jlhoots Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 4 hours ago, HutchFan said: Chic Chic Chico! How about that cape? ... Most dudes would look silly wearing that thing. But Chico looks debonair. All these guys smoking back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 5 hours ago, kh1958 said: Oudi Hrant, Turkish Delights (Prestige). Brief liner notes and no recording date/discographical information included or in Prestige discography. The leader is superb on oud. There are also ensemble performances. Several feature saxophone solos. The saxophonist sounds like Zoot Sims. Awesome, would love to check this out. I believe the saxophonist could be Joe Maneri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 5 hours ago, jlhoots said: All these guys smoking back in the day. Yeah. It was ubiquitous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 4 hours ago, clifford_thornton said: Awesome, would love to check this out. I believe the saxophonist could be Joe Maneri. Please elaborate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 Now on my 'table: Hilton Ruiz - Crosscurrents (Stash, 1985) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kh1958 Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 8 hours ago, clifford_thornton said: Awesome, would love to check this out. I believe the saxophonist could be Joe Maneri. I just lucked into this on eBay in perfect condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 9 hours ago, JSngry said: Please elaborate? I guess a key piece of evidence is this album https://canary-records.bandcamp.com/album/the-cleopatra-record which features Maneri together with Hrant in an early 60s incarnation as ethnic clarinet virtuoso... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Niko said: I guess a key piece of evidence is this album https://canary-records.bandcamp.com/album/the-cleopatra-record which features Maneri together with Hrant in an early 60s incarnation as ethnic clarinet virtuoso... Thanks for posting this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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porcy62 Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 NY mono. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 Coleman Hawkins, Album volume 1 (Trio) Eric Kloss, First Class Kloss (Prestige) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcy62 Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 Mono Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 58 minutes ago, porcy62 said: NY mono. Good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 hour ago, porcy62 said: NY mono. Excellent .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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porcy62 Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 hour ago, sidewinder said: Good one. I admit I am not a great fan of Roland Kirk's multi instrument playing but I can appreciate the effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 8 hours ago, mjazzg said: Thanks for posting this. Yeah, I'll have to listen closer to the Prestige but the Cleopatra date isn't far off and that has been confirmed to be Maneri. I could ask Mat next time I see him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 Ah! I have the same Prestige record by Hrant, only named named Eastern Standard Time. Got it off a blog, and it's on the Near East label, a Prestige subsidiary. Listed here as: https://www.jazzdisco.org/prestige-records/catalog-lively-arts-30000-irish-35000-near-east-45000-series/#nelp-45005 NELP 45005 The Genius Of Oudi Hrant - Eastern Standard Time 1962 Udi Hrant Kenkulian as Oudi Hrant, oud; with ensemble Morty Lewis, tenor sax Morty Lewis? https://www.discogs.com/artist/439252-Morty-Lewis https://www.discogs.com/release/1898508-The-Glenn-Miller-Orchestra-In-The-Digital-Mood https://www.radioswissjazz.ch/de/musikdatenbank/titel/99978b76e079d44713d49300514d75f8dd69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 Alternatively, from the Bandcamp page that Niko linked to above " the resulting LP, originally issued as Eastern Standard Time in 1962 and subsequently reissued as Turkish Delights, included several tracks with jazz saxophonist Johnny Griffin" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 minute ago, mjazzg said: Alternatively, from the Bandcamp page that Niko linked to above " the resulting LP, originally issued as Eastern Standard Time in 1962 and subsequently reissued as Turkish Delights, included several tracks with jazz saxophonist Johnny Griffin" No way that is Johnny Griffin. Definitely a Lestorian tenor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 minute ago, mjazzg said: Alternatively, from the Bandcamp page that Niko linked to above " the resulting LP, originally issued as Eastern Standard Time in 1962 and subsequently reissued as Turkish Delights, included several tracks with jazz saxophonist Johnny Griffin" It's not Johnny Griffin. They also call Prestige Orin Keepnews' label, so I think they are not deeply informed about some things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JSngry said: It's not Johnny Griffin. They also call Prestige Orin Keepnews' label, so I think they are not deeply informed about some things. Yes, and a good deal of what they write is taken from here about the Cleopatra album https://theperlichpost.blogspot.com/2016/09/before-they-were-famous-joe-maneri.html Edited December 19, 2021 by mjazzg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 This Morty Lewis guy seem totally credible, but I'd feel better if Jazzdisco could give a citation. It's not on any of the LPs, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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