the Proper box is an exact copy of the Mosaic.If it were I would agree with the negative comments directed towards Proper.

    Proper give you an historical 3 disc sampling of Roy up to the early Verve days... Mosaic gives you all of Roy's verve dates.. all this music is worth hearing if you like Eldridge.

    I doubt the Verve dates will be completely available elsewhere... but there are plenty of other CDs.. where the ealy music can be found... The Proper Box would not be my choice for early Roy.. as I prefer to have a more comprehensive coverage of this period in his career..

    And as someone up there said... you got the Proper free.....

  4. Wes Montgomery session

    in Discography

    Posted · Edited by P.D.

    Hi there,

    is there any chance that someday we could see a "complete Wes Montgomery on Verve and on A&M" (since Universal owns A&M stuff too)???????

    Miky

    :w

    Not a big fan of the A&M sides but BGO have just issued this

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    I assume if it sells well, the other A&M will follow.

  5. Why do so many people hate Lonehill and other imports?

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    Posted

    I agree on the crappy quality of their reissues. I bought only one so far - Jon Hendricks' "A Goog Git Together", as I was looking for that one as long as I collect jazz - and was disappointed by the design, and most importantly, the sound quality.

    My only Lonehill as well, and I agree. Not only that, there was one track from the LP omitted ("everything started in the house of the lord").

    But we'll all commit a sin if it's something we really want.....

    Is it any different to swapping CDr's?

    Well they are doing it for profit

    Most of us who CDR something obscure for another board member profit in return, by a CDR of something back

    Isn't copying a CD for profit illegal?

    This ain't preserving a legacy. This is selling smack to junkies.

    Jim

    Aren't we all jazz junkies here...... :g

  6. Why do so many people hate Lonehill and other imports?

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    Posted

    at the risk of suffering the wrath of those who are gathered here, I have to admit I don't mind Lonehill and Fresh Sound as long as they do a decent mastering (or copying) job - the truth is that, without bootleggers, we would have about half the picture we now have of jazz history. I do have a problem when specific projects are copied (like a Mosaic box) but when otherwise unavailable recordings are made available than it's all to the good - especially since I'd be willing to bet that the majors are paying nothing in royalties to artists and their estates anyway

    My thoughts exactly.

    Same here. Allen summed it perfectly and expressed it better than I would have...

    And again..

    just look at the coverage of west coast jazz they have, THe Candoli's, Stu Williamson, Don Fagerquist, Childers, Ferguson..... and that's just some of the trumpet players....

    If the " legit" companies served these up at reasonable prices, I'm sure most of us would go there.

  7. Meet Don Rendell

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    Don Rendell Sextet

    Dickie Hawdon flgl, Din Rendell, Ronnie Ross tenor, Damien Robinson pno, Ashley Kozak bass, Derek Hogg drums

    London Jun 9 1954

    My Heart Belongs to Daddy

    Little Boy Green

    Dickie Hawdon flgl, tpt, Din Rendell tenor, Ronnie Ross bari, Damien Robinson pno, Pete Elderfield bass, Don Lawson drums

    London Feb 22 1955

    Sinbad the Sailor

    Didn’t We

    Muskrat Ramble

    Thames Walk

    Dance of the Ooblies

    Don Rendell Quartet..

    same session as above w/o Hawdon and Ross

    You Stepped Out of a Dream

    Sometimes I’m Happy

    Slow Boat to China

    Yesterdays

    Don Rendell tenor, Damien Robinson pno, Sammy Stokes bass, Benny Goodman drums

    London May 2 1955

    Top Hat, White Tie and Tails

    That Old Feeling

    New Orleans

    From this Moment On

    Body and Soul

    Blow Mr. Dexter

    Don Rendell Quintet

    Don Rendell tenor, Ronnie Ross bariDamien Robinson pno, Sammy Stokes bass, Benny Goodman drums

    London May 16 1955

    The Griffin*

    Cool Sparks*

    Carolet*

    Some of Us*

    * Rendell compositions

  9. New Mosaic Singles Series!

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    Posted

    "not in the USA"

    Well I sort of understood that, but the Cosmic I got was bought at Rose's Records ( when they still existed) in Chicago, purchased to replace the LP

    Good addition to the Ellington catalogue for those who are unfamiliar with it

    The "Brothers " was also bought in a routine USA store .. If Mosaic found the same "extra" tracks that are on there I suspect they didn't have to look far.. still is a bit Lonehill-ish though

    the J.J.'s I did import.

    When Mosaic started, their approach was somewhat unique and a boon to collectors of hard to find jazz recordings. These days the scene is much different,possibly due to Mosaic proving a market for quality jazz reissues, and it must be quite difficult to come up with sets that have appeal and consist of little that is not available elsewhere.

    Still these will be a plus for those unfamiliar with the recordings, although as someone above pointed out, it's rare that I pay over $13.00 for a single CD due to internet purchases.

  10. New Mosaic Singles Series!

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    Posted

    But hey, the Ellington has never been on cd anywhere! And it's good.

