BlueSpirits

About 100 pages in, and it is a gem.

I remember reading Bill Connors left RTF because Chick would ask everyone to rate their solos after the gig, based on some sort of Scientology levels of merit. Edit: Here's what it said on Wikipedia(not the most reliable source) "Connors' disenchantment with the group also stemmed from certain objections to Corea's Scientology-inspired leadership style. "Chick had a lot of ideas that were part of his involvement with Scientology. He got more demanding, and I wasn't allowed to control my own solos. I had no power in the music at all. Then, we'd receive written forms about what clothes we could wear, and graphic charts where we had to rate ourselves every night – not by our standards, but his. Finally, we had to connect dots on a chart every night. I took all of it seriously because I had a lot of respect for Chick, but eventually I just felt screwed around. In the end, my only power was to quit." A lot of his discography leaves me feeling cold and mechanical, but then there are moments of great beauty and warmth. He certainly was one of the giants of all time. As for the Scientology stuff, it creeps me out and it took me a while to separate that part of the man from his music- same goes for anyone, really. Miles, Max Roach, Art Pepper...Eventually I concluded that these are still human beings who are susceptible to and represent both the good and bad/strange aspects of human nature, and it should not necessarily diminish their gift of music to the world. At least that is how I made peace with it, hah.

Wow! Yeah, Sam's was a great place. A place of historic and legendary status. We still have a bunch of excellent small brick and mortar shops, but they don't have their inventory online, and everything is shut down here...

My vinyl arrived today from Dusty Groove! Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Bill Evans- Interplay Grachan Moncur III- Evolution Joe Henderson- In n Out Blue Mitchell- The Thing To Do (Cool that this is one of Chick Corea's earliest sessions, and has a tune called Chick's Tune) It took approximately 5 weeks for the records to go from Chicago to Sweden and back to Toronto. That's not bad, to be honest, as nonsensical as it is. Now awaiting my order from Euclid and Discogs...

I always had a soft spot for this album(unrelated to bad/good album covers) Roy Haynes and Chick have some interesting back and forth.

Haha, that's what I meant, sort of... That it was usually so bad that is was amazing! My sarcasm failed. That's a great album, too.

This version of "Tones" is extremely beautiful. Blue Mitchell's tone is so crystalline. Chick always did have great cover art, as well...

Very clever idea! And you're right, I should check out some more pre-fusion sessions of Billy C. That right there is a nice start.

I guess that means felser is correct? It's Warren Smith? And Elvin on Sir Galahad and Billy C. on New Breed. Very cool. Is that an excerpt from the liner notes? Awesome. Thanks for posting that. Really interesting about the form. I kept replaying the first two minutes of the track, over and over, saying to myself, "what on earth is going on here". One of the most powerful and triumphant and soulful melodies I have ever heard.

Who is playing drums on the title track? The brief info i could find online said Billy Cobham, but then somewhere else I read Elvin and Warren Smith play on the album. It doesn't really sound like Cobham to me, but I guess I haven't heard him in that kind of context before, and was never that big on his playing in Mahavishnu, much prefer Narada Walden. But if that's him on the title track, wow! Some super hip phrasing. Only became aware of Billy the other day thanks to JSngry(by means of Booker Ervin), and man....speechless. Already tracked down a copy of the LP. Next- Black Saint.

One day I would like to visit New Orleans...And much of the Southern U.S. I bet there are some great records to be found! Also, I see you're name and picture are of Bobby Hutcherson- one of the records I've been looking for ages is Knucklebean, and they have a few copies there at Euclid, so I'm probably going to order one once I find out about shipping costs.

Thanks for the tip about this place. They have a bunch of records I am looking for, both new and used, that I didn't see at DG. The prices are reasonable as well. Now to see whether their international (always trips me out to think U.S to Canada is international) shipping protocol is sane. Interesting! Sounds like a great guy, and nice to see that level of co-operation between buyers and sellers.

