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I've always thought of Shorty more as an arranger than a trumpet player, but listening to his early 50s collaborations with Teddy Charles, I find his playing kind of interesting. He seems most comfortable in the mid and lower register and his ideas sometimes outpace his technical facility, but all the more interesting for that. Are the Shorty Rogers Collectables releases in good sound?

Ratliff has a keen sense of Coltrane's constantly changing sound, highlighting the collaborative nature of jazz by discussing the bands he played in as both sideman and leader. (One of the more intriguing asides is a suggestion that Coltrane's alleged LSD use might have inclined him toward a more cooperative mode of performance I don't want to be too quick too judge this opinion, since I haven't seen the book, but on the surface it seems far fetched to link LSD to an artistic decision toward "a more cooperative mode of performance." Am I missing something? I didn't even know Trane was linked to lsd. Is 'cooperative mode of performance' referring to Trane's late period?

I certainly would not start an exploration of the Swingville series with that one . It's a rather dull , uninspired record . A far better starting point is Budd Johnson's Let's Swing , with positively magisterial playing by Budd , and a fine supporting cast . Edit : Someone should go here and grab the Hal Singer for $4.99 . Grabbed that at the Harvard Square Newbury Comics a while back. Nice one. Their internet service is first rate as well. I visited there today and ended up buying 15 OJCs at fire sale prices, including the Swingville Coleman Hawkins All Stars. I'm looking forward to giving it a first spin. That Swingville Coleman Hawkins All Stars is a nice pick-up. I always love to hear Vic Dickenson..Hawk is interesting as always, and the recorded sound is excellent. StereoJack mentioned the Red Allen in an earlier post..it's one of my favorites too. It can be found (though not easily anymore) on a two-fer ( Hot Trumpets Of Joe Newman & Henry Red Allen)

This strikes me as simply more delusional thinking by the suits. Kids (the 'consumers' the music industry craves) aren't going to pay for music anymore. The product is disposable, superficial, and faddish--in other words, worthless.

Mangione actually did some of his best work with Blakey.. Ever listen to "Buttercorn Lady"? Yes,, and that's not my point. Put another way, how many of us would list Chuck Mangione and Wynton Marsalis in the top ten of Art Blakey sidemen? I think the first ones to spring to my mind would be Benny Golson, Wayne Shorter, Lee Morgan, Hank Mobley and Curtis Fuller. But so many played with the Jazz Messengers...even Jackie McLean was with Blakey for a little while. Have to admit, though, that Mangione and Marsalis are probably the names most well known by the general public. Agreed. 90% of the general public have never heard the names of Golson, Shorter, Morgan, Mobley, etc. Hell, maybe 95% or better... In the U.S., try 99.9 %. 99.9 % of people (including Pittsburgh folks) couldn't tell you who Art Blakey is. I grew up in the Pitt area in the 70s--the only jazzer I ever heard of was Joe Negri. Many years later, and far from PA, I began discovering the astonishing number of jazz greats who grew up in Pittsburgh. Prophets are rarely recognized in their home town, as the saying goes.

Has the Tyner session been out before? That's the one out of the Keepnews batch that interests me.

Released Sept 11. (apologies if these have been mentioned elsewhere) clark terry seranade to a bus seat george russell ezz thetics mccoy tyner horizon sonny rollins sound of sonny monk at town hall Other upcoming reissues concord upcoming releases

Sonny Fortune has a new release--looking forward to it, the samples sound great. Sounny Fortune--You and the Night...

edc decrees this an embarrassment to all involved, tho' Moms deserved the props; maybe a rabbit pot pie MG? NOW we're gettin' to the other meat of the matter which is if we listen above grade-school level & consider so-called "swing" MORE-- lots more, in fact-- than a variable set of rhythmic relations... which on one level it is but on others... it ain't nearly enough. i'll take ya'll to a Brooklyn textile sweatshop if you wanna see a whole factory floor of Singers "swingin'"-- ain't a big deal, really. Isn't an organic, meaningful 'swing' pretty rare among most musicians born post-beatles. There aren't enough drummers willing or capable of bringing it?

There's some good Budd Johnson on this Earl Hines CD (also featuring Jimmy Rushing and recorded by RVG in the 60s). The rhythm section (bass/drum,not hines) holds this session back a little, imo, but still plenty of good music.

