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11 hours ago, HutchFan said:

Pim, I've never seen that LP before. 

What do you think of the music?

It is pretty damn good :) Sonny Grey is in prime form and this is of course Mal’s great period although he doesn’t get to much space. Definitely interesting and worth hearing.

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On 1/12/2020 at 6:05 AM, Pim said:

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Not a great title for an LP. :)

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13 hours ago, Chuck Nessa said:

My copy has an orange "stereo" sticker on a mono jacket.

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All CD versions I heard of The Soul Man! had way too much compression (2 recent Japanese, and also I believe 1996 Germany, except the 1992 Japanese Victor VICJ-23726 which I'm spinning now, mastered at Fantasy Studios 1991. These are the only 4 CD versions Discogs lists. Was there an early 90s US release on CD?

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2 minutes ago, erwbol said:

All CD versions I heard of The Soul Man had way too much compression (2 recent Japanese, and also I believe 1996 Germany, except the 1992 Japanese Victor VICJ-23726 which I'm spinning now, mastered at Fantasy Studios 1991. These are the only 4 CD versions Discogs lists. Was there an early 90s US release on CD?

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It is included in this Prestige cd from 1994.

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2 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said:

It is included in this Prestige cd from 1994.

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That explains why I couldn't find it. The German CD was an early effort by ZYX to do the mastering in-house according to Discogs. A few years later this lead to the disastrous black border 20bit digipacks.

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3 hours ago, Pim said:

It is pretty damn good :) Sonny Grey is in prime form and this is of course Mal’s great period although he doesn’t get to much space. Definitely interesting and worth hearing.

I have the original French pressing on Numera (which was apparently distributed by Futura, as it's got a big Futura logo sticker on the verso -- different cover art). It's a really nice record. Grey, Waldron, and Clarke are certainly the reasons to pick it up, as all are indeed in top form. It's a moody, somewhat avant-garde leaning post-bop date.

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41 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said:

I have the original French pressing on Numera (which was apparently distributed by Futura, as it's got a big Futura logo sticker on the verso -- different cover art). It's a really nice record. Grey, Waldron, and Clarke are certainly the reasons to pick it up, as all are indeed in top form. It's a moody, somewhat avant-garde leaning post-bop date.

Very accurate description! The version you have is quite rare and goes for quite a lot of money. But I do believe it is not the only rare thing in your collection ;)

The Japanese version on mercury is a little easier to get. Sound quality is very good.

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Francois Tusques & Sunny Murray - Intercommunal Dialogue 1+2 [Ni Vu Ni Connu]

 

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2 hours ago, clifford_thornton said:

I have the original French pressing on Numera (which was apparently distributed by Futura, as it's got a big Futura logo sticker on the verso -- different cover art). It's a really nice record. Grey, Waldron, and Clarke are certainly the reasons to pick it up, as all are indeed in top form. It's a moody, somewhat avant-garde leaning post-bop date.

 

1 hour ago, Pim said:

Very accurate description! The version you have is quite rare and goes for quite a lot of money. But I do believe it is not the only rare thing in your collection ;)

The Japanese version on mercury is a little easier to get. Sound quality is very good.

Thanks for the additional info, gents. :tup 

 

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10 years after it came out I finally got this great Pure Pleasure release. Sonics are superb, you could almost be in the club. Didn’t catch this particular Ronnie Scott engagement but I did catch Art as part of George Wein’s London Fest that same Summer season, so it all has great personal meaning. Better late than never. :)

It blows the Mole Jazz LPs out of the water !

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2 hours ago, mjazzg said:

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Francois Tusques & Sunny Murray - Intercommunal Dialogue 1+2 [Ni Vu Ni Connu]

 

oh damn, need to pick this up!

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You do! It's as good as you think it is.

Note the "45 tours" which I didn't spot before ordering. 

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2 hours ago, sidewinder said:

10 years after it came out I finally got this great Pure Pleasure release. Sonics are superb, you could almost be in the club. Didn’t catch this particular Ronnie Scott engagement but I did catch Art as part of George Wein’s London Fest that same Summer season, so it all has great personal meaning. Better late than never. :)

It blows the Mole Jazz LPs out of the water !

:tup:tup:tup!!!

