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Well maybe I'm the one who should buy an ad here then....
Thanks for posting this Lazaro, I'm taking a break from writing the arrangements as we speak. Tunes done so far The All Seeing Eye, Genesis, Pandora Awakened, Diana, Mr. Jin. Up next Prometheus Unbound and Angola and perhaps Elegant People or Lusitanos, then who knows. I'd love to make this a regular Wednesday night engagement, I think it could be a good thing. Of course, all of your support would be greatly appreciated.
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This is the first of what I hope is many weekends with similar themes I have put together for the club. The whole weekend is
April 6 & 7 JOE CHAMBERS QUINTET
Joe Chambers- Drums, Javon Jackson- Tenor Sax, Vincent Herring- Alto Sax, Joanne Brackeen- Piano
Dwayne Burno- Bass
April 8-9 GRACHAN MONCUR SEXTET
Grachan Moncur III – Trombone, Billy Harper - Tenor Sax, Michael Blake- Alto Sax, John Hicks - Piano
Calvin Hill – Bass, Richard Pearson - Drums
Please support these, show that there is still an audience for these great musicians and perhaps I'll get to put together a few more. Thanks.
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Eastern Rebellion 5/4 Thing is December 10, 1975
New Jazz Composers Octet A Little Twist is October 18, 2000, I'm pretty sure of this, I don't have a copy of my own CD but I think we recorded this tune separate from the rest of the record while recording part of the album we did wih Freddie Hubbard. We had a little extra studio time and Joe Chambers in the studio who played the tune with us on the road so we went for it. The Freddie CD says the recording date is October 18, 2000 and I think this isn't even mentioned on the octet CD but I don't know for sure because like I said, I don't have a copy at the moment.
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I'd have to agree with Rollins, Grimes and LaRoca but the one I've always wanted to see was "It's Time" Jackie McLean, Charles Tolliver, Herbie Hancock, Cecil McBee and Roy Haynes. Roy Haynes came to hear the Tolliver big band (with McBee on Bass) a while back and I remember thinking OK, three out of five but that's probably as close as it would get. "The All Seeing Eye" is still possible I guess except for the track with Alan Shorter.
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David, can you share anything about the bonus material that might be released on/with Paper Man?? (meaning the quintet date with Herbie). Alternates?? Or extra tunes?? Or both?? How much extra material (time-wise) might there end up being added??
Also good to hear that the two Big Band dates might be reissued again someday (sooner than later, hopefully).
It's both. The extra tune is Repetition (6:18) and there's an alternate take of it as well (6:22).
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David:Did you grow up in Berkeley? Berkeley High?
No, I'm actually from New York, born and raised in Queens. I've had a lot of associates though who went to Berkeley High, they've really produced a great number of fine musicians there, like Craig Handy and Benny Green.
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Impact on Enja is a live date recorded at the Jazzclub Domicile in Munich on March 23. 1972. I haven't listened to it in a while but I remember it being a great date. It had lead sheets to Impact and Prayer for Peace on the back cover which I found very useful at the time. As for which Impact Towers carries, I guess it can go either way. Chances are Enja would have this out on CD and at this point the Strata-East Impact is out of print though I guess there might still be copies of the Charly issue of this still floating around (the licence expired a few years ago). We hope to have both big band CDs and the quintet date with Hancock et all (with bonus tracks) in print soon (and yes, I know you've heard that before but we are really working on it).
Does "soon" mean 2006 ?
Well, yes, ideally, we are trying but you never know for sure......I do understand your skepticism but all I can do is insure you a real effort is being made to get this stuff out, hopefully sooner than later.
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I've read Freddie went to some of the best embouchure / endurance specialist teachers in the world in an effort to regain his chops, but to no avail.
This isn't true at all. He's talked to a few but has never sat down with anyone
I wonder when someone does the Freddie bio if he'll reveal all. There are a lot of crazy rumours out there. But like I said, I think it was long-term physical deterioration. I mean, look at Diz in the 40s and then the 50s. His chops basically self-destructed in 10 years. Sure, he learned how to play a different style, but when you listen to his tone in the 50s you can hardly believe it's the same player.
Yes, well put. I absolutely agree that most of the problem is long-term physical deterioration though of course there were other factors as well. I've said this many times. There wasn't a trumpeter who played longer, harder, faster and higher than Freddie so there really is no other example of how that much playing over such a long period of time can have on a trumpet player. I doubt anyone would have lasted as long. Freddie still has some very good nights though. Even at his best these days, it's a long way from what it was but I'd still rather listen to that than most trumpet players out here now. The phrasing and the complexity of the lines can still be astounding at times. My only hope as we continue to work together is that he gets more consistent with what he has left. That should be more than enough for most of us. Freddie did some tours with Dizzy toward the end of his life and Freddie said there were nights when he could hardly play but every once in a while he could still bring it and it was a joy to hear.
