PFunkJazz Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 You put it very well, Mr Connoisseur. And Dr J: I agree, Notes from Big Sur does take a while to get going, though in a good way as you note. In that respect it reminds me a bit of the title track of Pharoah Sanders' Tauhid - without carrying the analogy any further, because I feel Lloyd's spirituality is altogether quieter and more personal than Sanders' more extrovert groove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Lloyd also steals the show at the "One Night with Blue Note" concert--was it 1985? Does anyone know which cd has "Tone Poem?" Man, that's a great song. I keep buying more Lloyd and am never disappointed. Recently picked up "Canto," and "Acoustic Masters I." The latter has Cedar Walton on piano. I highly recommend both. Is it easy to find Acoustic Masters? It seems to be out of print. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 FWIW, my old boss at Down Beat, Dan Morgenstern, told me that he went do an interview with Lloyd in his early "Love-In"/"Dream Weaver" hey-day, and when Lloyd answered the knock on the hotel room door, he said that it was too bad that Dan hadn't arrived a minute or too earlier, when Lloyd had been levitating. As I recall, Dan politely inquired further, and Lloyd explained that he meant that quite literally, that he'd been hovering a foot or two off the floor for some time that afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJ Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Lawrence Kart Posted: Sep 16 2003, 02:42 PM  FWIW, my old boss at Down Beat, Dan Morgenstern, told me that he went do an interview with Lloyd in his early "Love-In"/"Dream Weaver" hey-day, and when Lloyd answered the knock on the hotel room door, he said that it was too bad that Dan hadn't arrived a minute or too earlier, when Lloyd had been levitating. As I recall, Dan politely inquired further, and Lloyd explained that he meant that quite literally, that he'd been hovering a foot or two off the floor for some time that afternoon. You know, there are some really interesting mushrooms that grow near Big Sur... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connoisseur series500 Posted September 17, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 Is it easy to find Acoustic Masters? It seems to be out of print. Guy Not sure, Guy. Check out half.com. I'm still listening to it. Great session. Walton has his big moments as well. Wonderful music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 He is more than just Coltrane-lite. To me, Coltrane left all kinds of undeveloped ideas behind. Lloyd's music is so spiritual like Trane's. I think he carries some of Trane's ideas farther. Trane wouldn't have explored in the same direction; he was like a volcano gushing with ideas and new directions. I don't have a problem with the term "Coltrane-lite" -- considering how heavy Trane's music was, almost ANYBODY following in his footsteps would be "lite". It's not an insult to Lloyd. As you say, Lloyd has put his own creative spin on the Coltrane legacy and taken it to interesting places. Lloyd is also "Coltrane-light" in the sense that his tone is playing is much softer than Trane's. Again, not an insult at all. Does anybody else feel that his sound was a little thin on the Hyperion with Higgins / Water Is Wide sessions? It sounds much, much richer on Canto and Voice in the Night. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connoisseur series500 Posted September 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 Does anybody else feel that his sound was a little thin on the Hyperion with Higgins / Water Is Wide sessions? It sounds much, much richer on Canto and Voice in the Night. Guy Hmm, I like all those sessions. Always spiritual, it seems as if Lloyd gets more spiritual with age. "water is Wide" is my personal favorite. Of course, I love Mehldau's work on it along with "Hyperion.." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 I found a cool interview with Lloyd here. The comments about Kenny G and barbeque sauce are hilarious. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connoisseur series500 Posted October 16, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 (edited) Thanks for that interesting interview of that inimitable and sensitive genius known as Charles Lloyd! Check out the "Live" section for info on Lloyd coming to Ann Arbor. I'm there!! Edited October 17, 2003 by connoisseur series500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFunkJazz Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 Guy - thanks for posting that interview. Lloyd, rarely lost for words, was certainly on song that day. An interesting read with some worthwhile new material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 (edited) Alan Lankin's website now lists a Spring '04 release of Charles Lloyd / Billy Higgins duets on ECM. Anybody have additional info on this? Update 1/6/04: Alan's website now includes the title "Which Way Is East?" Guy Edited January 7, 2004 by Guy Berger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 Anybody out