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PM sent on the Moncur and the two Bartz live@Jazz Standard CD's
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This album was my entryway into the whole world of jazz. Pulled it off a browser in the college library in the fall of 1972 because I had heard Coltrane's name mentioned as an impact on the Byrds and the Jefferson Airplane, put it on the turntable in the library, listened through headphones while I cranked out a paper for English Comp 101, and was hooked for life as soon as I heard Elvin Jones enter in following the opening fanfare.
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#7 is the title track from Azar Lawrence's"Bridge Into the New Age", which was in the first wave of jazz albums I ever bought. I really liked McCoy Tyner's "Enlightenment" album, on which Azar is the featured horn player, so when I saw "Bridge..." I bought it and also liked it. To my knowledge it has never been reissued on CD. Thanks for the memories!
I came to that album through the same path. It came out last year on Japanese CD. Got mine for about $20 on ebay - it's much more expensive on Amazon.
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I recall the time on Board Krypton, somebody asked tomatbluenote, hey, these recent Jackie McLean Blue Note records have been great, when's the next one, and tomat, honest man that he was/is, had to say, well, they're not really blue Note, they're leased from Japan, and you now, we'd love to have the money to make Jackie McLean records from now until infinity but we don't, and we're not, and that was that.
Which reminds me of the time I saw Jackie and asked him about his old Blue Note recordings and if he was still making money off of them. His rather bitter answer was that he never made any money off of them. He sounded pretty peeved and he wasn't joking. I was very surprised when I saw those latter day Blue Notes after talking to him about it.
Of course, none of this explains that date he did with McCoy Tyner ("It's About Time") for Blue Note. Maybe they paid him enough to make it worth his while?
Other people know this better than I do, but wasn't the practice to pay an advance, which was offset against earnings, and also charge all studio costs, also offset, and perhaps also the fixed fees paid to the other musicians, with the result that there were usually never any net earnings beyond the initial advance?
I thought the leaders got double scale but no royalties for those Blue Notes. Chuck would know for sure.
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Post-Milestone Bartz?
Milestone Bartz.
Ah! "Perihelion And Aphelion" from Another Earth. I keep forgetting that that record has a Side 2...reminder both needed and appreciated.
Glad to be of service
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I know I perhaps hi-jacked my own thread by posing the question of which two records would grab out of your burning house -- but I've avoided answering myself because it's so damn hard. Almost positive that one of them would be "One Step Beyond." But choosing the second one, whew .... I mean, I want Swing, Swang, Swingin', "Bluesnik," the bebop half of "Hipnosis," "Jacknife" and, to put my money where my mouth has been, "Dynasty."
Shoulda said you could take three ...
Or five and a half...
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Amazon UK is offering this 16-CD Earth Wind & Fire set for £30.
(Edit to add) And the Philadelphia International 20-CD set for the same price.
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I just ordered the EWF, and it come to 28.08 pounds including shipping to USA. Thanks for the tip!
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Depending on where you order from, aDE's 35€ might be the better offer:
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00IOQSW7A/
I've eyed this, but I really know sh*t about the music it contains ... would it be of interest to someone (uhm, me) who prefers soul the raw southern (Stax) way?
NO............
It is great stuff, but it is the antithesis of raw & southern.
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Those Blue Note hard bop albums, "Capuchin Swing", "Bluesnik", "Jackie's Bag" and the like, were wonderful.
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Well, I think I stand no chance on this one. Thanks for putting it together, felser. I think I'll just sit back and quietly read the thread.
Well, I think I stand no chance on this one. Thanks for putting it together, felser. I think I'll just sit back and quietly read the thread.
Just enjoy! Hope you discover some new music you like.
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"Appointment in Ghana", followed by "Melody for Melanie".
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Crystal Illusions is a darn good album as a whole, you can proceed with confidence, imo.
I second that emotion. The title track is a landmark, and "Empty Faces" is on this album.
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Cool Andrew Hill story, Bill!
I think you have related your Klemmer remembrance at another time. Martial arts poses, what a dork.
