colinmce Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 A lot of early ECMs sound totally different - maybe Eicher hadn't perfected the reverb quotient, or maybe it was because he didn't record all of them at that point. They are often a lot rawer than stuff from the mid-80s onward. Also the US pressings/masterings are rolled off, or seem to be - the German issues are not. As I mentioned in the Listening thread the other day, Conference of the Birds sounds like shit. But I suppose that was in the air at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homefromtheforest Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 A lot of early ECMs sound totally different - maybe Eicher hadn't perfected the reverb quotient, or maybe it was because he didn't record all of them at that point. They are often a lot rawer than stuff from the mid-80s onward. Also the US pressings/masterings are rolled off, or seem to be - the German issues are not. As I mentioned in the Listening thread the other day, Conference of the Birds sounds like shit. But I suppose that was in the air at the time. Really? How so? I have a mint German vinyl issue and it sounds excellent to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunky Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 A lot of early ECMs sound totally different - maybe Eicher hadn't perfected the reverb quotient, or maybe it was because he didn't record all of them at that point. They are often a lot rawer than stuff from the mid-80s onward. Also the US pressings/masterings are rolled off, or seem to be - the German issues are not. As I mentioned in the Listening thread the other day, Conference of the Birds sounds like shit. But I suppose that was in the air at the time. Really? How so? I have a mint German vinyl issue and it sounds excellent to me... Like wise , fine sounding German edition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Mama Lapato - s/t {Bead] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunky Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Last Exit ------------s/t--------(Enemy) Perfect for this Saturday morning - listening with headphones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffcrom Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Last Exit ------------s/t--------(Enemy) Perfect for this Saturday morning - listening with headphones. You're a tougher soul than me, Clunky. I love Last Exit, but I can't listen to them in the morning. I have to ease into the day, with something like: Jack Wilson - Brazilian Mancini (Vault mono). Better than the concept-within-a-concept would suggest. Mr. Jobim himself is on guitar, although under a pseudonym. It's good for what it is - not profound, and it's perfect for the amount of attention I want to give it right now. And it offers a generous 13 minutes of playing time per side! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 A lot of early ECMs sound totally different - maybe Eicher hadn't perfected the reverb quotient, or maybe it was because he didn't record all of them at that point. They are often a lot rawer than stuff from the mid-80s onward. Also the US pressings/masterings are rolled off, or seem to be - the German issues are not. As I mentioned in the Listening thread the other day, Conference of the Birds sounds like shit. But I suppose that was in the air at the time. Really? How so? I have a mint German vinyl issue and it sounds excellent to me... I admit I only have the CD, but the bass is the typical 70s sound: clear, thin, and rubbery. The drums are distant and tinny. Generally no depth with kind of an odd balance. Maybe I'd be happier with a German LP. But like I said, it comes off as typically terrible 70s production to me. I'd rather it were ECM'd! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Sonny Terry and Brownie McGhee, Down Home Blues (Prestige/Bluesville) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 A lot of early ECMs sound totally different - maybe Eicher hadn't perfected the reverb quotient, or maybe it was because he didn't record all of them at that point. They are often a lot rawer than stuff from the mid-80s onward. Also the US pressings/masterings are rolled off, or seem to be - the German issues are not. As I mentioned in the Listening thread the other day, Conference of the Birds sounds like shit. But I suppose that was in the air at the time. Really? How so? I have a mint German vinyl issue and it sounds excellent to me... I admit I only have the CD, but the bass is the typical 70s sound: clear, thin, and rubbery. The drums are distant and tinny. Generally no depth with kind of an odd balance. Maybe I'd be happier with a German LP. But like I said, it comes off as typically terrible 70s production to me. I'd rather it were ECM'd! I have a US pressing that doesn't sound too great - fairly "dull" although the music is awesome - would prefer the German to compare the sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffcrom Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Paul Bley/Bill Connors/Jimmy Giuffre - Quiet Song (Improvising Artists). A source of wonder to me for many years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunky Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Cecil Payne-----The Connection ---- (Charlie Parker Records) UK stereo Strong session. Very good pressing in excellent condition, sounding great despite being a "budget" 1962 release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Kenny Wheeler - Around 6 [ECM] my favourite Kenny ECM. Couldn't resist a vinyl copy in Oxfam this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Luther Thomas - 11th Street Fire Suite [Creative Consciousness] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Budd Johnson, Off the Wall (Argo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 LP 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 LP 5 LP 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) Cecil Payne-----The Connection ---- (Charlie Parker Records) UK stereo Strong session. Very good pressing in excellent condition, sounding great despite being a "budget" 1962 release. Weren't those pressed somewhere in Lancashire? I have the feeling that it was something to do with that budget label Everest. Edited December 14, 2014 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffcrom Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Archie Shepp & Philly Joe Jones (Fantasy), with basically the same cover as the America issue shown here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Clugston Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Warne Marsh, All Music (Nessa) Steve Lacy, Lapis (Saravah, Japan) Steve Lacy, The Forest and The Zoo (Base reissue) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homefromtheforest Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Kenny Wheeler - Around 6 [ECM] my favourite Kenny ECM. Couldn't resist a vinyl copy in Oxfam this weekend. That's certainly a great one and in my top few Wheelers as well. Love the opening track and Vesala shines throughout. Started with a USA pressing and now own a Japanese pressing. May one day try a German pressing just for comparisons sake as it is a gem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homefromtheforest Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Tonight's spins: Art Blakey "the big beat" (blue note, 47 w 63rd DG stereo) Hank Mobley "s/t" (blue note 1568, mono Japan King) Embryo "we keep on" (BASF, Germany) Spontaneous Music Ensemble "oliv" (marmalade, UK) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffcrom Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Earl Hines - My Tribute to Louis (Audiophile). A Chuck Nessa recommendation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Chico Freeman: Spirit Sensitive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) Earl Hines - My Tribute to Louis (Audiophile). A Chuck Nessa recommendation. Never seen that one. Looks great. Edited December 15, 2014 by colinmce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 15, 2014 Report Share Posted December 15, 2014 Kenny Wheeler - Around 6 [ECM] my favourite Kenny ECM. Couldn't resist a vinyl copy in Oxfam this weekend. That's certainly a great one and in my top few Wheelers as well. Love the opening track and Vesala shines throughout. Started with a USA pressing and now own a Japanese pressing. May one day try a German pressing just for comparisons sake as it is a gem... The German pressing of that one sounds predictably nice ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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