But more than once I saw him walk on stage after the head (allegedly with no warm up) and pop a double-C to start .... not too smart.
Yes, this kind of thing probably didn't help much. Part of the problem was the his schedule would be so tight sometimes that he would literally step off a plane onto a stage at times and didn't have time to warm up. He definitely was over-worked and it caught up with him.
As for Gleam, it's a mix of the best and worst of his Columbia years but it's well worth seeking out. The tunes are Put it in the Pocket, Ebony Moonbeams, Betcha By Golly Wow, Spirits of Trane, Kuntu, Midnight at the Oasis and Too High. I love most of it but as with Night of the Cookers, perhaps the percussion solos are a bit long at times.
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Impact on Enja is a live date recorded at the Jazzclub Domicile in Munich on March 23. 1972. I haven't listened to it in a while but I remember it being a great date. It had lead sheets to Impact and Prayer for Peace on the back cover which I found very useful at the time. As for which Impact Towers carries, I guess it can go either way. Chances are Enja would have this out on CD and at this point the Strata-East Impact is out of print though I guess there might still be copies of the Charly issue of this still floating around (the licence expired a few years ago). We hope to have both big band CDs and the quintet date with Hancock et all (with bonus tracks) in print soon (and yes, I know you've heard that before but we are really working on it).
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Pretty heavy week for music here even by New York standards. Here's the details for the Tolliver gig for those who are interested. Hope you can make it.
The Charles Tolliver Big Band
Charles Tolliver - Trumpet
Billy Harper and Bill Saxton - Tenor sax
Craig Handy and Todd Bashore - Alto sax
Howard Johnson - Baritone sax
David Guy, David Weiss, Chris Albert, Jimmy Owens- Trumpet
Clark Gayton, Stafford Hunter, Aaron Johnson- Trombone
John Hicks - Piano
Cecil McBee - Bass
Victor Lewis - Drums
Wednesday, January 25 through Saturday January 28
at
Birdland
315 West 44th Street (between 8th and 9th Aves)
212-581-3080
Sets Nightly at 9:00 and 11:00 pm
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I remember about three years ago or so driving to Boston with Freddie for a gig and listening to Super Blue and High Energy to proof the new masters for Sony. Super Blue had three bonus tracks (Super Blue, Theme for Kareem and Take it to the Ozone) that were killing. Super Blue is probably his best all around date for Columbia and kind of an all around great record. High Energy has it moments too. Freddie always loved a Love Connection which I can't seem to muster the same affection for. Gleam I haven't listened to in a while but remember it being a very solid live date. All the Columbia dates have something of merit on them though some certainly more than others. Sony slated Super Blue and High Energy for release but it never happenend. They have been remastered and are ready to go but I don't know if they will ever see the light of day.
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I've been hearing bits of the new GW on KNTU this week, and although the writing is the usual excellent stuff and the soloing is fine, there's a disconcerting ensemble blend that results in the band sounding more like a college lab band than an aggregation of seasoned players.
Maybe it's the recording quality, which is very "naked". I don't know. But ensemble sound, the blend of each section's unique tonal personalities, both individually and collectively, is one of the most critical elements of making a big band work for me.
I dunno - is section playing at the level beyond just phrasing together and playing in tune becoming a lost art? Sure seems that way more often than not...
Jim, I'm not sure I was told this about this CD or the one before it (is this the only one with NY musicians or was the one before this one with NY musicians as well) because I was told this a while ago but there wasn't alot of rehearsal time and they only had one day in the studio to record everything. A few guys walked away wishing they had more time with the material. I've liked what I heard regardless but I know the feeling of being rushed through some stuff because time is limited in the studio, always a frustrating experience.
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He moved to Paris perhaps as long as 10 years ago and rarely seems to come to the States anymore. I saw him in Cork this past weekend as we used him for our The Night of the Cookers gig there (Billy Harper, Charles Tolliver, Craig Handy, myself, Kirk, Doug Weiss, also on loan, from Al Foster's band and Eric Harland). He was in great form and great spirits and is also a very energetic and uplifting presence on stage. He's been touring the UK the last couple of weeks with the band he was with at Cork. They really don't come much nicer than him and what a player. He did a CD under his own name with Freddie Hubbard guesting on it in the early 90's I believe, seek that one out, it's killing.
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I believe I have located the source of some of these alternative takes. A Time 12" LP included the following:
Clifford Brown: The Boss Man [actually incomplete alt. of Caravan]
Kenny Dorham: A Waltz
Tommy Turrentine: Gunga Din
Booker Little: Variations On The Scene
Clifford Brown: Clifford's Fantasy [actually incomplete alt. of Sweet Clifford]
Booker Little: Gondolfo's Bounce [Gandolfo's Bounce]
I can't audition it - anyone got "Volume 8" by Clifford Brown - Kenny Dorham - Booker Little - Tommy Turrentine?