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21 minutes ago, mjazzg said:

You do! It's as good as you think it is.

Note the "45 tours" which I didn't spot before ordering. 

listening to it on Bandcamp now. Hell yes.

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4 minutes ago, soulpope said:

:tup:tup:tup!!!

Delighted to see in the booklet (up to Mosaic standards) Art reminiscing about his performance at Capital LJF 1980 of ‘Over The Rainbow’ backed by John Lewis, Slam Stewart and Roy Haynes. He brought the house down - and I can recall it to this day. Freddie Hubbard preceded him with this trio and Dizzy G. took over afterwards. They don’t make concerts like that any more. :)

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I think it was THIS band that made Blakey and the Messengers popular again. 

His early- and mid seventies Discography was quite thin and with Valery Ponomarev, Dave Schnitter, Bobby Watson, James Williams and Dennis Irwin he really had a band that was together and every one was a top soloist. 

I saw the band with Ponomarev, Watson, Williams still in the Group, but another Tenor Player (Billy Pierce) and another bass Player (Charles Fambrough).

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1 hour ago, Gheorghe said:

 

I saw the band with Ponomarev, Watson, Williams still in the Group, but another Tenor Player (Billy Pierce) and another bass Player (Charles Fambrough).

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Same here - first time I saw Blakey.

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3 hours ago, Gheorghe said:

I think it was THIS band that made Blakey and the Messengers popular again. 

His early- and mid seventies Discography was quite thin and with Valery Ponomarev, Dave Schnitter, Bobby Watson, James Williams and Dennis Irwin he really had a band that was together and every one was a top soloist. 

I saw the band with Ponomarev, Watson, Williams still in the Group, but another Tenor Player (Billy Pierce) and another bass Player (Charles Fambrough).

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I have this on cd. Good Art I thought. Never saw him in concert but did get to see Ponomarev several years ago. 

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3 hours ago, sidewinder said:

Same here - first time I saw Blakey.

We had the Blakey 5tet in Oct. 1979 in our private jazz club in Koblenz , Germany with this group

  Valery Ponomarev, Dave Schnitter, Bobby Watson, James Williams and Dennis Irwin . It was a marvellous concert

 

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Interesting timing - might have been late 1979 or into 1980 that I saw the group at Ronnie’s. Not entirely sure if it was Ponamarev on trumpet or Bill Hardman on a return stint but the rest of the group were as listed. Wish I had kept a diary !  Thinking about it, I can always check the gig report in Jazz Journal.

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Another nice LP from the Messengers from my Collection is "Dr. Jekyll".

I wanted to post the pic, but get the message "you are only allowed to….." and even when I made it smaller I got the same damn message. 

 

Anyway: It´s a live date of the mid 80´s Messengers with Terence Blanchard and Donald Harrison. 

And because we discussing our live experiences, I saw the Messengers again in 1983 with that Blanchard-Harrison Tandem plus Jean Toussaint, only it still wasn´t Mulgrew Miller on piano, it was a fine piano player named "O´Neill" if I remember right, and had a nice piano feature on a Ballad Medley also, I think he did a very original Version of the otherwise rather overplayed "Summertime".

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Saw that version of the Messengers in early 1983 (Feb?) too. It was Johnny O’Neill on piano, who plays very regularly these days at SMALLS and Mezzrow. Jean Toussaint liked the UK so much that he stayed, much to the benefit of the local scene.

The lineup I saw before that had Wynton and Branford.

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It was in 1984, I think, on two consecutive nights--Terrence Blanchard as musical director, with Jean Toussaint, Donald Harrison, Mullgrew Miller, and Lonnie Plaxico. Marchel Ivery sitting in on tenor at the end of the second set (with Donald Harrison and jean Toussaint looking taken aback that Marchel got more applause than they did).

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56 minutes ago, kh1958 said:

It was in 1984, I think, on two consecutive nights--Terrence Blanchard as musical director, with Jean Toussaint, Donald Harrison, Mullgrew Miller, and Lonnie Plaxico. Marchel Ivery sitting in on tenor at the end of the second set (with Donald Harrison and jean Toussaint looking taken aback that Marchel got more applause than they did).

Having seen Marchel Ivery live twice, I can understand the applause. He played great those two times that I saw him.

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