there looking for Acoustic Masters I? There are three on half.com, starting at $6.48. Snap them up now! It's a favorite of mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connoisseur series500 Posted April 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 I second that. You won't be disappointed by the cd. Great price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted April 3, 2004 Report Share Posted April 3, 2004 For something different, I recommend two experimental jazz rock albums Lloyd recorded in '71 and '72 for Kapp entitled Moonman and Warm Waters, the latter with The Beach Boys. I prefer Moonman, but they are both interesting attempts to meld the two forms of jazz and rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 A few days ago I downloaded a phenomenal Charles Lloyd recording from Sharing the Groove. It's a 1967 performance from Paris and the quartet is absolutely smoking. The music is much freer than what I've heard on Forest Flower, Love-In or Soundtrack and I only recognize a few tracks ("Piercing the Veil", "Tribal Dance", "How Can I Tell You".) Charles's tenor playing, which is erratic on some albums from this period, is really strong with some nice unaccompanied cadenzas. The collective improvs by the rhythm section are outstanding. Anyway, highly recommended! Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 Lloyd has a new quartet album titled Jumping the Creek coming out March 8th 2005. Musicians: Lloyd, Geri Allen, Robert Hurst, Eric Harland. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 Moving this to the Artist Forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Track list for Jumping the Creek: 1. Ne Me Quitte Pas (If You Go Away) 2. Ken Katta Ma Om (Bright Sun Upon You) 3. Angel Oak Revisited 4. Canon Perdido 5. Jumping The Creek 6. The Sufi's Tears 7. Georgia Bright Suite I. Pythagoras At Jeckll Island, II. Sweet Georgia Bright 8. Come Sunday 9. Both Veils Must Go 10. Song Of The Inuit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Kat Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Chico Hamilton, A Differen't Journey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 (edited) Chico Hamilton, A Differen't Journey. A very nice album. I think Ed Rhodes made an interesting comparison between this album and Jackie Mac's One Step Beyond (sub guitar for vibes). Nice placement of an apostrophe, by the way. Guy Edited February 7, 2005 by Guy Berger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Kat Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 hehe, I always thought it looked good there Chico's Different journey is very unique. Drummers probaly noticed he doesn't use the jazz ride pattern at all. Instead, he just does straight eigth notes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris olivarez Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 I liked his work with Gabor Szabo. My friends kiked this album that he did on A&M called "Geeta Suite". It was another attempt to meld jazz and rock. I still have a copy of it but i have listened to it in quite awhile because it's really beat up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Album cover for Jumping the Creek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkertown Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 (edited) I've just started wading into the Lloyd Atlantic sets. So far I've picked up: Forest Flower-original stereo pressing (minty vinyl) Love-In (4 Men With Beards pressing; ) Live at Fillmore-original stereo pressing (minty vinyl) Live in USSR-original stereo pressing (minty vinyl) I'm really diggin' what I'm hearing. Nice to hear Jarrett playing on the edge... But this morning, after reading this thread, I put on Forest Flower after hearing all the praise. I had just played the Canadian pressing of Genesis' "Spot The Pigeon" EP and forgot to change the speed from 45rpm to 33& 1/3 rpm. I thought they had all gone crazy! Jarrett's solo on the first track is wild enough at the correct speed; at 45rpm, it's out of the stratosphere! B-) Edited February 23, 2005 by Parkertown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 I've just started wading into the Lloyd Atlantic sets. So far I've picked up: Forest Flower-original stereo pressing (minty vinyl) Love-In (4 Men With Beards pressing; ) Live at Fillmore-original stereo pressing (minty vinyl) Live in USSR-original stereo pressing (minty vinyl) I'm really diggin' what I'm hearing. Nice to hear Jarrett playing on the edge... But this morning, after reading this thread, I put on Forest Flower after hearing all the praise. I had just played the Canadian pressing of Genesis' "Spot The Pigeon" EP and forgot to change the speed from 45rpm to 33& 1/3 rpm. I thought they had all gone crazy! Jarrett's solo on the first track is wild enough at the correct speed; at 45rpm, it's out of the stratosphere! B-) Jarrett was quite a little monster back in the day. One of my favorite "Jarrett with Lloyd" bits is his solo on "Autumn Leaves" (from Dream Weaver). Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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