I'm especially interested to know if ALL these are alternatives (Gunga Din, Variations On The Scene), which would mean more previously unknown stuff, right?
Mike
It is what I remembered....no alternate takes at all. I guess I kept it for the Clifford Brown solos, any ideas as to where they are taken from?
Edit: They're on the Clifford Brown Emarcy Box Set, I had the record (for the Clifford solos) long before the box set came out. I guess I don't need the record anymore.
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Just a little heads up for you guys...
The Charles Tolliver Big Band will be at the Jazz Standard in New York this week
October 19-23
Charles Tolliver - trumpet
Todd Bashore- alto sax
Billy Harper - tenor sax
Craig Handy - alto & tenor sax
Bill Saxton - tenor sax
Howard Johnson - baritone sax
Chris Albert - trumpet
David Guy - trumpet
David Weiss - trumpet
Keyon Harrold - trumpet
Clark Gayton- trombone
Joe Fiedler - trombone
Aaron Johnson - trombone
John Hicks - piano
Cecil McBee - bass
Greg Hutchinson - drums
Hope you can make it, it really is an incredible experience and as I've probably said a million times by now, one of the heaviest, most intense projects I've ever been involved in.
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I believe I have located the source of some of these alternative takes. A Time 12" LP included the following:
Clifford Brown: The Boss Man [actually incomplete alt. of Caravan]
Kenny Dorham: A Waltz
Tommy Turrentine: Gunga Din
Booker Little: Variations On The Scene
Clifford Brown: Clifford's Fantasy [actually incomplete alt. of Sweet Clifford]
Booker Little: Gondolfo's Bounce [Gandolfo's Bounce]
I can't audition it - anyone got "Volume 8" by Clifford Brown - Kenny Dorham - Booker Little - Tommy Turrentine?
I'm especially interested to know if ALL these are alternatives (Gunga Din, Variations On The Scene), which would mean more previously unknown stuff, right?
Mike
I have this record, I don't think they are all alternate takes. When I have a moment I'll A/B them all.
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first off...
LET'SGOWHITE SOX!!!!!!!
That said, I haven't seen much of the Cardinals/Astros series, but from what I have seen, both of those teams are champs.
I think if we end up facing the Astros, it's gonna be a whole lot of 2-1, 1-0, 3-2 kinda games.
That will make for some excellent baseball.
And, by the way, what is it with East coast assholes? The guy from the Miami Herald who said that no one in America should root for the white sox because we play second fiddle to the cubs in Chicago should be bitch slapped. The guy obviously doesn't get the dynamic here. People root for the Cubs because it's trendy and cubs games are parties, not baseball games. I've talked to people that went to Cubs games and didn't even know the freakin' score! The south side is all about baseball though. Those fans are the most die-hard that I've ever seen. The White Sox deserve this one. They've earned it all season. Even if they don't win it all, it'll still be a beautiful season for the Sox, and for all of Chicago. Even the north siders will have to learn to be happy with the fact that CHICAGO finally took home a trophy. If we're lucky enough to bring home a world series trophy, and not just an AL trophy, that'll be even sweeter.
Don't worry, there's room enough on the bandwagon for everyone. Feel free to jump on.
Got to give it up to you for predicting the Whitesox would go to the series. The problem these days seems to be everyone makes predictions based on the last game that was played, not looking at an overall picture. The Whitesoxs really didn't cool down that much, the Indians got ridiculously hot and stayed hotter longer than anyone thought but you knew they were going to cool down eventually. Pitching wins in the postseason and the Whitesoxs had the best pitching. Even with that though, the best two teams still going are the Astros and the Cardinals. It's been a great series and again the team with the best pitching will prevail. How are the Cardinals going to come back looking at Pettite, Oswalt and Clemons three games in a row. The best game I've seen this playoffs was the game Oswalt pitched against the Cards, he had electric stuff.
Did anyone else notice what a great commentator Lou Pinella was, he made the game a lot more interesting to watch.
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As far as I know, all the masters have reverted back to the artists but for perhaps one or two exceptions. I thought the Dolphy series was one of those exceptions. As for the Tolliver date with Bartz, Hancock, Carter and Chambers, that was only licensed to Black Lion and is now owned by Tolliver. It has been prepared for re-issue, with two bonus tracks (two versions of "Repetition") and will probably come out within the next year......negotiations are in progress....
PLEASE tell what you know and from which sources.
It should be obvious who my sources are and I've told what I know....as things progress and I'll keep you guys posted.
