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On 12.2.2022 at 10:27 PM, Brad said:

Terrific double lp set of various artists playing bebop icons, e.g., Sadik Hakim plays Bird, Al Haig plays Dizzy, Barry Harris plays Monk, etc. 

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I have seen that cover often but I must admit it seemed I missed that when it was out. Was that in the late 70´s. I think I missed it than, since I didn´t buy albums with different musicians (I had a sampler-phobia) but this is not really a sampler. Okay, it must be nice. I´d be curious how Sadik Hakim sounds playing "Bird", since on the sides he plays with Bird he sounds very "stiff". 

I made the same mistake when I was looking for some Ornette Coleman that I didn´t have, and O.C. records were quite rare, and the dealer showed me a Charlie Haden album "The golden Number", and I didn´t buy it, because O.C. was only on part of it......now I´m sorry I didn´t buy it. 

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16 hours ago, paulfromcamden said:

Why is it only Jimmy Rowles that has legs? How will the other pianists operate the pedals? ;)

It’s definitely an odd photo with only Rowles in full body mode. 

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On 2/14/2022 at 7:18 AM, Gheorghe said:

I have seen that cover often but I must admit it seemed I missed that when it was out. Was that in the late 70´s. I think I missed it than, since I didn´t buy albums with different musicians (I had a sampler-phobia) but this is not really a sampler. Okay, it must be nice. I´d be curious how Sadik Hakim sounds playing "Bird", since on the sides he plays with Bird he sounds very "stiff". 

I made the same mistake when I was looking for some Ornette Coleman that I didn´t have, and O.C. records were quite rare, and the dealer showed me a Charlie Haden album "The golden Number", and I didn´t buy it, because O.C. was only on part of it......now I´m sorry I didn´t buy it. 

It was recorded in 1980. Hakim sounds ok to me but Walter Bishop, who also plays some Bird song, sounds better, more fluent, if that makes sense. One oddity (or so it seemed to me) on this set is that John Lewis plays himself. 

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17 hours ago, Brad said:

It was recorded in 1980. Hakim sounds ok to me but Walter Bishop, who also plays some Bird song, sounds better, more fluent, if that makes sense. One oddity (or so it seemed to me) on this set is that John Lewis plays himself. 

Well I can imagine, that "Bish" sounded more fluent. The Hakim solos I hear on some Savoy sides (Bird, Dexter) sound a bit strange. Mostly chromatic, and played in syncopes in a very stiff manner. I´m  self taught but I know that piano lessons for beginners often have chromatic exercises, and it sounds somehow like that. I´ve read somewhere that he didn´t even have a Union Card so on the Bird sides Dizzy is listed as piano player, if I remember right. 

Lewis playing "himself", well: Lewis was Lewis, and he did some very substantial compositions for the bop repertory: For example:  "Two Bass Hit" is one of the greatest sounding stuff in the Dizzy Gillespie Big Band

On the other hand, I wouldn´t have associated Jimmy Rowles so much with bop. I have him on some Dexter recording for Spotlite, I think it´s some ballads, but not much else. Considering my generation and what was it about in the 70´s, I saw his name for the first time on "Three or Four Shades of Blues" by Mingus, where he plays a short little waltz in C. Even then I wondered why they needed to get Jimmy Rowles in the studio only for that little section, since on the live versions I saw, Neloms played it, so I don´t really know why they called Rowles in the studio only for those few bars...., About the same time he was very much in demand as Ella´s pianist which he did really fine.... great mellow sounding chords...

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2 hours ago, jazzcorner said:

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Now spinning on my 'table:

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Recorded in 1961.

 

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Next up:

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Illinois Jacquet - The Cool Rage (Verve, 1982)

 

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4 hours ago, HutchFan said:

Now spinning on my 'table:

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Recorded in 1961.

 

Bassist Jimmy Woode was the first great bassist I  saw live. He came so often to Viena (I think he lived in Munich). Heard him with Griff when I was a teenie. 

George Wein All Stars was on a festival schedule here in 1985, But that was one of those festivals where you had to choose in which hall you go, like, I had to miss Lou Donaldson because at the same time was Jackie McLean in another hall, and maybe I missed George Wein since there was something else in another hall (it could have been Charlie Haden´s Liberation Orchestra or Pharoah Sanders), so I might have missed some of the more mainstream attractions.....

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18 minutes ago, Gheorghe said:

Bassist Jimmy Woode was the first great bassist I  saw live. He came so often to Viena (I think he lived in Munich). Heard him with Griff when I was a teenie. 

A true giant ....

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37 minutes ago, soulpope said:

A true giant ....

Did you see him too (Jazz by Freddy at Schottenfeldgasse) ? With Fritz Pauer Trio, and in April 78 Fritz Pauer Trio with Johnny Griffin ? 

