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What is the appeal the Miles since the originals are easy to find on vinyl?

This is the appeal (excerpted from the jazzmatazz site):

— Seven Steps to Heaven includes previously unreleased alternate takes of "Joshua" and two of "Seven Steps" with Feldman and a rehearsal take of "Seven Steps" with Hancock.

— Miles in Europe with the previously unissued tunes "Bye Bye Blackbird" (16'47) & "Theme" (6'06), plus the unedited versions of "Autumn Leaves" (13'55), "Joshua" (11'36) and "All of You" (16'54)

— The complete Philharmonic Hall concert (12Feb1964), with both sets complete and in performance order

— Miles in Tokyo (14Jul1964), with Sam Rivers on tenor sax

— Miles in Berlin (25Sep1964), with Wayne Shorter on tenor sax; includes a previously unissued version of "Stella by Starlight" (12'54)

— in all, set includes over an hour of previously unreleased music

plus the fact that the Mosaic treatment of the Miles sets have been in extraordinary sound (the ones that I have heardany way) and gorgeous presentation. To me, this is one of the most exciting jazz releases of the year.

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Thanks for the info.

I had a cd with other selections from the In Europe concert and they are less than steller compared to what was released by Columbia.

Out takes and rehearsal takes should stay in the vault judging from previous Miles boxes.

If you have the original releases like me and most other Miles fans there is little reason to buy this set. The Japan and Berlin sets were released in a two fer domestic album and the Japan issues are all over EBAY.

The Japan concert and the Europe album feature some quite fantastic performances by Miles and Tony in particular.

This is great music, but for most of us who have this stuff it would be a purchase not of need but of self indulgence.

In other words we will buy it after it goes out of print! ;)

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Out takes and rehearsal takes should stay in the vault judging from previous Miles boxes.

There are a wide variety of opinions about the unreleased material from the box-sets. I, for one, have been very happy with nearly all of it.

The only time I think they might have gone overboard was that very last disc in the "Miles & Gil" set (with all the disjoint takes, and repetitive takes). But other than that, I think all of the unreleased material deserved to see the light of day.

Does that mean all of it is equally valuable?? No, probably not. For instance, I've yet to get totally into much of the "Bitches Brew" set. But then people have said the very same thing about the "Jack Johnson" set --- where I'm just excited by the unreleased material there (on the "Jack Johnson" set), as with any of them!!

So it's really probably a matter of what periods in Miles' career one is the most interested in.

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Mosaic's Scott just e-mailed me that the release date of the Farmer / Golson / Jazztet Mosaic is set for early September.

This has just become "sometime in September"... :(

:o

Oh well...

I e-mailed the folks at Mosaic last night asking about the Farmer / Golson set and its hoped-for late-August release. (It seemed unlikey to happen as the set isn't even listed on the site yet.)

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GOOD NEWS! The Farmer/Golson is listed for pre-order. Reserved mine, & was informed it is scheduled for Sept. "1st-ish" release. Can't wait for this one... :excited:

Strange... Mosaic's Scott e-mailed me earlier today it'd be "sometime in September", like I posted above - though you could say "September 1st-ish" is "sometime in September", of course ;)

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For posterity:

The Complete Argo/Mercury Art Farmer/Benny Golson/Jazztet Sessions (#225)

Discography

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THE COMPLETE ARGO/MERCURY ART FARMER/BENNY GOLSON/JAZZTET SESSIONS

DISC ONE:

The Jazztet

1. Serenata (A) 3:30

(Leroy Anderson)

2. It Ain’t Necessarily So (A) 4:28

(G. Gershwin-I. Gershwin)

3. Avalon (A) 3:28

(Rose-DeSylva-Jolson)

4. I Remember Clifford (A) 3:10

(Benny Golson)

5. Blues March (A) 5:17

(Benny Golson)

6. It’s All Right With Me (A) 3:54

(Cole Porter)

7. Park Avenue Petite (A) 3:41

(Benny Golson)

8. Mox Nix (A) 4:02

(Art Farmer)

9. Easy Living (A) 3:34

(L. Robin-R. Rainger)

10. Killer Joe (A) 4:58

(Benny Golson)

11. The Cool One (B) 3:02

(Benny Golson)

12. Blues On Down (B) 6:00

(Benny Golson)

13. Hi-Fly (B) 5:50

(Randy Weston)

14. My Funny Valentine (B) 4:38

(R. Rodgers-L. Hart)

DISC TWO:

The Jazztet

1. Wonder Why (B) 5:53

(N. Brodzsky-S. Cahn)