Awesome! I love when the children of these great artists get involved.

Haha, I'm not quite a millennial, but perhaps a bit younger than a lot of the board here. Please do tell- who is this mysterious Hiroshi? Thanks for all the tips so far, I'm certainly reaping the benefits of all your expertise- which was why I joined this forum in the first place. Certainly going to go broke

Yeah, I asked them that a couple weeks back and this was the response ; "Thanks for the message and apologies for the confusion. All international-bound packages (including Canada, Mexico, and South America) are sorted in an international facility in Sweden. Our economy shipping has always used this facility -- even before economy packages had tracking -- and unfortunately, is something outside of our control. Once these packages are sorted to your country, it is handed over to your local post office for final delivery. " It still doesn't make any sense to me, but I trust that they are legit and I'll get my records eventually The shipping cost was about 20 bucks, which is somewhere in between the realm of "a lot, but not too much." If it was coming straight from Chicago it would probably only have cost a couple of bucks. One thing about Discogs that I've noticed so far is that you have to select which pressings you want to be notified about, and I'm not up on my knowledge of pressings, so that is a bit daunting.

Yeah, I've been checking out there site. I used to go there all the time, in person. I went through their entire jazz discography the other day(new), and picked a few out, but there weren't too many there I didn't already have or want. Thanks for the link. I'll check them out. It's looking like Discogs is the way to go, and yeah it makes sense that if you find a seller that has something you want, they will probably have more.

I used to get all my vinyl the traditional way, going to brick and mortar stores and just scrolling through all the records. I'm not sure when we will get back to "normal" shopping here, and I'm really itching to get some new records. I would love to hear any recommendations about any good online shops you guys have had dealings with. I've stumbled upon DustyGroove in Chicago and I really like their website and the format it is in- I've already ordered a couple of records from there(not sure when they will get here, as I live in Canada and apparently the records are coming from Sweden...it's been a month so far..) Any other stores like that? I guess there's always the Blue Note and Verve websites. I'll probably order some of those Tone Poet records. I've also just made a Discogs profile, and will use that site for tracking down specific albums, but I kind of like just scrolling through a store's inventory and finding gems, know what I mean? Thanks!

Will do!

Spinning this one right now- Really love it Also, JSngry , thanks for telling me to check out Billy Harper. I've spent the last 2 days just going through everything I can find on Youtube. This music is astonishingly good. I can see the connection to Booker, for sure. I've listened to Capra Black, Black Saint, Jon & Billy and The Awakening so far. All of them blew me away. Will now have to go broke tracking down all his LPs

Wow, this is gold. Gonna have to track this one down. Check out that SOUL! The whole band is really on point , too. Thanks for posting this!

Wow! I just checked out this tune What power and melody. Amazing! This is the good stuff, right here.

Agreed. it is joy. I'm a bit OCD with my music collecting, haha, hence why sometimes it can be overwhelming for me. But yes, I cannot think of a cooler thing than say, when I really dug the trumpet on Booker's The Blues Book, (and I discovered Booker through Mingus), so it led me to Carmell Jones, which led me to Harold Land, which led me back To Bobby H. It's an amazing thing. And I love the community already!

Haha, it's all good. This is the year I decided to really get into a lot of jazz that I probably overlooked or slept on. I'm going all out for a new vinyl setup, then to track down all that elusive plastic... I do have a question! How do you guys not get overwhelmed by the amount of music there is to check out? For example, I'm trying to make my way through all of Bobby Hutcherson's discography, but as I am doing that I discover a new guy, then another, then another...and it's like.....there's probably some Coltrane albums I haven't even heard yet! And I will keep spinning the same vinyl over and over because I love it, but then feel like I could be missing out on some other album. And don't get me started on keeping up with new cats coming out there days! There's still so much back catalogue to go through! Of course it's great fun and such a gift to have all of this amazing music to discover, but sometime I feel like I need a system, ahha,