EKE BBB Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 Didn't see the film, but I remember, maybe ten years ago, being on holiday, family holiday, near Florence, staying at friend's of our parents and watching the swiss beating the italians - which was some sort of a miracle, back then, when the swiss just again rose to the minimal international soccer-ability they still enjoy today... Pretty funny it was, for sure! ubu Mmmm, were you watching soccer? You, the one and only SOCCER-HATER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 Didn't see the film Ubu, you should have this on your must see films agenda, Right at the top. Excellent film. Probably not shown in Switzerland that often! It was really an excellent view of migrant life in Switzerland and Nino Manfredi was perfect there! And Anna Karina costarred in the film! The tone of the film was pretty harsh on the Swiss! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 Didn't see the film, but I remember, maybe ten years ago, being on holiday, family holiday, near Florence, staying at friend's of our parents and watching the swiss beating the italians - which was some sort of a miracle, back then, when the swiss just again rose to the minimal international soccer-ability they still enjoy today... Pretty funny it was, for sure! ubu Mmmm, were you watching soccer? You, the one and only SOCCER-HATER! Remember, it was when I was 14, or maybe only 12 years old... family obbligations - and it was a really boring match, too... Anyway, I find soccer boring, wouldn't it be better to follow John Heartfield's tip "Jedermann sein eigner Fussball"? ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 Didn't see the film Ubu, you should have this on your must see films agenda, Right at the top. Excellent film. Probably not shown in Switzerland that often! It was really an excellent view of migrant life in Switzerland and Nino Manfredi was perfect there! And Anna Karina costarred in the film! The tone of the film was pretty harsh on the Swiss! brownie, I think it was shown, but I missed it. Manfedi, r.i.p. The tone on the swiss ought to be harsh as far as migration policies are concerned. And it won't get better, no. Though these policies do indeed reflect people's attitudes... I do feel ashamed. ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 (edited) Anybody mentioned SPAIN 1 - RUSSIA 0 ? What a terrible match, btw! Playing that bad, semifinals (at most) is our target! We have one of the most stupid trainers ever: "Let´s keep Valerón for the last minutes" and he even states he was right because he put him in for the second half and he scored... Spain is my team (having lived in Madrid and Barcelona, and Real is also my team but don't get me started on that subject) and I saw Saturday's game and like you wasn't happy with what I saw. They had incredible energy in the first 15 minutes or so but couldn't get anything close to a good shot. The passing seemed to be off. The way they were playing they should have won 4-0. The Russians were very inexperienced so they're lucky. I don't think they'll be able to get away with that with the Greeks so let's hope they're a little better. I envy all of you with emerald green envy. Looks like I won't see any of the matches [i don't have the souped-up 300 channel cable/satellite package]. Does anyone know if maybe the Spanish language channels broadcast any of the games in the US? ESPN can just go to hell. Dmitry, I've checked and the Spanish stations don't have it. Except for a few games on Fox Sports World, it costs almost $20 a game. I think FSW will have the quarters, semis and final on tape delay, but that's it. Edited June 15, 2004 by Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 Well, that went well this evening. Best result I could imagine. Pheww. Both teams played like wet old newspapers most of the time and both the goals came out of thin air. No one really dominated the game, in phases maybe, but none would have deserved to win or loose. that Latvia-Czechia game was nothing to reanimate your dead granny about either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.L.M Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 (edited) Both teams played like wet old newspapers most of the time and both the goals came out of thin air. No one really dominated the game, in phases maybe, but none would have deserved to win or loose. that Latvia-Czechia game was nothing to reanimate your dead granny about either. Yep, seems that the so-call "death group" is especially dead boring. But, now, with this draw between the German and the Dutch it's nearly impossible to guess what teams will finish at the two first place. I can't imagine than the most dull German team ever could go throught. And, aniway, it's now possible. Edited June 15, 2004 by P.L.M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 Well, I just plunked down $20 for the Spain-Greece game. Fortunately there's a few games on FSW in the next few days and then I'm going to Europe on vacation so hopefully I'll catch the remainder there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Goren. Posted June 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 I was extremely disappointed from the 2ed game last night. Although Rod van Nistelrooy eventually delivered the goods, what we saw yesterday might not be enough for the Dutch team if they want to qualify. They still have a lot of work to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 I don't think the Dutch team