2. Con Alma (B) 4:59

(Dizzy Gillespie)

3. Lament (B) 3:31

(J. J. Johnson)

4. Bean Bag (B) 4:52

(Benny Golson)

5. Five Spot After Dark (B) 3:18

(Benny Golson)

6. Bel (E) 4:05

(John Lewis)

7. Milano (E) 4:49

(John Lewis)

8. Django (E) 4:50

(John Lewis)

9. New York 19 (E) 7:04

(John Lewis)

10. 2 Degrees East, 3 Degrees West (E) 8:38

(John Lewis)

11. Odds Against Tomorrow (E) 11:27

(John Lewis)

DISC THREE:

The Jazztet

1. Junction (F) 5:50

(Benny Golson)

2. Farmer’s Market (F) 8:33

(Art Farmer)

3. Darn That Dream (F) 4:24

(J. Van Heusen-E. De Lange)

4. Shutterbug (F) 4:47

(J. J. Johnson)

5. ‘Round Midnight (F) 10:11

(Monk-Hanighen-Williams)

6. A November Afternoon (F) 6:14

(Tom McIntosh)

7. Tonk (H) 6:49

(Ray Bryant)

8. Rue Prevail (H) 4:25

(Art Farmer)

9. Richie’s Dilemma (H) 5:11

(Harold Mabern)

10. Whisper Not (H) 5:20

(Benny Golson)

11. Tonk (45 take) (H) 3:01

(Ray Bryant)

DISC FOUR:

The Jazztet

1. Just In Time (H) 5:24

(Comden-Green-Styne)

2. Ruby My Dear (H) 5:10

(Thelonious Monk)

3. In Love In Vain (H) 7:15

(J. Kern-L. Robin)

4. Sonny’s Back (H) 4:04

(Grachan Moncur III)

5. Sonny’s Back (45 take) (H) 2:48

(Grachan Moncur III)

6. Space Station (I) 5:14

(Grachan Moncur III)

7. Domino (I) 7:03

(Ferrari-Raye-Plante)

8. Another Git Together (I) 6:15

(P. Poindexter-J. Hendricks)

9. Along Came Betty (I) 5:29

(Benny Golson)

10. This Nearly Was Mine (I) 6:26

(R. Rodgers-O. Hammerstein)

11. Reggie (I) 4:30

(Benny Golson)

12. Another Git Together (45 take) (I) 2:55

(P. Poindexter-J. Hendricks)

DISC FIVE:

The Art Farmer Quartets

1. So Beats My Heart For You © 4:41

(Ballard-Henderson-Waring)

2. Goodbye Old Girl © 4:31

(R. Adler-J. Ross)

3. Who Cares? © 5:26

(G. Gershwin-I. Gershwin)

4. Out Of The Past © 5:17

(Benny Golson)

5. Younger Than Springtime © 5:39

(R. Rodgers-O. Hammerstein)

6. The Best Thing For You Is Me © 4:13

(Irving Berlin)

7. I’m A Fool To Want You © 5:30

(Sinatra-Herron-Wolf)

8. That Old Devil Called Love © 4:15

(A. Roberts-D. Fisher)

9. Punsu (G) 5:10

(Art Farmer)

10. The Day After (G) 2:23

(Tom McIntosh)

11. Lullaby Of The Leaves (G) 4:15

(B. Petkere-J. Young)

12. Kayin’ (G) 3:54

(Art Farmer)

13. Tonk (G) 4:35

(Ray Braynt)

14. Blue Room (G) 3:55

(R. Rodgers-L. Hart)

15. Change Partners (G) 5:20

(Irving Berlin)

16. Nobody’s Heart (G) 4:04

(R. Rodgers-L. Hart)

DISC SIX:

The Benny Golson Quartets

1. How Am I To Know? (K) 3:47

(J. King-D. Parker)

2. The Masquerade Is Over (K) 4:38

(H. Magidson-A. Wrubel)

3. Dear Kathy (K) 4:46

(Benny Golson)

4. Three Little Words (K) 4:38

(H. Ruby-B. Kalmar)

5. Turning Point (K) 3:56

(Benny Golson)

6. Stella By Starlight (K) 4:50

(V. Young-N. Washington)

7. Alone Together (K) 7:30

(H. Deitz-A. Schwartz)

8. Sock Cha (L) 7:02

(Will Davis)

9. Mad About The Boy (L) 7:16

(Noel Coward)

10. Just By Myself (L) 5:47

(Benny Golson)

11. Shades Of Stein (L) 4:30

(Benny Golson)

12. My Romance (L) 7:28

(R. Rodgers-L. Hart)

