AndrewHill Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 not trying to cause trouble, but is there anyone else here who, when listening to Sun Ra, after, say, 1965, can almost never get through an entire track? my mind wanders to another place, let us say, as I listen (to the land of boredom?) - love his piano playing, by the way, and have the Bley-produced solo album - I can, and have! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 So I picked up the Freedom box set today and I am quite pleased that contrary to the Amazon reviews, the sound is of pretty decent quality. Needless to say the music is fantastic. I really find Sun Ra's transitional music of the mid to late '60- early '70's pretty interesting. FWIW, I did not know that Pat Patrick doubled on electric bass, at least that's what the liners say for the 12/71 set. Good move, Ghost. SONG OF THE SPARER on the first disc is a real favorite of mine... Yes! I listened to the entire set all the way through last night and it is amazing, especially Outer Spaceways Inc. which I think was originally on Black Lion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gslade Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 not trying to cause trouble, but is there anyone else here who, when listening to Sun Ra, after, say, 1965, can almost never get through an entire track? my mind wanders to another place, let us say, as I listen (to the land of boredom?) - love his piano playing, by the way, and have the Bley-produced solo album - I've heard that you have a long history of this, "mind wanders to another place" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 HELL YEAH YOUR MIND IS SUPPOSED TO WANDER OUT INTO SPACE MAN SATURN MAN SPACE IS THE PLACE SPACE IS THE PLACE IT"S AFTER THE END OF THE WORLD DON'T YOU KNOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 (edited) yeah, my mind goes toward space but not quite to the land of Ra - Ronnie Boykins is/was one of my favorite bass players - I heard him in person only once (in a small group with Bob Neloms, at the Tin Palace - amazing sound -) I usually find the first 3-5 minutes edifying, and than... love Marshall Allen, Gilmore, too, Pat Patrick scared me once (but I was only 16 or so) - love the sound of Ra in small doses - and than it's like listening to my old Buddhist friends chant, back in, say 1973 or so - I appreciate their sincerity but I don't find it compelling - Edited February 2, 2008 by AllenLowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 "They say history repeats itself. They say history repeats itself. They say history repeats itself. They say history repeats itself, repeats itself. But history is his story, its not my story, what's your story?" -Sun Ra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jostber Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 yeah, my mind goes toward space but not quite to the land of Ra - Ronnie Boykins is/was one of my favorite bass players - I heard him in person only once (in a small group with Bob Neloms, at the Tin Palace - amazing sound -) I usually find the first 3-5 minutes edifying, and than... love Marshall Allen, Gilmore, too, Pat Patrick scared me once (but I was only 16 or so) - love the sound of Ra in small doses - and than it's like listening to my old Buddhist friends chant, back in, say 1973 or so - I appreciate their sincerity but I don't find it compelling - "Astro Black" has a lot of Boykins: http://www.the-temple.net/sunradisco/astroblack.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jostber Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Has anyone heard this solo record by Ronnie Boykins? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Will-Come-Now-Ronn...788&sr=8-3c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 It's really, really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogak Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 i don't like albums where the longest track is my least favorite, and the boykins fits into that group. the last track has a lot of aimless (to me) percussion noodling before getting into the nice but very brief theme. other tracks are very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartjewkes Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Just on my first listen to the first cd of Solr Myth Approach Vols 1 & 2, sounds good so far. Lots of percussion and pretty free, but I have heard say that there is some solo moog stuff at one point which I'm pretty excited about. I've seen a few Sun Ra cds about recently at reasonable prices so I might pick them all up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Just on my first listen to the first cd of Solr Myth Approach Vols 1 & 2, sounds good so far. Lots of percussion and pretty free, but I have heard say that there is some solo moog stuff at one point which I'm pretty excited about. I love those albums, but I don't remember any Moog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogak Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 there is moog. some of the longer tracks are moog solo explorations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Sorry, I'm getting the Solar