Swinging Swede

Sorry, I see now that JSngry started a new thread about the same thing while I was writing this post.

Well, May 1 was reached and the text was changed to ”will reopen soon”. But now the text that meets us when we try to access the BNBB has changed again: "The Blue Note Records Bulletin Board is currently closed. While the Blue Note Bulletin Board is closed, have a visit to the All About Jazz Forum or to the JazzCorner.com Speakeasy Forum for your Bulletin Board & Discussion Group enjoyment." What’s up with that? Maybe someone should ask them to include a link to the Organissimo Forums too. After all it is what most closely resembles the old BNBB. I suppose it would be a good way to attract new members as well. Or old BNBB members who don't know that this place exists.

Speaking of Getz and Verve, I see on Verve’s homepage that they have an upcoming Getz release on A&M titled Bossas & Ballads: The Lost Session. Just to confuse us they also say ”reissue release date 9/9/2003”, but I suppose the ’Lost Session’ bit must mean that it is an hitherto unissued session. I see in Lord that Getz made one album for A&M in 1989. Could it be something recorded around that time? Oh, and for those who are craving for more Verve compilations, there are some of those too. Chet for Lovers and Louis for Lovers are just what you were wishing for, right?

Not necessarily. I could have to do with how Getz’s Verve contract was constructed, as opposed to his Columbia contract. Or it could be that Verve's lawyers are more cautios. (Actually I vaguely remember Mark@Verve saying something to the effect that Verve probably had the right to reissue the material, but because the estate was protesting, the Verve lawyers blocked the reissues just for safety's sake.) The Verve problem seems to continue. Verve just reissued Getz’s Reflections as a straight reissue of the original LP. But there are four unissued tracks from the same sessions, which now remain unissued. Reflections was planned as a reissue already some years ago, but never materialized then, in all probability because of the problem with previously unissued material. It’s the same with Sweet Rain. There are three unissued tracks from the same sessions. Sweet Rain was even listed in other reissues as an upcoming release in 1999. What may have happened now is that Verve has resigned and just decided to reissue the Getz albums as straight LP reissues, just to get any Getz out. Expect Sweet Rain without the bonus material soon.

Wait a minute here, folks! Maybe the culprit isn't BLP 1577 after all??

LOL!

Magenta Haze was recorded for Musicraft in 1946, but there are indeed several tunes here that weren't recorded commercially. (Eight according to the liner notes.) Others have different arrangements or soloists than the commercial versions. A good chunk of it also captures the Ellington band at a time when it didn't record commercially (between the last Musicraft recordings in December 1946 and the first Columbia recordings in August 1947). And as ghost said, these are studio transcriptions, not broadcasts. These recordings were also issued in a Japanese 5-CD box replicating the original 5 LPs. That's the set I have! Lots of good music here. Definitely recommended.

Yeah, I first read it as "Kenton's Boogaloo" too! I wonder how that would have sounded?

With the big boxing match coming up tonight it is interesting to note that both Lennox Lewis and Vitaly Klitschko (as well as his brother Vladimir) are avid chess players! Wouldn’t it be great if they stunned the audience by playing a game of chess about the title? The Klitschko brothers playing each other The Klitschko brothers with former World Champion Garry Kasparov Vladimir Klitschko playing the current BGN/EG World Champion Vladimir Kramnik Lewis, when asked about his chances in a chess game against Tyson, laughed and was certain about the outcome: "Oh, I would definitely win. He would eat the pieces and be disqualified."

And then we have US presidential elections, where it is possible to get half a million more votes than the nearest candidate, and still lose!

Here is the June batch: 1305 Nat King Cole 1949-1950 1306 Red Norvo 1943-1944 1307 Budd Johnson 1944-1952 1308 Hazel Scott 1939-1945 1309 Charlie Ventura 1949-1951 Blues & Rhythm series: 5063 Joe Liggins 1946-1948 5064 Saunders King 1942-1948 Nice to see a CD devoted to Budd Johnson. I’m not sure what it will include though, since his leader sessions, according to Lord, aren’t nearly enough to make up a full CD.

Did they say that it was on Classics Records? Must be this then: One of the tunes is called Cook That Stuff, and might be the one you heard. I intend to pick up this one myself one day.