    Well I've had a CD copy since 1992

    This is what I wrote on the "Other" board

    Don't take it wrong, I like Mosaic.. but if the "Never available on CD", and "extra tracks previously unreleased" statements are not correct, it creates a bit of a "Madison Ave Commercialism" that hasn't been part of the Mosaic image in the past.

    "Most of these have been, or are available on CD'

    The Cosmic scene is a nice set, but I have it on CD, and it would appear that there is no additional material

    It was made in Holland but may have been a British issue, printed there,and was readily available in the record stores

    My copy of The Brothers.. was a "complete" session, with four extra tracks that the previous edition lacked.. 16 titles altogether.. does this mean Mosaic will have 20 tracks?

    J.J. is also available as are the other J.J. Johnson RCA discs

    Total J.J.

    Broadway Express

    The Dynamic Sound of J.J. with the Big Band

    All legit. BMG Spain issues.. no extra material

    Might have been better served as Select set

    The rest are scattered over other discs. Perhaps the Lloyds is the only one that hasn't been issued ( except maybe in Japan)

    So not much here for those of us who have been around a bit, unless sound quality is dramatically different and better

    But some good recordings if they are new to you.

    Still bit "unhappy" if Mosaic are going to make "never released on CD' claims that are erroneous. Those kind of statements belong in the " Lonehill" camp"

  12. Arnett Cobb, any thoughts?

    in Artists

    Posted · Edited by P.D.

    Hampton took Cobb to fill Jacquets chair in 1942 and he took over the "Flying Home" role which might have contributed to his hard blowing approach that some see to be too much of the honker variety.

    Just in case you have "guilt" about Cobb, this is a good excuse to listen to him

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    But for his Prestige sides.. Party Time is generally the first place to go.

  13. Wes Montgomery session

    in Discography

    Posted · Edited by P.D.

    For Tooter

    Stephenson's Rocket is indeed a Mike Carr composition.

    It was first recoprded by the EMCEE FIVE, the band led by the Carr Brothers with Ronnie Stephenson on drums.

    The first recording was in London Dec 14 1961 and can be found on this

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    The Cd Tooter refers to was a later disc by a new Carr led band recorded in 2002 where they included and named the disc, after the tune.

    The tune was obviously named after Ronnie who played on the original, but also was, as die hard "trainspotters" will know, a reference to the Robert Stephenson's Rocket.

    Stephensons factory was a big employer in and around the Newcastle area.

    I haven't heard the Motgomery didc but I assume the tune is the same.. unless of course Ross composed a different tune and was also a railway buff

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    For guitar addicts , the above disc also includes an early ( 1967) track of John McLaughlin playing with the Carr quartet at the New Orleans Jazz club in Newcastle

  17. Bunky Green

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    Posted

    PS - I think the "Stitt goes green" also includes the album Sonny did with Bennie Green. A good coupling, in my view. MG

    Yes looking at the track listing it includes the " My Main Man" Stitt with Bennie Green album.. it will be on my next order to Fresh Sound or Absolute Distribution as I think they now call themselves...

    OK they're a bit of a "bootlegger" but where else do you get this stuff at reasonable prices?

  19. Hal McKusick

    in Artists

    Posted · Edited by P.D.

    Lonehill have also released " The Art Farmer / Hal McKusick Quintet - The Complete Studio recordings, originally done for Decca.. I believe.

    There was a Decca CD of these released 1995. The Lonehill has a slightly different track listing, adding in versions of Criss Cross and Makin' Whoopee which were not on the Decca, plus three "bonus" sextet tracks from an RCA date.. probably George Russells Jazz Workshop series

  20. Ellington on Bethlehem

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    Posted · Edited by P.D.

    This was originally released as " Historically Speaking" and was represented as something of a "retrospective of Duke up to the present day ( 1955 at the time)

    It was one of my first modern jazz records, got for Christmas 55, and was my first Ellington.

    Became a total convert.. espescially to Hodges after hearing Jeep and Mellotone.

    It did have, however, one of the worst covers for a Jazz album.

    Might have suited a Halloween issue

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    There is a companion album... "Duke Ellington presents" with a nice version of Cottontail

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    A number of CD issues combined tracks from both albums.. currently a Lonehill issue which also has some of the Capitol tracks from the 55 period

  21. Carmell Jones Pacific Jazz 45

    in Discography

    Posted

    There was an edited version of the song on a double LP Pacific Jazz anthology which contained (mostly) edited versions of material from their whole catalog to that point.  ("Prime Cuts?"  Early '60's.))  My introduction to some good music, and I always enjoyed getting the original albums and hearing what I'd missed.

    THE Jones " Blues March" is indeed an edited version of " Sad March"

    I don't have the 45 but do have the double LP described by DMP and strongly suspect the 45 is the edited track from it.

    What was the "b" side of the 45?

  23. Gil Evans & Ten

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    Posted

    This session was released with fairly drastic tape doctoring..

    is this new issue also made from manipulated tracks.. or do these "newly" discovered tapes give us a chance to hear this music in it's "virgin" condition?

    Anybody know?

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