13. Just In Time (L) 5:56

(Comden-Green-Styne)

DISC SEVEN:

The Ensembles

1. You’re My Thrill (D) 1:35

(B. Lane-N. Washington)

2. My Heart Belongs To Daddy (D) 4:11

(Cole Porter)

3. The Best Thing For You Is Me (D) 2:48

(Irving Berlin)

4. Impromtune (D) 3:03

(Benny Golson)

5. Little Karin (D) 3:35

(Benny Golson)

6. Swing It (D) 4:26

(Benny Golson)

7. I Fall In Love Too Easily (D) 4:46

(J. Styne-S. Cahn)

8. Out Of This World (D) 3:50

(H. Arlen-J. Mercer)

9. The Touch (D) 5:16

(Benny Golson)

10. Time (D) 3:34

(Benny Golson)

11. Street Of Dreams (J) 4:18

(V. Young-S. Lewis)

12. Rain Check (J) 3:40

(Billy Strayhorn)

13. Rue Prevail (J) 4:07

(Art Farmer)

14. The Sweetest Sounds (J) 4:36

(Richard Rodgers)

15. My Romance (J) 4:58

(R. Rodgers-L. Hart)

16. Fly Me To The Moon (J) 2:52

(Bart Howard)

17. Naima (J) 5:22

(John Coltrane)

18. Ruby (J) 4:37

(H. Roemheld-M. Parish)

DISCOGRAPHY

For the purposes of this discography, only the original issue number is used.

(A) MEET THE JAZZTET: Art Farmer (tp), Curtis Fuller (tb), Benny Golson (ts), McCoy Tyner (p), Addison Farmer (b), Lex Humphries (d).

Nola Penthouse Studios, February 6, 9 & 10, 1960

10017 Mox Nix

10018 Blues March

10019 Killer Joe

10020 I Remember Clifford

10021 Park Avenue Petite

10022 Avalon

10023 Easy Living

10024 It’s All Right With Me

10025 Serenata

10026 It Ain’t Necessarily So

All titles issued on Argo LP 664

-1 spoken introduction by Benny Golson.

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(B) THE JAZZTET – BIG CITY SOUNDS: Art Farmer (tp), Tom McIntosh (tb), Benny Golson (ts), Cedar Walton (p), Tommy Williams (b), Albert “Tootie” Heath (d).

Nola Penthouse Studios, NYC, September 16, 19 & 20, 1960

10430 The Cool One

10431 My Funny Valentine

10432 Hi-Fly

10433 Con Alma

10434 Five Spot After Dark

10435 Blues On Down

10436 Wonder Why

10437 Bean Bag

10438 Lament

All titles issued on Argo LP 672

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© THE ART FARMER QUARTET – ART: Art Farmer (tp), Tommy Flanagan (p), Tommy Williams (b), Albert “Tootie” Heath (d).

Nola Penthouse Studios, NYC, September 21,22 & 23, 1960

10439 I’m A Fool To Want You

10440 Out Of The Past

10441 That Old Devil Called Love

10442 The Best Thing For You Is Me

10443 So Beats My Heart For You

10444 Goodbye, Old Girl

10445 Younger Than Springtime

10446 Who Cares?

All titles issued on Argo LP 678

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(D) BENNY GOLSON – TAKE A NUMBER FROM 1 TO 10: Benny Golson (ts).

Nola Penthouse Studios, NYC, December 13, 1960

10575 You’re My Thrill

add Tommy Williams (b):

10576 My Heart Belongs To Daddy

add Albert “Tootie” Heath (d):

10577 The Best Thing For You Is Me

add Cedar Walton (p):

10578 Impromptune

Freddie Hubbard (tp), Benny Golson (ts), Cedar Walton (p), Tommy Williams (b), Albert “Tootie” Heath (d).

Nola Penthouse Studios, NYC, December 14, 1960

10579 Little Karin

add Curtis Fuller (tb):

10580 Swing It

add Sahib Shihab (bari):

10581 I Fall In Love Too Easily

Nick Travis (tp),Bill Elton (tb), Willie Ruff (Frh), Benny Golson, Hal McKusick (ts), Sol Schlinger (bari), Tommy Williams (b), Albert “Tootie” Heath (d).

Nola Penthouse Studios, NYC, April 11, 1961

10582 Out Of This World

add Bernie Glow (tp):

10583 The Touch

add Art Famer (tp):

10584 Time

all titles issued on Argo LP 68

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(E) THE JAZZTET & JOHN LEWIS: Art Farmer (tp), Tom McIntosh (tb), Benny Golson (ts), Cedar Walton (p), Tommy Williams (b), Albert “Tootie” Heath (d), John Lewis (arr).