Alexander has a new CD coming out next week (8/28)...I don't listen to many of the contemporary mainstream tenors, but I've grown to like Eric Alexander's music quite a lot. The usual suspects: Farnsworth, Hazeltine, Rotondi etc. press release hype Temple Of Olympic Zeus Alexander, Eric Tenor saxman Eric Alexander has more than lived up to his Young Lion hype, with his amazing 18 recordings as leader only reinforcing what has been clear from his work of the past decade: Alexander is one of the leading talents of modern tenor saxophone. Eric and his working band explore a wealth of material, finding treasures and mining each gem without getting tedious, varying his strategies from fluttering wisps, meaty arpeggios, and evocative swirls. Eric Alexander Temple of OlympicZeus

up....I've been listening to the Shelly Manne/Shorty Rogers session. WOW Fantastic music. It's hard to avoid comparing this, at least superficially, with some Hutcherson recordings made 10-15 years later. The Charles music sounds amazingly contemporary, elements of modal jazz, atonality. And Manne manages to swing like mad.

I recently found the Touff at a pretty good price--very nice session! It seems almost the perfect synthesis of Basie swing/looseness with the lightness of the West Coast aesthetic. Highly recommended.

Thanks. I see both of the Caverns sessions are oop. yikes, it's impossible to keep up

I'm on the same page with Chuck. Last order was a lot of George Lewis. Do any of those George Lewis dates stand out Lon? Hard for me to judge which, if any , is essential. I enjoy the Atlantic and Blue Note George Lewis sessions, I've been meaning to pick up one of the OJCs. Now's the time I guess.

Just starting: Ross Macdonald--Ivory Grin. Mulligan/Baker (Lullaby of the Leaves) make a nice background while reading this ...early 50s LA detective story. Great stuff!

Reading through this thread, I never realized how many sessions Spaulding is on that I count among my favorites. I'd add 'SLice of the top' to the Blue Notes. Clem alluded to David Murray--I really like "Octet Plays Trane'.

My approach has been similiar to Chuck's. My most recent small purchase was picking up Blue Mitchell's 'Sure thing" and Clifford Jordan's 'Mosaic'. Some other small ojc purchases (looking at my purchase history over the last 6 months from amazon) include: McPherson's Mood [Limited Edition] [Audio CD] Charles Mcpherson (a very nice session, nice to hear Buster Williams) Long Night/March of the Siamese Children [Audio CD] Strozier, Frank Workin' Out [Audio CD] Timmons, Bobby Swinging Sounds [Audio CD] Shelly Manne & His Men (still ambivalent about this one) The Freelance Years: The Complete Riverside and Contemporary Recordings: Sonny Rollins (pretty good deal,30 bucks, considering I didn't hav WOW, Freedom Suite, and one or two sessions on this set) Music to Listen to Don Ewell By [Audio CD] Ewell, Don (good music, good sound too) Far Cry (20 Bit Mastering) Eric Dolphy (I love Dolphy more and more every time I hear him) Guitar Groove [Audio CD] Thomas, Rene (outstanding!)

Thanks for the recommendation. I just ordered a copy of this, it is yet another victim of the concord purge so, carpe diem

'Rockin' Chair' from the Town Hall concert is one of my favorite Pops moments. Tea and Pops were such a wonderful pairing.

Funny you should mention Cobb, I was listening to 'Teo' from the Carnegie Hall album and it's interesting to hear how Cobb plays very differently behind Miles and then Mobley. For Miles it's all cymbals and light rim shots--a pretty light approach altogether which gives Miles a lot of space. When Mobley comes in around the 3:30 mark Cobb switches from the rim to the snare and sounds a lot more aggressive (around 3:42, for instance he seems to almost pound the snare at one point). It felt to me, as I was listening, that Cobb was kind of overwhelming behind Mobley during the performance.

My pleasure. Based on the number of artists on the complilation, it seems Norman Granz probably taped most of the '57 Festival. Everything from Cecil Taylor to Turk Murphy. I wonder how much is in the vaults.

Looks like Verve is reissuing a few CDs to commemorate the the 50th anniversary of the Newport festival. (note that the Basie and Gillespie are just repackaged issues of material that is already out...i think the ella et al has been out too). apologies if this has been noted elsewhere Coleman Hawkins at Newport Ella, Billie, Carmen at Newport Oscar Peterson / Eldridge and Stitt Basie at Newport Dizzy at Newport interesting 2 CD collection of Newport performances

I just gave this a spin ..thanks for the reminder! Some great PG