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#31 Matthew

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Posted 05 October 2004 - 09:53 AM

One duo disk that I really enjoy is: Anthony Braxton - Georg Grawe duo [amsterdam] 1991. Braxton and Grawe feed each other ideas and allow space for those ideas to flower. I'm beginning to enjoy the duets and solo work by Braxton; they seem to give him more room to explore than his larger group work.

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Posted 05 October 2004 - 12:07 PM

If you want to try to listen to GTM, get the followings:

- TWO COMPOSITIONS (TRIO) 1998 (LEO)
- FOUR COMPOSITIONS (GTM) 2000 (DELMARK)

I didn't like much the GTM concept until I heard those two master pieces.
Now, I start to dig even older stuff that I couldn't stand before!

Spoken about solos or duets, there is a little gem who is much ignoring by most.
Title is ANTHONY BRAXTON/ STEWART GILLMORE DUO: 14 COMPOSITIONS (TRADITIONAL) 1996 (LEO).

All of those who can't imagine to listen to BRAXTON if not playing standards, try this one.
It comes from the same family but dealing with older material (KANSAS CITY BLUES, DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO MISS NEW ORLEANS?, I'M GONNA SIT RIGHT DOWN AND WRITE MYSELF A LETTER, SOMEDAY YOU'LL BE SORRY, THE MEMPHIS BLUES, etc.)

STUART GILLMORE was one of his student. He plays many differents instruments who goes, here, from flute, trombone, euphonium & sousaphone to alto sax, cornet and piano.

To give you an idea how the music they play sound, think about the duet between KONITZ & MARSHALL BROWN doing STRUTTIN' WITH SOME BARBECUE on THE LEE KONITZ DUETS (MILESTONE). Multiply it by fourteen and add just a bit of free form solo here & there and you have it.

Of course, BRAXTON has never been better than in his solo performance, some of his duets (MAX ROACH, GEORGE LEWIS, EVAN PARKER) and with his great quartet (one the greatest jazz/improv combo ever) of the eighties (MARYLIN CRISPELL,
GERRY HEMINGWAY and MARK DRESSER) known today as the CLASSIC QUARTET.

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 12:37 PM

Does anyone know what his current quintet is? Have just got tickets to a concert at the Barbican in London for a fantastic looking double bill: Cecil Taylor/Bill Dixon/Tony Oxley + the Anthony Braxton Quintet.

Any help appreciated!

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 01:59 PM

I've been avoiding the Braxton plays Standards disks, but I'm intertested in hearing him with a guitar player.

You might want to try the CIMP discs doing the music of Andrew Hill and Wayne Shorter, which also feature O'Neil. Of the two, my favorite is Nine Compositions (Hill) 2000. I think those two are similar to Braxton's renditions of standards on the 4 CD Leo box.

I think I'll go by Downtown Music Gallery and have them play me some cuts. Thanks.

A friend is going to loan me a copy.

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 10:00 PM

Does anyone know what his current quintet is? Have just got tickets to a concert at the Barbican in London for a fantastic looking double bill: Cecil Taylor/Bill Dixon/Tony Oxley + the Anthony Braxton Quintet.

Any help appreciated!

I'll want a report on that! The released concert by the CT/BD/TO band from Victoriaville is pretty disappointing, but maybe the band's gelled subsequently. No idea what Braxton's quintet is though. Perhaps some form of the 23 Standards band with an extra instrument? A guess.

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Posted 08 October 2004 - 12:23 PM

Nate Dorward Posted on Oct 7 2004, 10:00 PM
  QUOTE (Red @ Oct 7 2004, 12:37 PM)
Does anyone know what his current quintet is? Have just got tickets to a concert at the Barbican in London for a fantastic looking double bill: Cecil Taylor/Bill Dixon/Tony Oxley + the Anthony Braxton Quintet.

Any help appreciated! 


I'll want a report on that! The released concert by the CT/BD/TO band from Victoriaville is pretty disappointing, but maybe the band's gelled subsequently. No idea what Braxton's quintet is though. Perhaps some form of the 23 Standards band with an extra instrument? A guess. 