will go through. The players have a lot of individual qualities, but they don't seem to be able to play as a team. I'm not a fan of manager Advocaat, who never really seems to know what he's doing and who's never won anything important with his teams (PSV Eindhoven, Rangers, the Dutch team twice), and I hope he'll go as soon as the tournament is over for the Dutch, which, again, might be pretty soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 I was expecting more from the Dutch team. And a bit less from the German team. Not a really exciting match last night and the 1-1 draw seemed fair. The championship enters the second set of group matches with Greece opposing Spain and Russia playing against Portugal. Will see if the Greek team can sustain the strength of its opening match against Portugal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 I was expecting more from the Dutch team. Not with this manager. Their preparation was disastrous and the first match was a confirmation of the poor state the team's in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Goren. Posted June 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 I was expecting more from the Dutch team. Not with this manager. Their preparation was disastrous and the first match was a confirmation of the poor state the team's in. If this is the situation, why do you think he was appointed??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 'cause nobody else wanted the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Goren. Posted June 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 'cause nobody else wanted the job Well known problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 I was expecting more from the Dutch team. Not with this manager. Their preparation was disastrous and the first match was a confirmation of the poor state the team's in. If this is the situation, why do you think he was appointed??? No idea. The ways of the Dutch FA's executives are inscrutable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 'cause nobody else wanted the job I'm not sure about that. I got the impression that Advocaat was (and perhaps still is) the Dutch FA's favourite, despite his lack of real success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcoliv Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 matchday 1 is over and i´m still recovering myself from that unexpected win against england. so far we had only poor games and i hope matchday 2 will bring us some attacking football. i think Portugal will beat Russia today (Mostovoi has been sent home) and Spain will beat Greece too. it would be fine if Greece ends on the 2nd place as they will face off the first of group B which probably will be my beloved team France... ALLEZ LES BLEUS, ALLEZ LES BLEUS, ALLEZ LES BLEUS !!!!!!!! Marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 The French are my favourites too, though I was disappointed by their performance against England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 The French players could not untangle from the English team tactics which worked wonders until the last quarter of the match. Then the French regained their confidence and team captain Zidane turned his magic on. Will wait for the other regular scorers (Thierry Henry and David Trezeguet) to lead the French team easily into the second round. But the whole team will have to play better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 The behaviour of Italian player Totti is currently being scrutinised by UEFA officials. The danish television channel DR published a sequence of pics clearly showing him spitting the Dane Christian Poulsen in the face. Tottis snotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 They should also look into Totti's vicious attack on a Danish player; he only got a yellow card, it should have been red. What a nasty player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinging Swede Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 According to Danish sources Totti actually spat on Poulsen several times during the match. A nasty player indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 A very disappointing game from Spain, to say the least. We always have to suffer these kinds of games from this team. Just like against Russia, this game should have been put away. Instead we now face the distinct possibility of going home. Greece should have an easy game against Russia, putting them through, while Spain face what will be not an easy game against Portugal. A tie is all that is needed but with a desperate host team it will not be easy. If they get through, it will only lead to more disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Goren. Posted June 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 A very disappointing game from Spain, to say the least. We always have to suffer these kinds of games from this team. Just like against Russia, this game should have been put away. Instead we now face the distinct possibility of going home. Greece should have an easy game against Russia, putting them through, while Spain face what will be not an easy game against Portugal. A tie is all that is needed but with a desperate host team it will not be easy. If they get through, it will only lead to more disappointment. The really good games start only on the quarter final with the knock out system. Few more days to suffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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