reg Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 (link to CD) DISC 1: 1. Bopera 2. What Is This Thing Called Love? 3. Body And Soul 4. Back Breaker DISC 2: 1. Bopland 2. Bop After Hour 3. Hunt, The DISC 3: 1. Perdido 2. Blow, Blow, Blow 3. Jeronimo noticed this 3CD set is coming out September 21st. anyone know if this is the complete concert? i've heard about half these tracks before and just loved them. dexter is great and it was my introduction to hampton hawes. any thoughts on this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBop Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 July 7, 1947 sides with Wardell Gray (with or without Dex) Hunt (1)(Rocks & Shoals) Hunt (2)(Rocks & Shoals) Hunt (3)(Rocks & Shoals) Hunt (4)(Rocks & Shoals) Hunt (5)(Rocks & Shoals) Hunt (6)(Rocks & Shoals) Hunt (7)(Rocks & Shoals) Hunt (8)(Rocks & Shoals) Disorder at the Border (1)(Bopera) Disorder at the Border (2)(Bopera) Disorder at the Border (3)(Bopera) Disorder at the Border (4)(Bopera) Disorder at the Border (5)(Bopera) Disorder at the Border (6)(Bopera) Disorder at the Border (7)(Bopera) Backbreaker (1)(Rifftide) Backbreaker (2)(Rifftide) Backbreaker (3)(Rifftide) Backbreaker (4)(Rifftide) Backbreaker (5)(Rifftide) Backbreaker (6)(Rifftide) Byas-A-Drink (1)(Bopland) Byas-A-Drink (2)(Bopland) Byas-A-Drink (3)(Bopland) Byas-A-Drink (4)(Bopland) Byas-A-Drink (5)(Bopland) Byas-A-Drink (6)(Bopland) Cherokee (1) (Jeronimo) Cherokee (2) (Jeronimo) Cherokee (3) (Jeronimo) Cherokee (4) (Jeronimo) Cherokee (5) (Jeronimo) Cherokee (6) (Jeronimo) Cherokee (7) (Jeronimo) Cherokee (8) (Jeronimo) Blow, Blow, Blow (1) Blow, Blow, Blow (2) Blow, Blow, Blow (3) Blow, Blow, Blow (4) I'll try to provide more if I can get my hands on my discography. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBop Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Thoughts: This has been reissued more times than anything else in my collection. Without even trying, I would guess I've accumulated ten versions of most of the concert. It's fine stuff; something of a period piece, as this was one of several concerts/series of concerts that popped up to mimic or take advantage of the JATP phenomenon. But Dex and Wardell were a great pair. Special. You'll want to ensure you're getting the most complete transcriptions possible, as many were severely and crudely edited to excise various solos, for instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Savoy is reissuing this so I hope the transfers are good. I probably have these in a few versions but I need to check to be sure. Might be a worthwhile pickup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 On the other hand, if Keepnews is still in charge of their reissues-----SOMETHING WILL BE MISSING. I'm still pissed about the Mobley/Byrd/ Morgan Hard Bop package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 I have the three "Jazz Concert West Coast" cds that Savoy/Denon released a decade back. . . . my guess is they'll have found somthing new to add to this stew. . . (?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ariceffron Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 THIS CONCERT IS HELLA GOOD. I LOVE THAT CD. I NEED MOST OF THOSE SONGS FROM THAT SET. THE CD I HAVE IS JAZZ WEST COAST VOL 2 FEATURING CHEROKEE AND BYAS A DRINK (PHAT). I HAVE THE DEX PROPER SET WHICH HAS DISORDER AT THE BOARDER AND A FEW OTHERS I BELIEVE---WARDELL SOUNDS SO GODAMN SOULFUL ON BYAS A DRINK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 On the other hand, if Keepnews is still in charge of their reissues-----SOMETHING WILL BE MISSING. I'm still pissed about the Mobley/Byrd/ Morgan Hard Bop package. What's the problem with Keepnews, anyway? Isn't it in his interest to do a GOOD job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alankin Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 (edited) (link to CD)  DISC 1:  1. Bopera  2. What Is This Thing Called Love?  3. Body And Soul  4. Back Breaker   DISC 2:  1. Bopland  2. Bop After Hour  3. Hunt, The   DISC 3:  1. Perdido  2. Blow, Blow, Blow  3. Jeronimo noticed this 3CD set is coming out September 21st. anyone know if this is the complete concert? i've heard about half these tracks before and just loved them. dexter is great and it was my introduction to hampton hawes. any thoughts on this one? I just received the Bopland set. I've only heard a part of the first disc on my PC; sounds pretty good so far. Reissue was produced by Dan Marx; notes by Maxine Gordon. (Keepnews isn't mention.) Notes as posted on Jazzmatazz: -- July 6, 1947 Los Angeles concert with Wardell Gray, Howard Mcghee, Sonny Criss, a.o. -- researched and annotated by Maxine Gordon -- reissue produced by Dan Mark; engineering by Paul Reid III -- music transferred from the original 16" transcription acetates; pitch corrected -- includes about 25 minutes of previously unreleased music -- groups included the Howard McGhee Orchestra, the Bill Moore Orchestra, the Bopland Boys and the Al