Will be happy to report back! It's not for a month or so, but I'm definitely looking forwards to it.

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Posted 09 October 2004 - 11:06 AM

just heard my first braxton, "3 compositions of new jazz" and i was blown away! :excited:

and look who gets credit for supervision, our own chuck nessa!!!! :lol:

now i need some help. which AB doi buy next?!!!! :blink:

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Posted 09 October 2004 - 11:24 AM

too late! ijust ordered "for alto". :P

hope it's good. :w

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Posted 09 October 2004 - 11:27 AM

just heard my first braxton, "3 compositions of new jazz" and i was blown away! :excited:

and look who gets credit for supervision, our own chuck nessa!!!! :lol:

now i need some help. which AB doi buy next?!!!! :blink:

If you do vinyl, look for some Arista LPs. If not, grab the Hat stuff that's currently available, as well as whatever Black Saint stuff you can find.

One Black Saint that I like in particualr, but would never really "recommend" to anybody, is COMPOSITION NO. 173. It's a futuristic, "sci-fi" almost, one act play dealing with a group of people trying alter physical and mental reality through the science of sound/accoustical manipulation. There's incidental music, but it's mostly spoken/sung word/sound. As a listening experience for all but the most die-hard Braxtonphile, I fear it might go on too long, but as a concept, as a look into what's REALLY going on inside Braxton's head, I find it pretty intriguing.

But nevertheless, Black Saint and Hat both are repositories of many, MANY classic Braxton performances that will serve well to further one's interest in this particualr artist's massive body of work.

Go there!

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Posted 09 October 2004 - 11:35 AM

But nevertheless, Black Saint and Hat both are repositories of many, MANY classic Braxton performances that will serve well to further one's interest in this particualr artist's massive body of work.

Go there!

i will! thanks! :excited:

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Posted 09 October 2004 - 12:01 PM

http://www.cybermusicsurplus.com has historically been a good source for Black Saint/Soul Note CDs at good prices. I haven't looked at them in a while, but it wouldn't hurt to start there.

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Posted 09 October 2004 - 12:06 PM

Just looked at the site mentoned above. Never mind.

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Posted 09 October 2004 - 01:01 PM

too late! ijust ordered "for alto". :P

hope it's good. :w

One I don't have.....must buy, must buy....

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Posted 09 October 2004 - 01:08 PM

If you do vinyl, look for some Arista LPs. If not, grab the Hat stuff that's currently available, as well as whatever Black Saint stuff you can find.


The Arista deserves a Mosaic box.
:tup for the Hat discs.


One Black Saint that I like in particualr, but would never really "recommend" to anybody, is COMPOSITION NO. 173. It's a futuristic, "sci-fi" almost, one act play dealing with a group of people trying alter physical and mental reality through the science of sound/accoustical manipulation. There's incidental music, but it's mostly spoken/sung word/sound. As a listening experience for all but the most die-hard Braxtonphile, I fear it might go on too long, but as a concept, as a look into what's REALLY going on inside Braxton's head, I find it pretty intriguing.


Composition No 174 is like that too. I heard it a few days ago but while I feel I should closer listen, I can understnad why it's only the 2nd time I've heard it.

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Posted 09 October 2004 - 02:43 PM

Discography here. Someone put a lot of work into this.

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Posted 09 October 2004 - 02:59 PM

Anthony Braxton - For Two Pianos (Arista) w/Frederic Rzewski and Ursula Oppens (p, zither, melodica)

Classical, but with an avant edge.

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Posted 14 October 2004 - 10:26 AM

Anthony Braxton - Composition N.96 (Leo)

For 37 piece orchestra!

More classical, but it still sounds like Braxton with that repeating forward motion...

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Posted 14 October 2004 - 10:53 AM

wow, the dude is prolific! B-)

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Posted 14 October 2004 - 11:13 AM

wow, the dude is prolific! B-)

Yep. Hundreds.

The latest duo with Leo Smith has composition 316. And then, there are pieces like this:

SIXTEEN COMPOSITIONS (1971-1974) Second series of short compositions for the creative ensemble (see Comp. 6). This material can be interlinked in any combination and can also be integrated with material from compositions 6, 40, and 69.


he counts as one - Composition 23.

