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I agree the trumpet doesn't sound like Ian Carr. And yes some interesting 'artwork' covers on the Hitland website.

Herbie Hancock - Blow Up extra sessions? Allegedly some British musicians took part in the original recordings but the final commercial release involved US musicians only. Does the following comprise the "lost" British sessions? Hard to tell because from the websites there is no personnel listing. Also, forensically analysing the playing is quite difficult - any ideas please? (PS the music is very good indeed and there are several sights where previews or full tracks are available to hear before you buy - including YouTube). From the Ian Carr website: "Released in 1966 by Sony Special Music Projects. Catalog Number: AK-52418 -1966 (NB subsequent releases of this contain different personnel - believed to be for commercial reasons - without Ian Carr and other British musicians, who participated in the original recording sessions)" http://www.amazon.co.uk/Blow-Extra-Sessions-herbie-hancock/dp/B000057DWM/ref=sr_1_61?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1381502684&sr=1-61 Herbie Hancock the blow up extra-sessions http://www.hitland.com/Hitland/Catalogo_1.html#53

TRIBUTE TO STAN TRACEY's 70 YEARS IN MUSIC - AT THE 100 CLUB, 100 Oxford St. London, W1D 1LL, on MONDAY NOVEMBER 18th from 6pm–11pm/doors 5.45pm - Featuring: GINGER BAKER, Dame CLEO LAINE, GEORGIE FAME, JOHN TAYLOR QUINTET, KEITH EMERSON, ZOE RAHMAN, STAN TRACEY ALUMNI and SURPRISE GUESTS - As Stan Tracey celebrates an incredible seventy years as a professional musician this year, Stan takes a back seat as the Music Scene pays tribute to him in a special gig staged at the 100 Club in Oxford Street, London featuring, live on stage, not only many musicians associated with him over the years but also music stars who wish to pay a personal musical tribute. The evening will begin by a set by the legendary drummer GINGER BAKER, followed by Dame CLEO LAINE with her band. The evening will also feature sets by GEORGIE FAME, JULIAN JOSEPH with PETER KING, a rare appearance by legend KEITH EMERSON, THE STAN TRACEY ALUMNI (featuring Stan's current crop of the best of the UK's jazz soloists), the highly regarded pianist JOHN TAYLOR and many others. There will also be SURPRISE GUEST STARS. This is a night not to be missed. Admission £30 concs.£25 on the door. For up to date information on this gig check out the following web page here: http://stantracey.com/tribute.htm Sounds unmissable and I aim to be there!

No further details re: tracklisting and the release date is now early November however, here is the text from the Ogun press release... Catalogue number: OGCD 041 Barcode number: 5 020675 572386 HARRY MILLER : “Different Times, Different Places” Harry Miller bass, Louis Moholo-Moholo drums, Chris McGregor piano, Keith Tippett piano, Mike Osborne alto sax, Mark Charig trumpet, Nick Evans trombone, Malcolm Griffiths trombone (collective personnel) Virtuoso South African bassist Harry Miller forged his reputation on the British jazz scene working alongside Mike Westbrook, Bob Downes, John Stevens and fellow exiled South Africans Chris McGregor, Dudu Pukwana and Louis Moholo-Moholo. As his reputation spread, Miller worked increasingly on mainland Europe with the likes of Peter Brötzmann, Misha Mengelberg and Willem Breuker. “Different Times, Different Places”, which follows up on the 1999 Ogun release “Harry Miller - The Collection” (now a prized collectors’ item) celebrates Miller’s work as leader of the band Isipingo and features previously unreleased sessions from 1973 and 1976.

Harry Miller - Different Times, Different Places (Ogun) Due out 28 October http://www.amazon.co.uk/Different-Times-Places-Harry-Miller/dp/B00FEFJT1W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1381093037&sr=8-1&keywords=Harry+Miller Looks like it could be a great "lost" one found!

An obituary appeared in today's Guardian here: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/sep/24/lindsay-cooper R.I.P. Lindsay

Soft Machine along with Ian Carr's Nucleus were my main entry points into jazz, along with Jon Hiseman's Colosseum and Frank Zappa's Hot Rats. Those first five Sony Softs albums are excellent and IMO pivotal in the history of jazz rock. I saw them play at Croydon's Fairfield Halls in the early 1970s doing much of Soft Machine 6 just before it was released...fantastic stuff. The only thing I don't like about the Sony classic albums set is that it wouldn't have killed them to include some new sleeve notes. There wouldn't have been a shortage of people queuing up to write them!

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His first solo album "Feels Good to Me" is extremely good, with (amongst others) Annette Peacock and Kenny Wheeler.

A couple of small points: I'd move the legal part to the very right in the top ribbon (and have the Discography placed more prominently, after Images and News maybe?) the discography is kind of hard to read, it could use some formatting (indent titles, fatten album titles and release info ... I know that throws over the concept of what's in bold type now, but I'd reconsider that) Anyways, this looks like a very informative site and I wasn't even aware it existed before, so thanks a lot for that! King Ubu, many thanks for your comments which I appreciate - the reason I migrated to this Webs.com site is because it is free - as opposed to the previous one which I had been paying for - and wanted to move to something which was as (or more) functional but free and therefore could (theoretically) last until the end of time (or the end of Webs, the Internet.....) without me. The downside of the Webs site is that it is infernally "quirky" and unlike the Yahoo! one does not require html coding - which although a good thing means that the slightest "tweak" of a page can easily result in losing a whole load of stuff forever. So I'd rather not change anything unless it's actually wrong, for now. I actually changed something that was factually incorrect in the news section yesterday and nearly b*****d up the whole page! So I guess there is no such thing as a free lunch, but as I learn how to use the Webs site more I will aim to improve it whenever I can.

