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duck, it sounds like the problem was with you and not with the music.

and i guess maybe i say this because in my head i hear marvin pete playing with smooth soulful sax operators like clifford jordan around this time which made him sound a tad overdone. just imo. it is weird to me even now that so many people do not know that norman connors contributed POSITIVELY to the music. they just think he was narada michael walden. well narada did play some tight drums with mahavishnu john for a moment, i guess.

since no one responded to this one, let me say i wish i was at this show. i feel like i have seen robin kenyatta listed as just a percussionist before. i find this strange. don't know why. also not really a fan of marvin pete in this era. his playing is a little blaring sometimes, imo.

jellyfish

buy super mario galaxy, turn it on and the turn on your family and dose them.

i guess i found one man's journey (get it?!?!?!) more interesting than a city's journey. and from what i know of the issues in both shows, i felt like the wire was written by people who didn't know their subjects that well. the show was an ill mix of "TV" and realism. the sopranos kept a more interesting tone throughout and seemed more true to its subject matter. and even if it wasn't truer, i didn't feel that bad mix i felt with the wire.

just my feeling. the wire had no juice. meh.

that is one dumpy mama!!!!!!!

hi. after having a few days to shit it over i will say that i do not think the wire was very good. it was a crappy series, imo. however, the sopranos still holds up. i bet in twenty years when people are truly ready to debate this and it is a classic sports radio argument, people will share this opinion.

spagett?

j-sangz, i should say that "iapetus" requires more concentration than i expected. it is certainly heady, but it is a demanding album. i thought it would be more vaguely grooving and vamping riff tunes but that is not the case. it is subtle and explorative. maybe the presence of bayete and luis gasca (mispelled on album sleeve) led me to think this. well baytete could be challenging or he could be the "automatic man", hehe.

mg-i think the backings on brasswind are pretty good (george duke? if i remember, etc) but ammons sounds bad. you are right. cosmos is the lou donaldson album where i think the guys sound like an actualy soul/funk band and not jazz dudes playing funky songs. in this sense, find the backing vocals which i would usually hate, to actually be well integrated. but i feel like the guys (sparks, muhammed, spencer, etc) sounds like a BAND on this one. np-cannonball adderley: experience in E (this has some good axelrod on it). just played eddie russ-see the light...AWESOME. eddie russ was like a rich man's lonnie liston smith in terms of electric jazz funk. how are the sonny stitt/eddie russ sides? looks like there is a comp CD at cdbaby? more straight awesome eddie russ-mixed bag...mixed bag's first album is it called? on tribe. great stuff. more acoustic.

speaking of mainstream, i thought you would rate those charles williams/don pullen jams higher, mg.

like i always say, the LIVE stuff during the 80s (not the crap with santana) but his live bands were pretty cool. some of the best 80s jazz...with a heavy whiff of fusion funk sometimes...but it was cool how he loosened up some of those studio compositions from the 80s albums. but he always had interesting bands...sometimes with two synth players at once.

mg-onsaya joy is a live trio set on flying dutchman by groove holmes. he plays some synth and plays some serious bass. as a whole, it isn't much different than earlier holmes...more stretched out, but a lot of it is still swinging. still playing some of the same tunes-sweet georgia brown, for instance. the title track is a long funky jam, though...with an infectious guitar lick. and there is a nice version of song for my father. but it is just a very fun swingng live date (much better than x-77!) i don't know what pricey entails but i own two copies of the LP and both cost me about 20 bucks, which in your money is probably like 5 euros. i purchased on copy online and one in a new york city store...neither place known for good deals. i am sure it goes for a lot more sometimes, though. don't be scared off by the lameness of groove holmes other flying dutchman album (which i have and i can't even remember the name though the version of caravan is amusing. the lamont johnson is on mainstream. he plays organ on this one. besides the mobley, johnson is on a number of jackie mclean albums, but i guess those are not in your wheelhouse. but on this mainstream album he plays wacked out funky stuff. he is playing some weird effected electric organ which sounds sort of like an out of tune toy but is very fun, imo. a number of the tunes are more acoustic piano-led swinging tunes which are nice, but the main interest is in the funky wacky organ tracks (weird band-sal marquez who played with zappa is on trumpet and charles owens who was on some good black jazz albums is on sax).

gary king could move also. i wish he was on more stuff. but he more came on as the music was already moving into less interesting things like disco beatz and rocked guitars. the bassist could add a lot on these sessions, but jimmy lewis didn't add much of anything, imo.

i always thought jimmy lewis was really boring and uninteresting. the better sessions in this genre had other guys or no one on bass, imo (besides leon spencer, for instance). jerry jemott and gordon edwards being examples of more interesting e-bassists. though i guess ron carter sounds good on some of the CTI stuff. but jimmy lewis is a sign of blah to me. i don't actually know anything about him besides he is really not interesting, though. it is like he was the only bassist at that time playing the e-bass or something. i mean i know that isn't really true, but in my head i picture rudy van G or bob porter or ozzie cadena or whomever being like "oh we need an electric bassist for this session? who can we call? oh, jimmy lewis is the only guy in new york who can play electric bass? really? damn ok give him a call." and then lewis would come and play the most boring safe bass possible (he is a little better on "dirty grape" and "soul flowers", imo.) but really, most organists on those sessions could play more interesting bass than him. i guess it was early in the whole thing and maybe the role of the bassist hadn't really been defined in the soul jazz groups? so he was just sort of holding it down? maybe it was just the fault of him being a progenitor of a more interesting and active role of the bassist in soul jazz? he came along too early? but even like when i listen to george duvivier, who was an old school guy, playing acoustic bass on some of those prestige soul sessions, he is movin' way way better than jimmy lewis. yuck.

what is going on? mr jazz, you seem to have somehow misunderstood chuck's very clear statement which he didn't feel like spelling out for you but didn't need spelling out unless you are brazilian or chinese or serbian or something but if you are from america or otherwise a native-speaker of english, unless you are in eight grade or below, i think chuck was pretty straight forward (especially for chuck). yet it sent you on an insane multiple post rant. but your rant is based on a stupid (in the insignifigant sense) misunderstanding. maybe delete some of these crazy posts and reread this thread with a clear and mellow mind and you will feel differently. also if you did indeed run chuck off, it will be difficult for me to ever forgive you and if i ever meet you in person it is possible i will avoid making direct eye contact with you and give you a very limp and unenthusiastic handshake.

johnny hammond you could make that fucking argument through the entire 70s! my favorite of his albums is actually probably "don't let the system get you down" but he was still for the most part playing with younger "cats" even then in 1977/78.

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jeez why are adults having trouble grasping simple concepts here and understanding each other? i guess it is a language barrier?

off the top of my head- groove holmes-onsaya joy (a little late but whatever) groove holmes/jimmy mcgriff-giants of the organ in concert jimmy mcgriff-stump juice lamont johnson-sun, stars and moon lou donaldson-cosmos rusty bryant-fire eater leon spencer-where i'm coming from jack mcduff-moon rappin' jack mcduff-the heatin' system (cadet one, not later one) johnny lytle-people & love ugh but i miss charles earland then..i will redo but i guess i would either put charles earland live at the lighthouse or dynamite brothers though i totally agree with connosaur that the albums with billy cobham are awesome! maybe soul story...i will be back.

yes you guys are like twenty years older than me. you are all creeping me out.

wow mg, these are all albums i considered on some level. and i have wanted to hear star bag. i assume it must be great. hopefully i will hear it soon. captain buckles is awesome but the cover of something kills it for me. snore.