Myth Approach confused with another collection/album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartjewkes Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Sorry, I'm getting the Solar Myth Approach confused with another collection/album. No worries just heard a good old freakout and loved every second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Really wish I had some bread to spend on those Transparency sets... it's depressing me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jostber Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Just on my first listen to the first cd of Solr Myth Approach Vols 1 & 2, sounds good so far. Lots of percussion and pretty free, but I have heard say that there is some solo moog stuff at one point which I'm pretty excited about. I've seen a few Sun Ra cds about recently at reasonable prices so I might pick them all up. Those albums are some of my favourites! "The Utter Nots", "Legend" and "Spectrum" shows the Arkestra at its sprawling best. "Pyramids" is a beautiful song. These vinyl 180 gr. editions got great sound: http://www.soundstagedirect.com/Sun-Ra-The...1-BYG-40H.shtml http://www.soundstagedirect.com/Sun-Ra-The...2-BYG-41H.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 I don't have nor have I really looked for a digital image anywhere of the Horsehow cover; it comes in a black binder that has cdrs in sleves two ring bound, with a color photograph on the front. No booklet for this. The two discs I've listened to are both "one track discs," i.e. no indexing of titles. Which is okay with me. Disc ten is an interview disc. As disconcerting as I find his interviews, I may skip that one! I think Vol. 4 is very good, and I also really like Vol. 1's music. Any more details on this box? Are they all "one track discs" (how annoying!) and is there much repetition between sets? I still can't find any setlist anywhere on line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Well today, fate was in a pleasant mood, as the used cd bin was filled to the hilt with Sun Ra cds. Naturally I bought them all. Here's what I got: Somewhere Else-Rounder Love in Outer Space-Leo A Night in East Berlin-Leo Friendly Galaxy-Leo at the Ann Arbor Blues and Jazz Festival in Exile 1974-It is Forbidden-Total Energy So far I've listened to everything except the Total Energy and Somewhere Else is a favorite with Love in Outer Space a close second. Does anyone else own these titles? What are your opinions of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 whos on the ronnie boykins lp? whats it like? was sun mad that he made it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Don't know how Ra felt, but Ronnie did leave the band shortly thereafter I think. Gilmore took sideman gigs but always came back to the fold, right? Daaoud Haroom, trombone Joe Ferguson, sax/fl Jimmy Vass, sax Monty Waters, sax/fl George Avaloz, conga Art Lewis, drums Ronnie Boykins, b/sousaphone all play percussion instruments as well. There's a small-group Ra vibe to the proceedings, I guess, and very easy on the ears. I haven't listened to it in a few years, though. If my cat wasn't named Silva, I woulda named him Daaoud Haroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Any more details on this box? Are they all "one track discs" (how annoying!) and is there much repetition between sets? I still can't find any setlist anywhere on line. I haven't listened further than the second disc in this one; I've had less time than usual to listen due to work issues and I've leaned heavily into "comfort food" listening lately, which has meant this time a heavy diet of Elllington, Armstrong and Monk. I'd be surprised if they weren't ALL one track cdrs, not indexed at all. And I think there will be not that much "repitition" of exact set lists. It might be several weeks before I have a definitive answer for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Really wish I had some bread to spend on those Transparency sets... it's depressing me! Well seeing how the first 5 volumes made it onto the Dime I'm sure both of the box sets will eventually find their way over there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Just listening to 'Nuclear War' on the Greek 'Y' Records. If my memory is right this was due to be released by them originally in the UK but the company went bust beforehand so the limited copies that got out were from the Greek pressing plant. A nice slice of early-80s Ra though - and the title track vocal is a 'period classic'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jostber Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 (edited) Just listening to 'Nuclear War' on the Greek 'Y' Records. If my memory is right this was due to be released by them originally in the UK but the company went bust beforehand so the limited copies that got out were from the Greek pressing plant. A nice slice of early-80s Ra though - and the title track vocal is a 'period classic'. The story on "Nuclear War": http://www.atavistic.com/albums.php?id=272 Edited February 16, 2008 by jostber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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