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  1. Does Oscar Peterson get a bad rap?

    Have we not put it to bed?
  2. Does Oscar Peterson get a bad rap?

    Yes, time to put that other issue to bed. I was trying to steer the thread into Oscar plays "sounds of the season."
  3. Does Oscar Peterson get a bad rap?

    I like a fair amount of the Pablo records, especially Live! from 1986. He often had Joe Pass in the band and those two could really rip it up--and often did. But this had the interesting "Bach Suite" (3 parts) with a mellow Andante--and the album closes with the beautiful ballad "If You Only Knew."
  4. Does Oscar Peterson get a bad rap?

    The Christmas album is rather good, although there is a needless addition of "strings" on several cuts. Still, this is tasteful and enjoyable music--one of the better Christmas albums from a jazz musician.
  5. Does Oscar Peterson get a bad rap?

    What do you think of pianists in the avant garde area--most particularly Cecil Taylor?
  6. Does Oscar Peterson get a bad rap?

    At this point, I'm asking for recommendations. Other than the Stratford Festival record, what are the best albums representing the Peterson/Ellis/Brown trio?
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    It looks like we are still having trouble getting volunteers for the early months of next years. I would be happy to do February or March.
  8. Does Oscar Peterson get a bad rap?

    That may be largely true, but then there's the whole issue of over-simplifying--the notion that OP is overwrought in EVERYTHING he plays.
  9. Does Oscar Peterson get a bad rap?

    I don't think anything has been proven other than the subjectivity of listeners and the fact that parallels don't stand up. For example, many find Peterson's playing is overwrought. But the parallel might be drawn that many jazz greats are just as overwrought: Bird, Coltrane, Blakey, and many more. But they bring on the virtuosity for other reasons and to other effects. I didn't know that Evans was quite disgusted by Peterson. Yet there are some who would argue that Evans worked within too narrow an emotional range; I might very well say that myself.
  10. Does Oscar Peterson get a bad rap?

    For what it's worth, Peterson even said he was "scared" of Tatum. There is a lot of Peterson I enjoy on Pablo. The label really specialized in throwback jazz, basically in the swing mode. Of course, the artists were mainly the original guys, those who had been doing it for decades--Basie, Zoot Sims, Dizzy, Ray Brown, Roy Eldridge, and of course Oscar. There was no innovation on Pablo. But sometimes you just want joyful and swinging jazz.
  11. Does Oscar Peterson get a bad rap?

    I find him to be a fine player, often an excellent player. I will never understand the blanket categorization of him as overplaying and lacking subtlety. He was occasionally a good composer, as we see in "Wheatland," "Hymn to Freedom," and others. This is subtle creative, beautiful stuff. He's just a hackneyed, full-bore player? Have you not listened to "If You Only Knew" or "A Child is Born"? Sure, his nature was conservative and he did not create great albums like Miles and Coltrane. But how many can do that? I have long considered Oscar Peterson a jazz great.
  12. BFT 189 link and discussion

    So track #9 is "The Moontrane."
  13. BFT 188 REVEAL

    The Roach album can be had at It's vinyl converted into mp3 files.
  14. BFT 189 link and discussion

    I have to to say I've never even HEARD OF Khan Jamal.
  15. BFT 189 link and discussion

    Is "Spartacus" by Maria Schneider? Wow, that tune sounds very close to "Children of the Night."