I saw Klemmer open for Weather Report ca. 1975-1976. He wasn't bad, not goofy like in Bill's story. But he seemed to really be going somewhere with those Chess and Impulse recordings, then really went off the rails. I love the track "Touch" and like that album and 'Barefoot Ballet' OK, but their success seems to have ruined him. 'Course, he has always seemed to march to a different drummer, so it may have been inevitable.
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8 Different singer. Good singer. Interesting song. Interesting and often exciting accompaniment. No idea who.
You may well be very surprised by this one in the reveal
MG
Actually, I'm not very surprised. I always liked Mendes and have been exploring Latin music a lot lately and intending to get properly into him soon. This will encourage me to do that sooner, rather than later. Thanks.
MG
This is a good starting place. 48 cuts, all from the prime A&M era, including the one from this BFT.
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Blimey, this was a nice ride! Here we go.
1 Oh, pretty advanced music here. Obviously competent, but not my cup of tea, or within the scope of my knowledge.
Yet a name you will be familiar with.
2 Well, I don’t suppose it is, but this makes me think of Herbie Mann with Chick Corea. But when he stated talking, it obviously wasn’t Mann. Early seventies Black Revolutionary Ensemble or some such band with much influence from the Last Poets.
OK, if this song is called ‘Complete the circle’, it’s by Ju Ju, from Chapter 2: Nia. You shouldn’t put stuff on with titles mentioned and those by only one band ever. Sorry.
Damn good, though. Glad to hear this.
It is the Juju track. And I am more interested in sharing good music people may not be familiar with than I am in "fooling" people, so I am glad you enjoyed it!
3 A bit of hard bop by a biggish band with a fleet trumpeter who might as well be Freddie Hubbard. Great for what it is. Band is a bit too brassy for me. Needs more saxes.
Yes, Hubbard.
4 Oh, it’s groove time in the old homestead! One thing about the hard boppers I always liked – they can put a good groove on when they relax and don’t try so hard. It wouldn’t surprise me if the drummer were Idris Muhammad. But it wouldn’t surprise me if it weren’t, because I think I might be able to ID it if it were. I probably know the horn players, but can’t finger them. Damn good!
Not Muhammad. You're right about the sax player.
5 Is Bennie Maupin the tenor player here? Never really paid much attention to him, though I have a few things with him on them. I don’t think he and the trumpet player have quite enough to them to sustain this for a quarter of an hour, but we’ll see. Five minutes in and no flagging of interest here. Eight – I’m supposed to get tonight’s dinner in from the garage freezer, but I can’t stop this. Well, for a change, I do not think the trumpet player is Freddie Hubbard (so it probably is
) The piano player seems a bit under-recorded – I mean, quiet and overpowered by the drummer. Can’t concentrate on him. Well, back with the chore done and a cuppa made and now we’re on the low-powered bass solo. Same problem, overcome by the drummer. This is either the engineer’s fault or the drummer’s. Perhaps it’s a live recording, in which case everyone does the best they can.OK, this was good except for the sound, which wasn’t up to scratch for the piano and bass, or the drummer, who was too loud. It’s not often a bit of hard bop chains me to my seat..
Not Maupin or Hubbard. This is a later generation vinyl rip, which may account for some of the sound deficiencies.
6 More of the same, with a lady singer, whose voice I don’t like much. But the tenor player is WAILIN’. Woooooo!!! Yes, Word, I know it’s a spelling mistake. Damn good drummers you’ve picked for this BFT young man! And you can hear the pianist clearly. Backings like this are one good reason to use electric pianos. Hazard a guess at George Coleperson on sax, but without much conviction.
Not Coleman, drummer's album.
7 Same singer? Sax player sounds as if it MIGHT be Harold Vick, this time. No, Coleperson again. Not Coleperson, much too Hendersonlike for George.
Yes, same singer. Not Vick or Coleman.
8 Different singer. Good singer. Interesting song. Interesting and often exciting accompaniment. No idea who.
You may well be very surprised by this one in the reveal
9 Heavy rhythm sections, you’ve chosen. I can see what someone meant about the flow of this programme. I immediately like this trumpet man: dramatic but not silly with it. I doubt if I’ve heard him before. Soprano man’s a bit ordinary, though good. The only soprano saxmen I can identify are Fathead and Sidney, and it’s neither of them. Pianist sounds a bit like Cedar Walton to me.