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9 minutes ago, Gheorghe said:

Did you see him too (Jazz by Freddy at Schottenfeldgasse) ? With Fritz Pauer Trio, and in April 78 Fritz Pauer Trio with Johnny Griffin ? 

Yep .... and on several other occasions ....

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Just now, soulpope said:

Yep .... and on several other occasions ....

I have planned to write a story (a topic) about how it was there, but don´t know where (Miscellanious Music ? ) 

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11 minutes ago, Gheorghe said:

I have planned to write a story (a topic) about how it was there, but don´t know where (Miscellanious Music ? ) 

Why not .... just make sure to write it :D ....

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Pure Pleasure issue. It really sounds fantastic. I had the Harvest cd issue and a cd collector was prepared to pay 50’euros for my copy. I agreed and bought the 2 Lp set as a replacement of this fantastic record :)
 

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54 minutes ago, Pim said:

 

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Pure Pleasure issue. It really sounds fantastic. I had the Harvest cd issue and a cd collector was prepared to pay 50’euros for my copy. I agreed and bought the 2 Lp set as a replacement of this fantastic record :)
 

Pim - I think you came out on the better end of that bargain!  

I haven't yet decided whether to plop for that double-LP.  I have the CD -- but I don't have anyone waiting to buy it for $50!  :P 

 

 

8 hours ago, Gheorghe said:

I have planned to write a story (a topic) about how it was there, but don´t know where (Miscellanious Music ? ) 

Sounds great.  I'd love to hear it. :tup 

 

8 hours ago, soulpope said:

Why not .... just make sure to write it :D ....

Exactly!

 

10 hours ago, Gheorghe said:

George Wein All Stars was on a festival schedule here in 1985, But that was one of those festivals where you had to choose in which hall you go, like, I had to miss Lou Donaldson because at the same time was Jackie McLean in another hall, and maybe I missed George Wein since there was something else in another hall (it could have been Charlie Haden´s Liberation Orchestra or Pharoah Sanders), so I might have missed some of the more mainstream attractions.....

Good "problem" to have, no?  So many choices.  :) 

 

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1 hour ago, Pim said:

 

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Pure Pleasure issue. It really sounds fantastic. I had the Harvest cd issue and a cd collector was prepared to pay 50’euros for my copy. I agreed and bought the 2 Lp set as a replacement of this fantastic record :)
 

Those nice shelves are looking fuller :)

I've never quite got why 'Glass Bead Games' has the reputation it has.  I have tried to re-evaluate it so many times but to no avail. Maybe I need this edition rather than the Charly CD

I much prefer 'Clifford Jordan In The World'

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1 minute ago, mjazzg said:

I've never quite got why 'Glass Bead Games' has the reputation it has.  I have tried to re-evaluate it so many times but to no avail. Maybe I need this edition rather than the Charly CD

I much prefer 'Clifford Jordan In The World'

I am with you on these two's respective merits, although GBG has been growing on me recently.

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1 hour ago, HutchFan said:

Pim - I think you came out on the better end of that bargain!  

I haven't yet decided whether to plop for that double-LP.  I have the CD -- but I don't have anyone waiting to buy it for $50!  :P

 

Never expected to get that kind of money for it 👍 there are some records I own now on cd while I prefer a specific vinyl version. I just put the cd versions for the same price of that vinyl on Discogs. And then, with some luck….

 

19 minutes ago, mjazzg said:

Those nice shelves are looking fuller :)

I've never quite got why 'Glass Bead Games' has the reputation it has.  I have tried to re-evaluate it so many times but to no avail. Maybe I need this edition rather than the Charly CD

I much prefer 'Clifford Jordan In The World'

Haha yeah I have a strict monthly budget limit now. But birthday and Santa were very generous last year…. 

The Charly’s I own do not sound very well and I dislike their presentation. Pure Pleasure really did a great job. It sounds amazing. I like both of Jordan’s Strata East records but Glass Brad Games have a slight preference over In The World. The ‘John Coltrane’ composition is among my favorite jazz compositions and I like this version the best.

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21 minutes ago, mjazzg said:

I've never quite got why 'Glass Bead Games' has the reputation it has.  I have tried to re-evaluate it so many times but to no avail. Maybe I need this edition rather than the Charly CD

I much prefer 'Clifford Jordan In The World'

 

19 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said:

I am with you on these two's respective merits, although GBG has been growing on me recently.

 

I think GBG is terrific -- but my favorite Clifford Jordan album is Night of the Mark VII, which also includes a tremendous version of "John Coltrane."

 

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19 minutes ago, HutchFan said:

 

 

I think GBG is terrific -- but my favorite Clifford Jordan album is Night of the Mark VII, which also includes a tremendous version of "John Coltrane."

 

I don't know that one but I'm playing it now, thanks

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8 minutes ago, mjazzg said:

I don't know that one but I'm playing it now, thanks

I hope you enjoy it as much as I have. :tup 

 

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