Nola Penthouse Studios, NYC, December 20-21, 1960 & January 9, 1961

10626 Django

10627 Milano

10628 Bel

10629 Two Degrees East, Three Degrees West

10630 New York 19

10631 Odds Against Tomorrow

All titles issued on Argo LP 684

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(F) THE JAZZTET AT BIRDHOUSE: Art Farmer (tp, flh), Tom McIntosh (tb), Benny Golson (ts), Cedar Walton (p), Tommy Williams (b), Albert “Tootie” Heath (d).

Live at Birdhouse, Chicago, May 15, 1961

11208 Junction

11209 Farmer’s Market

11210 Darn That Dream

11211 Shutterbug

11212 ‘Round Midnight

11213 A November Afternoon

all titles issued on Argo LP 688

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(G) THE ART FARMER QUARTET - PERCEPTION: Art Farmer (flh), Harold Mabern (p), Tommy Williams (b), Roy McCurdy (d).

Nola Penthouse Studios, NYC, October 25, 26 & 27, 1961

11423 Blue Room

11424 Tonk

11425 Change Partners

11426 Nobody’s Heart

11427 Punsu

11428 The Day After

11429 Lullaby Of The Leaves

11430 Kayin’

All titles issued on Argo LP 738

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(H) THE JAZZTET-HERE AND NOW: Art Farmer (tp,flh), Grachan Moncur III (tb), Benny Golson (ts), Harold Mabern (p), Herbie Lewis (b), Roy McCurdy (d).

Nola Penthouse Studios, NYC, February 28, 1962

23789 (PB7405) Just In Time

23790 (PB7406) Rue Prevail

23791 (PB7407) Ruby My Dear

23792 (PB7408) In Love In Vain (omit tb)

Nola Penthouse Studios, NYC, March 2, 1962

23793 (PB7409) Sonny’s Back

23793 (6252-5) Sonny’s Back (45 take) Mercury 71942

23974 (PB7410) Whisper Not

23975 (PB7411) Richie’s Dilemma

23976 (PB7412) Tonk

23796 (6251-6) Tonk (45 take) Mercury 71942

Al titles except the 45 takes of Sonny’s Back and Tonk issued on Mercury SR 60698

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(I) THE JAZZTET – ANOTHER GIT TOGETHER: Art Farmer (tp,flh), Grachan Moncur III (tb), Benny Golson (ts), Harold Mabern (p), Herbie Lewis (b), Roy McCurdy (d).

Nola Penthouse Studios, NYC, May 28, 1962

26806 (PB 8162) Reggie

25545 (PB 8213) Another Git Together (45 take) Mercury 72029

25547 (PB 8215) This Nearly Was Mine

Nola Penthouse Studios, NYC, June 21,1962

25556 (PB 8223) Domino

25563 (PB 8224) Another Git Together

25564 (PB 8225) Space Station

25565 (PB 8226) Along Came Betty

All titles except the 45 take of Another Git Together issued on Mercury SR 60737

NOTE: The 45 version of Space Station on Mercury 72029 was given the master numbers 26160 (PB 8251), but is edited from the master take.

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(J) LISTEN TO ART FARMER AND THE ORCHESTRA: Art Farmer (flh) with (collective personnel) Ray Copeland, Rolf Ericson, Bernie Glow, Ernie Royal, Paul Serrano, Clark Terry, Snooky Young (tp), Jimmy Cleveland, Urbie Green, Tommy Mitchell (tb), Paul Faulise, Tony Studd (b tb), Ray Alonge, Jimmy Buffington. Bob Northern (Frh), Danny Bank, Ray Beckenstein, Phil Bodner, Walt Levinsky, Romeo Penque, Stan Webb, Phil Woods (reeds), Tommy Flanagan (p), Barry Galbraith, Jim Hall (g), George Duvivier (b), Charlie Persip (d), Ray Barretto, Willie Rodriguez (perc), Oliver Nelson (arr, cond).

Webster Hall, NYC, August 10, 1962

26306 (PB 8048/PS 4008) My Romance

Webster Hall, NYC, September 5, 1962

22159 (PB 8940/PS 1898) Rue Prevail

22160 (PB 8941/PS 1899) Raincheck

22161 (PB 8942/PS 1900) Street Of Dreams

Webster Hall, NYC, September 20, 1962

22230 (PB 5121/PS 1930) Fly Me To The Moon (In Other Words)

22231 (PB 5122/PS 1931) Naima

22232 (PB 5123/PS 1932) Ruby

22269 (PB 5145/PS 1954) The Sweetest Sounds

all titles issued on Mercury SR 60766

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(K) THE BENNY GOLSON QUARTET – TURNING POINT: Benny Golson (ts), Wynton Kelly (p), Paul Chambers (b), Jimmy Cobb (d).