United Artists actually. My copy is on Blue Note, CDP 7 46393. Money Jungle on Blue Note here. But that’s the CD reissue, 7/4. The original album was recorded for and released on United Artists long before the United Artists and Blue Note recordings even came under the same corporate umbrella.

That CD Universe listing is completely messed up. Fortunately this is not actually the strings album (which was reissued on a twofer a few years ago), but the octet album (MG 36043) that was his debut album for EmArcy. It has not been on CD before, at least not in the US. Now only In The Land Of Hi-Fi remains. Strange to see Konitz’s Motion again. It must be its third release on CD in the US. By the way, did anyone notice that Verve changed one title in this batch? They originally announced Pepper Adams Plays the Compositions of Charles Mingus as being part of this batch, but they have since replaced it with John Klemmer’s Involvement.

United Artists actually.

Sorry for diverting the thread for a moment, but Rooster Ties was actually right about this. Duke Ellington did not record for Blue Note.

Chuck, I’m afraid the Euro copyright already has run out. Speaking of that, is there any country in the world that has more than 50 years of copyright in sound recordings, except the US? Unfortunately the Delmark label isn’t distributed in Sweden, so there is no easy way to get its releases. I wasn’t even aware of this particular title, but now it goes onto the ever increasing list of CDs to look out for. I was going to say that it anyway would be interesting if Classics reissued Paul Bascomb’s pre-Delmark recordings, but now it turns out that the Classics CD actually is a combined Dud/Paul release. I also now believe that it is part of the Blues & Rhythm series. I have updated the list above with the complete and I hope correct titles (added Goodman and Hibbler).

And here are some more titles, to be released in May: 1300 Al Hibbler 1950-1952 1301 Jimmy Jones 1946-1947 1302 Mezz Mezzrow 1947-1951 1303 Benny Goodman 1941-1942 1304 Woody Herman 1940-1941 Blues & Rhythm series: 5060 Fats Domino 1951-1952 5061 Dud Bascomb/Paul Bascomb 1945-1947 5062 Jimmy McCracklin 1945-1948 Dud Bascomb was a fine trumpeter, mostly known for the many years he spent in the Erskine Hawkins orchestra, where he actually was a featured soloist, despite playing the same instrument as the leader. He also was in Ellington’s band for a while. These recordings include his tenor-playing brother Paul Bascomb, who also had played in the Hawkins band (and who also recorded under his own name – maybe we will see those recordings on Classics in the future too?). [Addendum: This title actually includes Paul Bascomb-led sessions as well.] Jimmy Jones is the harmonically interesting pianist, who mostly appeared as a sideman with many famous names. Both the Bascomb and the Jones recordings will be new to me, and should be interesting. The Woody Herman series, while still in the Band That Plays The Blues era, is slowly approaching the First Herd era…

Daniel, Thanks for saving and posting that! Reading through it brings back a lot of memories from the board’s early days… Bev, I think you may be referring to a thread I think was called ”Where to start in Swing?” (which was intended as a follow-up to a similarly titled thread about pre-Swing recommendations, on which I posted too), where I made a long post about black big bands during the Swing era. I originally intended to follow it up with a post about white big bands, and one about small groups, although those later installments for various reasons never were finished (at least not yet!). I probably have it saved somewhere on the computer. It should also be on the Internet Archive site, if one just knows approximately when it was posted (since there is no text search). I’ll see if I can dig it up. And thanks for remembering it! I certainly had a lot more time on my hands back then (sigh) … Brad, If Classics starts a Blakey series, the first volume should be 1947-1954. It could come out in 2005.

Grant Green's The Final Comedown is part of this series too.

You’ll love this! Remember Aric’s Hank Mobley Discography site that got hacked and was presumed lost? Well, it turns out it has been archived too! Aric’s Hank Mobley Discography Website

Remember when the BNBB looked like this? Blue Note Bulletin Boards (old colour scheme)

And here is that ultimate of jazz discussion boards: Kenny G Bulletin Board

By an amazing coincidence Verve has relaunched its board today too! You know, the one where questions and feedback for Verve shouldn’t be posted in the forum titled ”Questions and Feedback for Verve”, but in the one titled ”Reissue Lounge”… Verve Music Group Boards

And all the forums are restored too! Blue Note Bulletin Boards