...so the amount far more than 316!

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Posted 15 October 2004 - 12:45 AM

What I think 'bout Braxton is this: I think I'd need to clone myself and have one of me study him fulltime to have an even half way informed opinion. And that he really must have something against getting any airplay with those darn unpronoucable tune titles!

Pie R squared? Pie are not square, pie are round!

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Posted 15 October 2004 - 09:13 AM

according to Lois, the admin over at JC, Anthony Braxton has agreed to sign up and start an "Ask Anthony Braxton" thread.

Should be interesting, to say the least...

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Posted 15 October 2004 - 09:21 AM

according to Lois, the admin over at JC, Anthony Braxton has agreed to sign up and start an "Ask Anthony Braxton" thread.

Should be interesting, to say the least...

Should be...it would give me a reason to stop by at JC more often.

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Posted 15 October 2004 - 05:11 PM

I always wondred if these drawings in the composition titles mean anything.

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Posted 16 October 2004 - 09:54 PM

today i spotted a Braxton one sealed for 7USD and i put it on hold for me. now i noticed there is a thread about him. iīm not familiar at all with his work so here goes the question: should i get EIGHT (+3) TRISTANO COMPOSITIONS 1989 (FOR WARNE MARSH)?? if yes, it's gonna be my first Hat Hut disc....

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Posted 17 October 2004 - 11:44 AM

thanks clem, will get it tomorrow :)

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Posted 17 October 2004 - 12:41 PM

Marcus,

if you don't like it you can dump it on Ebay for $30-40. Braxton's OOP HatHut albums are highly sought after.

"Tristano" is not one of his best albums in my view, but it is very accessible.

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Posted 29 October 2004 - 03:56 AM

I'm looking forward to checking out 23 Standards soon. CD Universe finally shipped it on Wed., and it should be in my PO Box today or tommorow.

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Posted 29 October 2004 - 08:43 AM

I just found out that the library system where my parents live has lots of Braxton on cd. The next time I go down to visit I'll be checking some out, and was hoping some of you with more exposure to his work could give your opinions on which of these would be the top 4 or 5 choices to grab first:

Braxton – 3 compositions of new jazz
Braxton - 19 (solo) compositions
Braxton - Composition no. 94 for three instrumentalists (1980)
Braxton - Composition no. 96
Braxton - Donaueschingen (duo) 1976
Braxton - Duets (Wesleyan) 2002
Braxton - Five compositions (quartet) 1986
Braxton – For Alto
Braxton - Four compositions (quartet) 1983
Braxton - Six compositions (quartet) 1984
Braxton - Solo (Koln) 1978
Braxton - Two compositions (trio) 1998

thanks in advance!

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Posted 29 October 2004 - 10:46 AM

I just found out that the library system where my parents live has lots of Braxton on cd. The next time I go down to visit I'll be checking some out, and was hoping some of you with more exposure to his work could give your opinions on which of these would be the top 4 or 5 choices to grab first:

Braxton – 3 compositions of new jazz
Braxton - 19 (solo) compositions
Braxton - Composition no. 94 for three instrumentalists (1980)
Braxton - Composition no. 96
Braxton - Donaueschingen (duo) 1976
Braxton - Duets (Wesleyan) 2002
Braxton - Five compositions (quartet) 1986
Braxton – For Alto
Braxton - Four compositions (quartet) 1983
Braxton - Six compositions (quartet) 1984
Braxton - Solo (Koln) 1978
Braxton - Two compositions (trio) 1998

thanks in advance!

All solo stuff is easy to recommend. "Koln 1978" is fantastic.

Duo (Weyslean) 2002 is the one with Taylor Ho Bynum on Innova, I think - good stuff.

The rest I don't remember.

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Posted 29 October 2004 - 10:48 AM

I'm looking forward to checking out 23 Standards soon. CD Universe finally shipped it on Wed., and it should be in my PO Box today or tommorow.

Let us know what your opinion on this one is. My impression (after having listened to first 3 discs) is that it is close to a disaster.



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