NYC, October 30 & 31, November 1, 1962

22471 (PB 5293) Alone Together

22472 (PB 5294) Turning Point

22473 (PB 5295) Three Little Words

22474 (PB 5296) The Masquerade Is Over

22475 (PB 5297) Stella By Starlight

22476 (PB 5298) How Am I To Know?

22477 (PB 5299) Dear Kathy

all titles issued on Mercury SR 20801

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(L) THE BENNY GOLSON QUARTET - FREE: Benny Golson (ts), Tommy Flanagan (p), Ron Carter (b), Arthur Taylor (d).

The Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, December 26, 1962

12081 My Romance

12082 Just By Myself

12083 Mad About The Boy

12084 Just In Time

12085 Sock Cha

12086 Shades Of Stein

all titles issued on Argo LP 716

Original sessions produced by Hal Mooney (J), Esmond Edwards (L), Kay Norton and Jack Tracy (all others).

Recording engineer: Ron Malo (F), Ray Hall (J), unknown (K), Rudy Van Gelder (L) and Tommy Nola (all others)

Produced for release by Michael Cuscuna

Tape transfers of Mercury sessions: Ellen Fitton

Tape transfers of Argo sessions: Peter Doell

Mastered using 24-bit resolution by Malcolm Addey at the Malcolm Addey Studio, New York City

All other selections are stereo.

All tracks courtesy of The Verve Music Group.

This compilation (p)2004 Universal Music Enterprises, a Division of UMG Recordings Inc., Santa Monica, CA 90404-U.S.A. Manufactured by Universal Music Enterprises. Warning: All rights reserved. Unauthorized duplication is a violation of applicable laws.

Printed in the U.S.A. (B0002403-02)

©2004 Mosaic Records L.L.C., 35 Melrose Place, Stamford, CT 06902. All rights reserved.

Phone: 203-327-7111/Fax 203-323-3526/e-mail: info@mosaicrecords.com. Web site: www.mosaicrecords.com.

PRODUCER’S NOTE:

There are occasional instances of peak distortion and of drop out, most notably on disc one, tracks 4 and 8, disc three, track 4 and disc 4, track 6, which are the result of damage to the original tape.

This set encompasses the Argo and Mercury sessions by Art Farmer and Benny Golson separately and as co-leaders of The Jazztet. In terms of repertoire and sidemen, they are all one inter-related body of work. For musical compatibility, we have programmed the set by group. The first four discs cover the original Jazztet’s entire output. Disc five contains both of Art Farmer’s quartet sessions for Argo. Disc six contains Benny Golson’s quartet sessions, made within eight weeks of each other, but for different labels. The final disc is given over to two very different

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MAN, I WANT THIS SET.. :excited:

Now what can I sell to finance it?

The Jazztet and Farmer Verve Elites??

Nah, what time the plasma center open?

3X a week for how long....

I haven't been this excited about a set since the Turrentine, Hodges, Byrd/Adams, etc. etc. :g

The countdown begins..... :w

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Yes, I know Mosaic offers complete sets. That, I appreciate very much. But, damn, after spending nearly half-a-year's wages (or so :mellow:) on Mosaic sets already this year... 'must' Mosaic offer a new SEVEN DISK set? Naw, the Golson/Farmer set couldn't be like the more-affordable, recently-issued Gerry Mulligan Mosaic which cost 'only' $68. No, Mosaic 'must' go overboard and make the new Golson/Farmer Complete set just as complete as can be. And, yeah, Mosaic 'has' to find SEVEN DISKS worth of material to release and push the price right on up to $119.

What? I'm made out of money? Money grows on friggin' trees?

Fek! Fek you, Michael Cuscuna. butwiggle.gif

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Naw, the Golson/Farmer set couldn't be like the more-affordable, recently-issued Gerry Mulligan Mosaic which cost 'only' $68.

Now that I mention it, 'I' don't yet own the new Gerry Mulligan Mosaic either.

These recent Mosaic releases would lead a person to think Mosaic was in business to make money or something. confused2.gif

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I'll be interested to learn how this sounds....The bass on the Verve Elite "Here and Now" was barely audible. It looks like most of the sessions were recorded in the same studio as that particular session.

Malcolm Addey doing the remastering, however, is a good sign.

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