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I have the Strozier single CD, I'm just missing 6 alternates.
I'm kind of sorry I didn't get the Kelly Mosaic, but I only have so much money.
Lon, do you have We Insist on CD? Can you tell if it was remastered from vinyl?
Bertrand.
I think the strozier with the bonus tracks is also a single CD at least one version (the Koch) the Japanese version is a 2 CD set I believe
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As far as I know, all the masters have reverted back to the artists but for perhaps one or two exceptions. I thought the Dolphy series was one of those exceptions. As for the Tolliver date with Bartz, Hancock, Carter and Chambers, that was only licensed to Black Lion and is now owned by Tolliver. It has been prepared for re-issue, with two bonus tracks (two versions of "Repetition") and will probably come out within the next year......negotiations are in progress....
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David,
I did hear some similarities between the two compositions, but I wouldn't call them the same. Your description sounds about right, but I've only listened to 'Cliff Walk' once so far. Great track - the two drummers really make this special.
I am trying to load the entire Booker Little discography into my iPod. I am using the discography listed above as my reference point, although I am not trying to track down the private tapes (at least for now
)I am missing:
1. The Bill Henderson stuff.
2. 6 alternates from the Strozier date which were on the Mosaic set but not my Vee-Jay CD from the early 90s.
3. The alternate of 'Strength And Sanity' from the Japanese CD (I have the Candid Dolphy, but in a stupid Prevue pressing, which I bought under the mistaken impression the other was OOP).
4. 'Stardust' from the Teddy Charles date. This one is not on the Fresh Sound CD, but is on some other CD (Lonehill or something). Why did Jordi leave it out?
Items 3 and 4 will be the most elusive.
Tragic that the output of such a genius can be stored in a gig or so on an iPod.
Mike,
I'm 99% sure I have the booklet below in the collection at LoC. Interesting that both tunes were copyrighted in the same booklet. I'll dig it up next time I'm there. Was this originally owned by one of Gryce's companies?
Bertrand.
1. Registration Number: RE-457-508
Title: Booker's blues. Victory and sorrow. Cliff walk. Looking
ahead. By Booker Little.
In: Modern melody booklet
Claimant: LaRue C. Little-Colon ©
Effective Registration Date: 29Dec89
Original Registration Date: 25Jan61;
Original Registration Number: EU655414.
Original Class: E
Cross Reference: cLaRue C. Little- Colon. SEE LaRue C. Little-Colon.
Thought I should have mentioned the Henderson before as I suspected that was one of the one's you would have questions about. I don't know if the CD have bonus tracks as most Vee Jays do but on the LP Booker solos on only one track, a single chorus of G blues on "This Little Girl of Mine".
I have the Japanese version of Out Front with the "Strength and Sanity" alternate. Got lucky and found it in a used CD shop in Osaka.
I have the Teddy Charles date on a Fresh Sound LP. I thought even the LP had an extra track on it. I have no idea why Jordi left Stardust off the CD, I have no idea about anything Jordi does anymore. It doesn't seem like it was for space considerations. You're not missing much though, Booker plays part of the head but doesn't solo.
Get the Strozier stuff, I thought I had it on a single CD before the box came out so you can probably find it somewhere.
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These tunes are also listed as equivalent in the composition list appendix to Keith Waters and David Diamond's article "Out Front: The Art of Booker Little" in Annual Review of Jazz Studies 11.
However, I'm pretty sure that I got the information when I translated Jonathan Kutler's discography of Don Friedman into the database. At that point I don't think I owned Newport Rebels, but I now have a copy (where exactly, is the question) and should be able to listen.
Do you have the deposits?
Mike
Well not the same tune though there are 2 motifs in "Cliff Walk" used in "Looking Ahead". I'm assuming "Looking Ahead" is later but it would even be a stretch to call "Looking Ahead" a more finely tuned version of "Cliff Walk". There's a lot of writing in "Cliff Walk" that's not on "Looking Ahead".
Bertand,
If you're trying to be a completist (which I am with Booker) your greatest difficulty might be getting everything from "Out Front", you need to get "Candid Dolphy" for two alternate takes and an older Japanese version of "Out Front" for another alternate.
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Yes..caught me while editing...
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Hot Horn on Everest
Intrepid Fox 20:00
Yesterday 9:42
Pensativa 18:27
Extended on Phoenix
Red Clay 16:53
Freddie's Tune 18:42
Freddie's tune is a Cedar Walton tune whose name escapes me at the moment but it's on the Lee Morgan album "Sixth Sense". Both records list the same personel Cedar Walton on piano Billy Hayes on Drums.
Edit: The tune is called Afreaka and it's probably Louis Hayes on Drums. "Yesterday" is the Beatles tune played trio by Cedar.
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