Killian Orchestra -- other musicians include Trummy Young, Hampton Hawes, Russ Freeman, Barney Kessel, Red Callender, Roy Porter I've updated and added times to the track listings: DISC 1: 1. Tune-up/announcement - 2'44 2. Bopera (aka Disorder at the Border) 19'18 3. What Is This Thing Called Love? 13'35 4. Body And Soul 1'31 [previously unreleased] 5. Back Breaker 16'22 DISC 2: 1. Tune-up/announcement - 2'09 2. Bopland (aka Byas-A-Drink) - 19'07 3. Bop After Hours (aka After Hours Bop) - 18'28 [part 4 (Red Callender bass solo) previously unreleased] 4. The Hunt (aka Rocks 'n' Shoals) - 18'08 DISC 3: 1. Perdido- 20'21 [parts 2 & 3 previously unreleased] 2. Merry Go Round Blues - 0'12 [previously unreleased] 3. Blowin' with Bass - 5'04 [previously unreleased] 4. Blow, Blow, Blow - 14'00 5. Geronimo (aka Cherokee) - 21'21 6. Unknown Theme take 1 - 0'51 [previously unreleased] 7. Unknown Theme take 2 0'53 [previously unreleased] (And then there's The Complete Prestige Recordings, which I've just noticed have been listed on CD Universe, but that's for another discussion, I suppose.) Edited September 18, 2004 by alankin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 I really like this cd. Though not all the music is great it's a terrific evocation of an era. Maxine Gordon's liner notes are fascinating but I'm not sure that this set should have been released under her late husband's name. If anyone still argues that the boppers couldn't play the blues make them listen to Bop After Hours. The revelation for me here is Barney Kessel: His solos are consistently great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJ Posted January 1, 2005 Report Share Posted January 1, 2005 This is a fantastic reissue for those of us who don't already have it umpteen times (only a small duplication for me, with the edited down stuff on side 4 of the old LONG TALL DEXTER Savoy 2 LP set). Nice coincidence that I've just been rereading Ted Gioia's WEST COAST JAZZ lately, saw this in the store the day after I read the passages about this concert! Sound quality is better than I expected, although certainly not pristine. I'm most enjoying hearing more Wardell Gray, thus far my collection is light on his work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 I'm most enjoying hearing more Wardell Gray, thus far my collection is light on his work. Though I'll probably get dumped on by some members of this group for recommending it there's a real good Proper 4 cd box devoted to Wardell. (And it only costs about $20.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBop Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 Wardell. Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pryan Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 I bought this from a board member a few months ago and like it quite a bit. Haven't really listened to it enough yet, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjazz Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 BOPland (3CD) is available thru BMG for $12.24 with this code L7P1 (not sure when this code expires). 65% off with free shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 At that price it's a steal! And, contrary to other Keepnews produced Savoy reissues, this really has all there is! A cornerstone of California bebop - you won't get any more or better 1940's Dexter or Wardell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Also now available at yourmusic.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Moments Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Late to the party - but enjoying this music!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Thanks for bringing this back, Evan. I have the Savoy Jazz 'The hunt' twofer. Wasn't aware there was a complete edition. Do any of the tracks on the CD feature Wild Bill Moore? If so, I'd better get this. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Yes, the Wild Bill Moore Orchestra is included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Righto, Ken. Thanks. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Beat Steve Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 (edited) Yes, the Wild Bill Moore Orchestra is included. To be more specific: What Is This Thing Called Love (excerpts issued as Unfinished Bopera) Perdido (excerpts issued as Wild Bill) Merry Go Round Blues (unissued) Blowin' For Bass (unissued) Am just trying to make up my mind now if I'm going to make it hard on myself and listen to the music piecemeal (like they did way back...) Edited April 29, 2013 by Big Beat Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Thanks Steve. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesnik Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 This has been reissued more times than anything else in my collection. Though the material is very good, it contains a zillion alternates, which I'm not so fond of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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