Not Walton. This is the most obscure track in the BFT.
10 Ah, relaxed, almost balladic version of a tune I can’t identify. “Prince of Peace”. Well, it was always a ballad. The singer sounds foreign – not American, that is. Oh and he can sing!!! Oh, this is something! Live and he’s well liked by the crowd. So he probably IS American, but with a slightly different accent. I feel the pianist is familiar. I like what he’s making of this a lot. The tenor player is right there, welcoming me in. A right little band of masters here. Don’t know who this is, except there’s a version by Tony Esposito.
The singer is American. The pianist is very well known, and yet may be quite a surprise.
11 Gawd, another good song by a good singer with an interesting delivery. Never heard this singer before. I get a strong feeling someone’s been listening to Gil Scott-Heron here, but can do it better. A lot better.
Singer would certainly be familiar with Scott-Heron. And is much better known in UK than in USA, though he is an American.
Really NICE stuff in this BFT young sir. Mostly very enjoyable. You have my thanks, Squire. I await the reveal with great interest.
Thank you for your kind, enjoyabie, and insightful comments, glad you enjoyed it!
MG
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Bob Dylan - "Like a Rolling Stone"
Simon & Garfunkel - "Sounds of Silence"
Byrds - "Eight Miles High"
Byrds - "Renaissance Fair"
We Five - "You Let a Love Burn Out"
H.P. Lovecraft - "Wayfaring Stranger"
Quicksilver Messenger Service - "The Fool"
Jimi Hendrix - "All Along The Watchtower"
Jefferson Airplane - "Wooden Ships"
Santana - "Every Step of the Way"
Wishbone Ash - "Phoenix"
Labelle - "Phoenix (The Amazing Flight of a Lone Star)"
Gil Scott-Heron - "Peace Be With You Brother"
U2 - "I Will Follow"
Bangles - "Hazy Shade of Winter"
Neil Young - "Rockin' in the Free World"
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I'm loving your BFT#129, by the way. I think I've heard maybe two songs but I couldn't think of names. Incredibly consistent mood across it! It flows like an album.
Thanks, so glad you're enjoying it! I did give some thought to flow, nice that it was recognized.
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I find late Pepper really grabs me. I admire 50's Pepper, relish 70's-80's Pepper
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A bit of research suggests Ernie Watts and Patrice Rushen accompanying Trible perhaps? If so, how's the rest of the album?
Yes. Rest is excellent if you like Trible (and liked Thomas). I do and did.
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Post-Milestone Bartz?
Milestone Bartz.
Really enjoying listening to this selection. Love the overall vibe. Hopeless at identifying but others are doing that nicely for me
I do wonder whether that's Dwight Trible singing on track 10. I know that voice and he's the only one that comes to ind at the moment
thank you for ending with one of my Desert Island discs - peerless Callier
Yes, Trible. The interesting names are the tenor player and pianist. Thrilled that you share the love for the Callier cut!
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Oh crap, that's Eric Kloss with Hannibal! DUH! I should have recognized that, didn't sound that much like George Adams, but it was the only name who came to mind with Hannibal, and I made myself believe it. Sorry
You got it.
But I am confused about Not Jean Carn on Azar's "Bridge into the New Age"...really?
My turn for duh - you're right. I had in my head it was Dee Dee Bridgewater. I have a long history of crossing wires on those two on material from that period. Sorry! I've edited my original comment so as to not proliferate the confusion.
On #1, does "not Spaulding" mean IS Bartz, or wrong on both counts?
It's Bartz. Great job!
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I own a half dozen of these cuts that I didn't ID (Cowell. Muhammad which I reakky liked, Hill, Mitchell-Ruff, Lytle. Whitaker, Klemmer), plus the Blakey I ID'd, but primarily come away wondering "who in the world is D.B. Shrier and how do I get that album"?
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'One Step Beyond' and 'Jacknife'.
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I suspect David will have multiple copies of those titles available.