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What vinyl are you spinning right now??

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On 9.3.2021 at 10:34 PM, HutchFan said:

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Charles Lloyd Quartet - Montreux 82 (Elektra Musician)
with Michel Petrucciani, Palle Danielsson, and Sonship Theus

Superb Rhythm Section ....

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On 9.3.2021 at 10:34 PM, HutchFan said:

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Charles Lloyd Quartet - Montreux 82 (Elektra Musician)
with Michel Petrucciani, Palle Danielsson, and Sonship Theus

 

I saw exactly this group in july 1983 at Wiesen Jazz Festival and have this Elektra Musician Album also. 

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Ask the Ages: the 2x45rpm set from Hive Mind. 

Sound is excellent. Read some poor reviews on discogs and the VMP subreddit but I don't find any faults with this mastering or pressing because I get totally lost in the music when I play this. It says "Play Loud" on the cover, and indeed that is good advice. 

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3 minutes ago, Dub Modal said:

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Ask the Ages: the 2x45rpm set from Hive Mind. 

Sound is excellent. Read some poor reviews on discogs and the VMP subreddit but I don't find any faults with this mastering or pressing because I get totally lost in the music when I play this. It says "Play Loud" on the cover, and indeed that is good advice. 

Echoes of Tony Williams' (turn it over) !!!  ;) 

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1 minute ago, HutchFan said:

Echoes of Tony Williams' (turn it over) !!!  ;) 

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Tony = always crankable! :tup

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1 hour ago, Dub Modal said:

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Ask the Ages: the 2x45rpm set from Hive Mind. 

Sound is excellent. Read some poor reviews on discogs and the VMP subreddit but I don't find any faults with this mastering or pressing because I get totally lost in the music when I play this. It says "Play Loud" on the cover, and indeed that is good advice. 

Mine sounds great. I have had no issues with the Hive Mind pressing.

The VMP reissue is different -- original cover art, red vinyl, 33 1/3 rpm rather than 2x 45. 

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1 minute ago, clifford_thornton said:

The VMP reissue is different -- original cover art, red vinyl, 33 1/3 rpm rather than 2x 45. 

Yep. I just don't get some of the heat this Hive Mind set got from the VMP reddit page in terms of SQ critique. Would've loved to have gotten a copy of that 33 too with the original cover. 

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ah gotcha. reddit is not really the place I would go for record talk; I get the feeling that a lot of people in those threads are new to the format and often don't have the right equipment. Just a hunch, however. 

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An Impex reissue. Excellent sound. 

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47 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said:

ah gotcha. reddit is not really the place I would go for record talk; I get the feeling that a lot of people in those threads are new to the format and often don't have the right equipment. Just a hunch, however. 

For sure, agreed 100%. It's just that the sentiment expressed there kind of made the rounds to where it seemed consensus was that Hive Mind's efforts were low quality which I just don't think is true. I'm hoping VMP reissues that 33. this is one title that I would double dip for on LP. 

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gotta ask...why would you want to hear Ask The Ages on vinyl? Especially on 45?

You do indeed play it loud/VERY loud (at least I do...). All the more reason to keep it digital, imo.

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5 minutes ago, JSngry said:

gotta ask...why would you want to hear Ask The Ages on vinyl?

I got the VMP issue. For one thing, though I still have a lot of CDs, I only listen to them in the car these days. I don't even have a CD player hooked up to my home stereo. I only listen to vinyl at home.

Second, the album isn't currently in print on CD, so if you want a new physical copy, vinyl it is. Or be prepared to spend more than a new LP costs for a used CD.

I live in an apartment, so I'm limited in how loud I can actually play it. But the VMP press sounds fine to me at moderate levels. I haven't heard the Hive Mind version, but the plusses of the VMP for me were 33 1/3 rpm (less flipping) and the original cover art. I could care less about colored vinyl, but the red does look nice.

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15 minutes ago, JSngry said:

gotta ask...why would you want to hear Ask The Ages on vinyl? Especially on 45?

You do indeed play it loud/VERY loud (at least I do...). All the more reason to keep it digital, imo.

My own personal aesthetic preference for the music on the album I guess. Doesn't happen like that all the time, and even though there's a digital step on this one vinyl just seems to fit. 

And I love 45s. Used to DJ, have a lot of reggae and hip hop 12" & 7" singles and so flipping 45s doesn't bother me. If I really like what I'm playing I can't sit down anyway (which annoys the hell out of my dog). 

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I love the dynamic range that the digital provides for this one. Playing it log/VERY loud is a beautiful thing when it doesn't push back.

Had no idea that the CD was no longer in print. That sucks, and should never have been allowed to have occurred..Where are the laws in this country, anyway?

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8 minutes ago, JSngry said:

I love the dynamic range that the digital provides for this one. Playing it log/VERY loud is a beautiful thing when it doesn't push back.

Had no idea that the CD was no longer in print. That sucks, and should never have been allowed to have occurred..Where are the laws in this country, anyway?

The CD can be had for around $20 these days. I think these vinyl reissues may have brought its price back down to reality, especially because Laswell also offers it as a download at his bandcamp page for $9. 

Now, there's also a cassette of it. that would be interesting. Probably not as crankable I'd guess. 

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Still got my CD version, which I think is the Canadian Axiom issue.

In other news.... not yet on my deck but this nugget from Sam Records is on its way from Paris...

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1 hour ago, Brad said:

An Impex reissue. Excellent sound. 

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Some years ago a local store (now no more) had an original Philips copy for £5. One mark on it, which would probably have been OK. Like an idiot, I passed. Needless to say next time I was in the store it was gone.

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24 minutes ago, sidewinder said:

Still got my CD version, which I think is the Canadian Axiom issue.

In other news.... not yet on my deck but this nugget from Sam Records is on its way from Paris...

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Mine's waiting for the Harper to be released and accompany it 

28 minutes ago, Dub Modal said:

Laswell also offers it as a download at his bandcamp page for $9. 

Thanks, just listening now. $9 or £50 for the VMP... decisions, decisions :rolleyes:

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On 8.3.2021 at 7:38 AM, Gheorghe said:

Great stuff, I purchased this on those BN LA Series (double albums with brown paper bag cover). Very fine and swinging stuff. 

Re Montomery brothers with WES. Have a second one which is also of the same calibre. Is that also on your Blue Note reissue of the Pacific Jazz label?

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