DobermanBoston

I thought English was the forum's language, not German. Not everyone here speaks or reads German. Können Sie Deutschen nicht lesen? I do read and speak German (ich lese und spreche Deutsch), but not everyone here does and English is the forum's language; I think everyone should post in English, if only as a courtesy to others. imho, if you really have something exciting to share than every language is fine - in this particular case, the poster was telling a story (evans using the rest of his contract with impulse to push two admired artists) which is widely available everywhere - in such a case imho if you don't speak english well then just post a link... otherwise i'm with larry, there are quite a few posts about carisi around here and he doesn't deserve to be put down (meaning: saying you don't like the music of his you've heard is one thing, but saying "he played on Birth of the Cool" in a way that suggests that you played on "Kind of Blue" and consider it superior.... ;-) ) HAHAHAHAHA! Nah, I have nothing against Carisi, but a lot of people who played with Miles Davis could fairly be referred to as "some guy," even Bennie Maupin who is one of my favorites. I far prefer Bennie's reed work to Wayne Shorter's but Shorter, because of his notoriety, could never be called "some guy". It's not really a value judgement.

My better half is a fan of their early, better stuff. Personally I prefer Blood Sweat and Tears on the rare occasions I want to listen to that kind of music.

I thought English was the forum's language, not German. Not everyone here speaks or reads German. Können Sie Deutschen nicht lesen? I do read and speak German (ich lese und spreche Deutsch), but not everyone here does and English is the forum's language; I think everyone should post in English, if only as a courtesy to others. I was just being funny, or trying to be.

I think alternates were recorded but were never issued. The Taylor tracks which appeared on Impulse A-9 were later issued on the Taylor/Rudd compilation, Mixed. Yes, the Rudd portion is his fantastic Impulse! album Everywhere with Giuseppe Logan.

I thought English was the forum's language, not German. Not everyone here speaks or reads German. Können Sie Deutschen nicht lesen? I don't believe so. I am a huge Cecil Taylor fan and have never heard (or even heard of) any outtakes. Then again until last year I had always assumed that this record was just a lesser, cash-in follow up to Out of The Cool a la Oliver Nelson's More Blues and The Abstract Truth.

So sad. My favorite Motian record is Dance, which was also David Izenson's last record if I'm not mistaken. Steve-Mat is a SUPERB violinist. I did not know Motian mentored him.

I never claimed it was little known. Carisi is pretty much whatever the music version is of a television character actor is. He played with some of the swing guys and on Birth of The Cool, right?

I think he's one of the all time greats! Agreed with the OP on Dortmund. "Composition 40F" is probably my favorite Braxton tune. Any of the Hat Hut/Hat Art or Arista releases are good starting points IMO.

Strange little record. Supposedly a sequel to Out of the Cool, but it's really Gil just fronting for Cecil Taylor and some guy named John Carisi, whose orchestra alternates tracks with the Cecil Taylor Unit. The Cecil half of it is excellent; the only recording of his I know of that featured both Jimmy Lyons and Archie Shepp. The Carisi stuff isn't very good though.

I just discovered this band before I went on vacation a few weeks ago. Overall it's really, really good stuff but the lyrics bug me so I prefer the wordless numbers, and therefore the earlier records.

I VERY much agree here. In order I would say, for me, ...Golden Circle Two, ...Golden Circle One and New York is Now.

Yes, it is. Sanders is great throughout and Cecil McBee's bass line on the title track wouldn't be out of place on a Black Sabbath album!

A lot of it was and is too earnest for my liking, and I'm not a fan of choirboy vocals either. That's probably why I like early Genesis more than most other bands of that sort. Gabriel didn't take himself too seriously in the lyrics department and he had a lot of R&B influence in his vocal style too. If you can call 1970-1973 Soft Machine "prog" (many would call it "fusion" or "electronic music") than I dig that too. Same deal with Can and the original Mothers of Invention. They were both great bands but a lot of people think prog has to be from the UK.

That must have been an intense year. I had always pictured Old and New Dreams as a band that played large venues, between their ECM status and their former boss' own draw. They were like the "edgy" answer to VSOP! Apparently Brandeis here in Massachusetts had a lot of those folks up at around the same time. An acquaintance recorded a 1979 Holland solo performance from their radio station WBRS and it was fantastic. And thanks for the recommendations everyone. I need to pick up the latest Lewis release and that older Altschul one....

That's easily one of my favorite Blue Note records. As far as sideman appearances go Hancock is great on this one; Chambers too.