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I heard him interviewed once and he talked about how he had been influenced by Charles Brown.
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48 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said:
Now disc 1 of
That has a couple of cuts that I think are not found anywhere else: the rehearsals of "Ebony Rhapsody". Don't think they're even on Ellington in Order.
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3 hours ago, Niko said:
On Spotify, you could do just that provided that everything you need is on there... (I guess it's the same on other services)
So you could do that with the Decca Ellingtons since Early Ellington seems to be there. I think they also have some grey area European issues that might have some of the Pathes etc.
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That would be great but a lot of important Basie is not on Columbia or RCA ( though a lot is). Is it possible on any of the streaming services to make a public playlist that takes from the existing ones and adds to them?
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RLR
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4 hours ago, bresna said:You are right on that. The 95 year expiration is just for video recordings. I was blinded by Steamboat Willie's recent appearance in the PD.
And I think for just about everything else (books, films, etc) except sound recordings.
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RLR
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1 hour ago, bresna said:Pre-1962 is still bootleg in the US, but public domain in the EU. US PD is currently sitting at 1928.
This seems to suggest that it's sitting at 1923 for recordings: https://ask.loc.gov/recorded-sound/faq/313179
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I should probably let this thread die, but I finally read the article. Except for the "Worst Masterpiece " line I don't think it's that controversial. A couple of points:
RIB was not well received by "serious" music critics. (Google "initial critical reception of RIB)" and the criticism is quite similar to that EKE got for Black, Brown and Beige.
Iverson criticizes it for its lack of jazz chops-- was it advertised as jazz? Probably it was. I've always thought Ellington really resented Gershwin doing both a "jazz" symphony and a "jazz" opera before he could.
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3 hours ago, T.D. said:
@randyhersom: of course I'm very fond of this one, Youtube link
By about 45 seconds in it's kind of a gimme, but I always enjoy hearing this soloist (not the leader here).
This record, which I got when it was first released, was the first time I ever heard this tune. Shortly after it seemed to be being sung everywhere. Maybe it was already a standard and I just didn't know about it.
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Serious question: What does "masterpiece" mean? From the dictionary I get that it's the best piece of one person OR a great piece of work regardless of who created it. I like Gershwin but does anyone really call RIB his greatest piece of work?
As to posterity: In 100 years no one will remember anyone of us on this board or Ethan Iverson, but I think they will remember Gershwin. ( I could be wrong-- I often am.)
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I suspect that Spotify and other streamers, even though they don 't pay much per play now account for more income to performers than cd sales. (I'm just guessing. Happy to hear from anyone who actually knows.)
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On 1/26/2024 at 12:26 AM, miles65 said:
Here is the list of Pathé/Plaza recordings.
The Plaza group issued records on various labels (no claim to be complete): Cameo Romeo, Perfect, Banner, Oriole, Regal.
MoJ = masters of jazz volume, track number, Cl = classics, track number, N = Neatwork volume, track number, COL 2LP = French CBS complete Duke Ellington 2 LP sets volume and Lp 1 or 2 (track info not included).
I copied this from my excel file hence those lines. 10357-3 Rockin' Chair has never been reissued.
There has been no official reissue of these recordings since the French 2LP sets.
date
Matrix
DESOR
title
MoJ
CL
N
COL 2 LP
11-09-25
106250
DE2501a
I'm gonna hang around my sugar
1
9
24-27
3
1
1
11-09-25
106251
DE2501b
Trombone blues
1
10
24-27
4
1
1
18-03-26
106729
DE2601a
Georgia grind
1
11
24-27
5
1
1
18-03-26
106730
DE2601b
Parlor social stomp
1
12
24-27
6
1
1
08-03-28
2944-A
DE2803a
East St. Louis toodle-oo
3
19
27-28
20
1
13
1
2
08-03-28
108079-1
DE2803b
East St. Louis toodle-oo
3
20
1
2
08-03-28
108080-1
DE2803c
Jubilee stomp
3
21
1
14
1
2
08-03-28
2945-B
DE2803d
Jubilee stomp
3
22
27-28
21
1
2
08-03-28
108081-1
DE2803e
Take it easy
3
23
1
15
1
2
08-03-28
2946-B
DE2803f
Take it easy
3
24
27-28
22
1
2
19-10-28
108446-1
DE2811a
The mooche
4
17
1
17
1
2
19-10-28
108446-2
DE2811b
The mooche
4
18
28
14
2
1
19-10-28
108447-2
DE2811c
Hot and botherd
4
19
28
15
1
2
19-10-28
108448-1
DE2811d
Move over
4
20
28
16
2
1
05-12-28
108532-3
DE2817a
Hottentot
5
15
28-29
11
2
1
05-12-28
108533-3
DE2817b
Misty morning
5
16
28-29
12
2
1
12-12-28
3532-B
DE2818a
Hit me in the nose blues
5
17
28-29
8
2
1
12-12-28
3533-B
DE2818b
It's all coming home to you
5
18
28-29
9
2
1
15-03-29
3713-C
DE2906a
Saratoga swing
6
21
29
7
2
1
15-03-29
3714-A
DE2906b
Who said it's thight like that
6
22
29
8
2
1
15-03-29
3715-B
DE2906c
He just don't appeal to me
6
23
29
9
2
1
10-09-29
4062-A
DE2914a
Doin' the voom voom
8
1
29-30
3
2
2
10-09-29
4063-B
DE2914b
Flamin' youth
8
2
29-30
4
2
2
10-09-29
4064-B
DE2914c
Saterday night function
8
3
29-30
5
2
2
29-01-30
9319-1
DE3001a
St. James Infirmary
9
5
29-30
24
2
2
29-01-30
9319-2
DE3001b
St. James Infirmary
9
6
2
1
2
