Leeway Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 What d'yall think of the Silver release? From what I've read here and elsewhere, these albums are not among Horace's better-regarded efforts. For example, from AMG: When jazz critics complain about the decline of Blue Note in the late '60s and early '70s, Total Response is the kind of album they have in mind. A sprawling, incoherent, and just plain weird mess of funk, fusion, soul-jazz, African spirituality, and hippie mysticism, Total Response aims at the transcendent and stumbles upon its own ludicrous ambitions. Building from familiar, funky soul-jazz vamps, Silver wrote a set of nine songs that were designed to "bring a little more Health, Happiness, Love and Peace into your life." Appropriately, the album is filled with songs about the evils of the modern world ("Acid, Pot or Pills," "Big Business") and how self-awareness ("What Kind of Animal Am I?," "I'm Aware of the Animal Within Me") and open minds ("Won't You Open Up Your Senses," "Soul Searchin'," "I've Had Little Talk") can lead to spiritual peace and fulfillment ("Total Response"). All this may be true, but the way that it's said — laid-back, featureless fusion vamps with awkward lyrics by Silver ("Our water isn't pure/When fluoride we endure") that are wailed tunelessly by Salome and Andy Bey — is terribly clumsy and ridiculous. It wouldn't matter that there is "little jazz content" to the music if these fusions of soul, funk, jazz, and poetry worked, but since they fail so miserably, the lack of improvisation and inspiration from Silver, saxophonist Harold Vick, trumpeter Cecil Bridgewater, guitarist Richie Resnicoff, bassist Rob Cranshaw, and drummer Mickey Roker only emphasizes what a mess Total Response is. OTOH, there seems to be a growing appetite for "funk, fusion, soul jazz, African spirituality and hippie mysticism," and it's hard to think that Horace and Harold Vick together can be all that bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 I'll pick up the Hill on Day #1, for sure, cuz you all know what a nut I am about his music. And I've never heard the Jack Wilson, so that's a serious must-buy on Day #1 for me too (especially since Lee Morgan's on there!!) The others are a combination of 1) dates I already have on CD on Mosaics (the Sam Rivers and Larry Young), both of which I'll probably get eventually - but I'm in no rush. And 2) dates I need to hear first, before I'll pull the trigger (the Hutcherson, and especially the Horace Silvers). I'm a little curious about "Now!", but a buddy of mine has this on LP - and played a couple tracks for me once -- and it was certainly something that I had a mixed reaction to (to put it mildly). And the on-line samples I've heard of a few cuts from the Horace Silvers makes me very skittish about ever buying over two hours of that material, which I doubt I would listen to all that often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 I've got the Jack Wilson on a Toshiba LP. Never been totally bowled over with this session but will have to give it another spin and a second chance.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 Hmmm...I just realized the wife's out of town the latter part of October. Might be time for one of those budget buster orders anyway...get a big box in the house and mixed into the CD shelves before she gets back... You devil, you! (It's like this man is my twin!) I'll probably only get the Wilson, for now. (Much easier to hide.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templejazz Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 Hmmm....Have the Hill via a burn; LOVE IT and will probably get the legit copy. Same for the Wilson which has some great playing. The Rivers I have on the Mosaic but I love the cover so I may pick it up for that and the sound if it's improved by any great deal. What's the Hutcherson all about? I'm very intrigued. Best regards, Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 Anyone know what will be included in the Hill Mosaic Select box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 (edited) Anyone know what will be included in the Hill Mosaic Select box? Link: LOOK HERE... Edited September 6, 2004 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 I say, look here old bean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 I wonder if the Hutcherson album is anything like "Lift Every Voice". If so, I won't be needing it. I wish that the voices on the Hill were overdubbed, and that the tape without the voices still existed, as there are some good instrumental bits. That tape could then be issued (remastered by RVG of course ) with the title "Lift Every". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 I'm sort of hoping that the sessions with voices ARE like those that have been released. . . I really really dig them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris olivarez Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 I'm forking over for the Horace Silver. The Hutcherson,Young and Wilson ones also look interesting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 I've got the Wilson so I'll skip that and I've got the Rivers Mosaic. I'll probably get the Larry Young, skip the Hill and maybe get the Silver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connoisseur series500 Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 skip the Hill and maybe get the Silver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 skip the Hill and maybe get the Silver. Not a huge Hill fan. Just like you don't like Bud, I more or less get the same reaction from Andrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 Does anyone know if these will be copy protected? This is something I fear every time a new batch of Blue Notes is announced. I hesitate to pre-order as a result. Thanks, Bertrand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
street singer Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 Does anyone know if these will be copy protected? This is something I fear every time a new batch of Blue Notes is announced. I hesitate to pre-order as a result. Thanks, Bertrand. Well, you could always wait until they're released. I believe that CDUniverse honors the pre-release price for up to a week after an item's release. Correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 (edited) Edited September 20, 2004 by Chaney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeway Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Oh man, those covers get me! What a great batch of albums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 I have the Rivers and Young Mosaics. I have the Wilson on Japanese LP and all the Silvers on US LP - might get me the latter, anyway. Will get the Hill for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 Man, I love that new cover for the Hill. Sweet!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsgtrane Posted September 22, 2004 Report Share Posted September 22, 2004 (edited) I kinda liked this Hill DWD cover which I had dug up way back when. I love this session. Can't understand why it took so long to make it to CD. Edited September 22, 2004 by dsgtrane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connoisseur series500 Posted September 22, 2004 Report Share Posted September 22, 2004 Man, I love that new cover for the Hill. Sweet!!! Almost as good as Couw's... B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted September 22, 2004 Report Share Posted September 22, 2004 Man, I love that new cover for the Hill. Sweet!!! Almost as good as Couw's... B-) yeah, but just almost... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Posted October 3, 2004 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 So, how are they? "Dance with death" especially, the most awaited Blue Note reissue of all times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted October 3, 2004 Report Share Posted October 3, 2004 Man, I love that new cover for the Hill. Sweet!!! Much better - and much more BN - than the original LT one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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