Afraid not, however the LP does come with a free digital download. Not quite the same thing though.

This is slightly "off topic" but I really want some feedback from the participants of this thread. I've migrated the Ian Carr and Nucleus website to a new and (hopefully!) improved one so would very much appreciate it if you could just take a quick look and if you feel like commenting please do so either here or at the email address given at the foot of the home page. Many thanks! The new website is here: http://iancarrsnucleus.webs.com/

I agree, I think in terms of sheer technical sound quality and performance combined with the choice of repertoire on these (Down in the Village and Late Spot at Scott's) they are probably the best to start with as they are extremely good, not just in terms of Tubby Hayes' ability but also his instrumental versatility. Worth tracking these down on CD or vinyl, but try and get the stereo vinyl.

Just had word from Simon Spillett that his long-awaited biography of Tubby Hayes "The Long Shadow of the Little Giant" is now finished! It is accompanied by a substantial discography and from the excerpts he's let me see it's a definite "page-turner". Simon is currently in "negotiations" publisher-wise. I do hope it doesn't take too long to appear on the shelves.

I really loved his tone and skill. I don't think he ever gained the recognition he deserved. RIP Mr Smith.

The Lou Donaldson track sounds close-ish.

I have been plagued for weeks by a tune which keeps playing in my head and won't go away. I can't identify it however much I try. It sounds Coltrane-ish but don't think it is (nearest maybe Blue Trane but it isn't). I have uploaded a very crude version which is not even in perfect time - so apologies there - but this was executed hurriedly on a pathetic and ancient little Yamaha QY10 with micro keys. Enough of the excuses, has anyone else heard this 12 bar before and can identify it....please! It's driving me mad! https://soundcloud.com/#rogereffseffusion/mystery-blues

I've always thought of Sandy Brown as being beyond-trad given that even the earliest material I've heard has at the very least a high-life feel that's not found in normal trad. Point taken Clunky; I guess this website reinforces what you've said: http://www.sandybrownjazz.co.uk/

Yes I remember him in The Baron too. Memorable theme tune.

I watched the Trad Britannia last night - excellent programme narrated by that "national treasure" (is that expression now a pejorative through overuse now?) Roger McGough. Excellent show and despite the fact, being a dirty bopper, I don't even like Trad. It still manages to put some perspective on the growth of jazz generally in the UK. What it didn't have time to say was that several of the guys featured as uber-Tradists sometimes crossed the line into the unmentionable, eg, Acker playing with Stan Tracey's Big Brass, Sandy Brown with Hair at its Hairiest (featuring John McLaughlin), even Chris Barber was known to do some bluesy, less trad-y stuff. They were all big influences on what was to come next. After that the Jazz 625 with George Lewis I found fascinating. Oh yes and Humph started as a Tradist but defected to mainstream and was genuinely interested in what the "other side" had to play. More please. Recommend the Barbara Thompson doc too.

Ginger is a jazz drummer (just that no one told Eric ) or at least a drummer who loves jazz and despises rock. So listen to his Coward of the County album with the Denver Quintet to Octet (or DJQ2O) and Ron Miles plus James Carter. Then listen, as Funkateer mentioned above, to his two trio albums w/ Bill Frisell and Charlie Haden (Going Back Home and Falling of the Roof). "I Lu Kron" from Going Back Home is one of the most insistent, doggedly memorable tracks I have ever heard (on anything). Please don't judge Mr Baker by all his various associations. He now has a new group called Ginger Baker's Jazz Confusion. Some of the live concerts by the Baker/Frisell/Haden trio can be viewed on YouTube too.

Excellent set - many thanks for the link

CHRIS McGREGOR'S BROTHERHOOD OF BREATH With DUDU PUKWANA/EVAN PARKER/MIKE OSBORNE/HARRY BECKETT/BRUCE GRANT/MARC CHARIG/NICK EVANS/RADU MALFATTI/HARRY MILLER/JOHNNY DYANI/LOUIS MOHOLO - Procession: Live At Toulouse + 3 (Ogun 39; UK) McGregor (piano),Harry Beckett, Marc Charig (trumpets), Radu Malfatti (trombone), Mike Osborne, Dudu Pukwana (alto saxes), Evan Parker (tenor sax), Bruce Grant (baritone sax, flute), Johnny Dyani, Harry Miller (basses), Louis Moholo (drums). CD features three BONUS TRACKS not on the original album: "TBS", "Andromeda", and "You Ain't Gonna Know Me Cos You Think You Know Me". "Chris McGregor's Brotherhood of Breath may have had fairly conventional instrumentation for a small big band (four saxophonists, two trumpets, one trombone, two bassists, drums and the leader on piano) but the music was anything but safe and predictable. McGregor and three of his fellow Blue Notes (altoist Dudu Pukwana, bassist Johnny Dyani and drummer Louis Moholo) join some of England's more advanced players, including altoist Mike Osborne, Evan Parker on tenor, and trumpeter Harry Beckett, for three originals, including two which are quite lengthy. Although the themes are strong, the emphasis is on improvising, particularly by the full group together, and there are plenty of intense sections on this colorful LP. Recommended to open-eared listeners, this is one of the Brotherhood of Breath's best recordings." This looks to be released 1 July!

Not only sanctioned by him - he was the one who told me last week about its imminent reissue! Esoteric also reissued his excellent debut album Open Music. He also told me that Sid Smith was writing the sleeve notes.

Bob Downes 1970 album Deep Down Heavy is finally receiving its first reissue on CD next month. This will be released on the Esoteric label. An idiosyncratic but extremely memorable album with some great music and poetry too. Bob is accompanied here by several virtuoso musicians from the Brit jazz fraternity including Ray Russell, Chris Spedding and the late Harry Miller. Highly recommended.