2
29-01-30
9319-3
DE3001c
St. James Infirmary
9
7
2
2
29-01-30
9320-1
DE3001d
When you're smiling
9
8
2
3
2
2
29-01-30
9320-3
DE3001e
When you're smiling
9
9
30
1
2
2
29-01-30
9321-1
DE3001f
Rent party blues
9
10
2
4
2
2
29-01-30
9321-2
DE3001g
Rent party blues
9
11
2
5
29-01-30
9321-3
DE3001h
Rent party blues
9
12
30
2
2
2
29-01-30
9322-1
DE3001i
Jungle blues
9
13
2
6
3
1
29-01-30
9322-2
DE3001j
Jungle blues
9
14
30
3
3
1
10-01-31
10356-1
DE3101a
Them there eyes
12
19
2
20
3
2
10-01-31
10356-2
DE3101b
Them there eyes
12
20
30-31
11
3
2
10-01-31
10356-3
DE3101c
Them there eyes
12
21
2
21
3
2
10-01-31
10357-1
DE3101d
Rockin' chair
12
22
30-31
12
10-01-31
10357-2
DE3101e
Rockin' chair
12
23
2
22
3
2
10-01-31
10357-3
DE3101f
Rockin' chair
10-01-31
10357-4
DE3101g
Rockin' chair
12
24
2
23
3
2
10-01-31
10359-3
DE3101g
I'm so in love with you
30-31
13
3
2
Some of these were on various Naxos cds but I think they no longer distribute into the US.
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This is a really interesting interview with Connelly in which he explains that he got into jazz as part of his research for Bosch. Also about Frank Morgan.
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Got it from Rhino and really had fun listening to it a couple of times. I only have surround speakers in back with large floor speakers and subwoofer in front, so I think it would be even better if you had four equally sized (large) speakers. Fortunately, with the exception of one Howard Johnson tuba solo, most low sounding instruments were in the front speakers .
You generally feel as if you're in the middle of the musicians facing the the rhythm section with the soloists behind you. (Maybe I should have turned around. )
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How about all the times Bird quoted "In an English Country Garden" or "The Kerry Dancers".
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24 minutes ago, ghost of miles said:
I wonder if Mosaic’s ever contemplated a set of Goodman’s 1930s and 40s small group dates for Victor and Columbia. Or just a Columbia set that includes the Charlie Christian material.
Great idea! Maybe they can convince the Goodman estate to allow the release of the Goodman/Christian and Goodman/Prez material in the Savory collection.
Do people remember the Lp where they spliced together Christian solos from different takes of the same song?
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3 hours ago, gmonahan said:
Watched that one last night. I thought Colman Domingo was excellent, and what an interesting part for Chris Rock!
I was really impressed by Domingo because I had just seen him play such a different role in The Color Purple.
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10 hours ago, gmonahan said:
Me too. Well worth seeing! ("American Fiction") Especially loved the ending!
I've seen it twice and between viewings read the book on which it's based. The book is great but I think the changes made for the film were necessary for it to work as well as it did in that medium.
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I have tickets to see him in April so he's still performing.
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On 11/17/2022 at 7:31 AM, medjuck said:
My apologies for forgetting. I was a bit overwhelmed at that conference.
But then I met Mile '65 again at the Paris Ellington conference.
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On 1/21/2024 at 1:50 AM, mjazzg said:
A favourite, always great to be able to see them in the flesh
Some were so small you could barely see them. The museum offered magnifying glasses which were useful for the Songs of Innocence and Experience.
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I think because this was under "Announcements" no one could respond. Larry posted:
"I'm back after a six months unfairly enforced absence in an assisted care living facility. Maybe I'll tell you the whole story after enough time has passed, but it's a strange one."
Welcome back, Larry.
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William Blake at the Getty. https://www.getty.edu/visit/cal/events/ev_3282.html
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I think I saw Sonny Rollins in every decade from the '60s through when he retired. IIRC The first time I saw him he had Grant Green on guitar and I thought he was suffering from too much a Coltrane influence. The next time I saw him was with a pick-up group in Toronto in late'60s or early '70s and he blew me away (though the concert got a bad review in Coda).
Saw him often with the trombone-guitar group and enjoyed every concert.
However the records I enjoy the most are the ones with Don Cherry.
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2 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said:
There are examples of pop tunes being cut from DVDs, because the original contracts specified videotape, and did not take into account future formats such as DVDs and streaming. It is unusual, though, to have the score cut. This also happened with Pete Rugolo's music for "The Fugitive" on the first DVD release of the series.
Wow they had a bad lawyer. However there were many films that didn't clear music rights for home video because home video barely existed (if it existed at all) at the time the film was made. Frank Zappa held up the home video release of MediumCool for many years because of a song that was barely heard in the film.
Later contracts bought music rights for "any future medium throughout the universe". (I'm paraphrasing-- can't remember the exact wording. )
Jazz musicians with the same names
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The two West Coast pianists named John Williams. (The movie one played with Benny Carter.)