Noj Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 One can't forget the freakish 0.4 second shot Derek Fisher hit to sink the Spurs in San Antonio. That shot propelled the Lakers to play beyond their injury-riddled roster, but only in getting past the Spurs. When the Finals rolled around, there was no Malone, no Devean George, Rick Fox and GP were playing the worst ball of their careers, and Kobe decided he'd rather force shots than work the ball to Shaq. Combine that with not having anyone to match up well defensively with Rasheed and Rip, and there it was... Well...... That's basketball isn't it, a TEAM effort??? Isn't that why they have 12 men instead of just 5??? Karl Malone was never the issue with the Lakers, you are still grasping for straws.. B-) DETROIT ROCKS YET AGAIN!! I understand what's happening on the floor much better than what's happening on the business end of things, I'm definitely not grasping for straws here. I watched the Lakers all year last year, I know for certain that Karl Malone was the glue that held the whole team together. As the season progressed, the offense was run through Karl because his passing ability was by far the best on the team. It is a team sport, but take a future Hall Of Famer off the floor and the team will weaken, obviously. My analysis was spot on for why the Lakers played so poorly in the Finals. Detroit also specializes in defense, and came in playing their very best basketball. That's hardly the team one wants to face when dealing with crucial injuries, infighting, and having to re-tool the offense to deal with the gaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Just because the Pistons had a much easier time with the Lakers than they did with New Jersey and Indiana doesn't mean that New Jersey and Indiana were better teams than the Lakers (and ergo, the Spurs). I think that's exactly what it means. Both New Jersey and Indiana would've done the same thing to the Lakers. The Lakers last year were playing on their reputation and the Spurs bought into it and got psyched out. Same thing with the Kings two years before that... sometimes the better team doesn't win. The Clips finally passed the Lakers in the standings. By the way Baron Davis was insane last night. 40 pts, 13 assists. If he's healthy the Warriors will be really good next year. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceW Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Lakers need to stop crying, it could be a lot worse...... Since we are always talking about if's..... IF the Clippers had won half of those last minute close games, they would be in the playoffs and with a record that would really make the Lakers hide their faces... IF Corey Maggette knew how to finish a drive into the paint and get the bucket besides the foul..... all those 3 points instead of 2...... IF Chris Kamen knew how to play the pro game........ IF Shaun Livingston had stayed healthy ALL season....... B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 (edited) Here's a mighty big "if" for you, Bruce: If, in a century or so, the Pistons franchise is able to catch up to the Lakers in terms of Championship trophies, then you can have the last laugh. Until then, this Laker fan will whine and cry all he wants. The PaperClips will never win it all. The franchise exudes losing. They were twice the team the Lakers were this season...on paper. They'll play with any team all night long and blow it in the 4th quarter. I still watch them and root for them anyway. Edited April 7, 2005 by Noj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceW Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Here's a mighty big "if" for you, Bruce: If, in a century or so, the Pistons franchise is able to catch up to the Lakers in terms of Championship trophies, then you can have the last laugh. Until then, this Laker fan will whine and cry all he wants. The PaperClips will never win it all. The franchise exudes losing. They were twice the team the Lakers were this season...on paper. They'll play with any team all night long and blow it in the 4th quarter. I still watch them and root for them anyway. Well Noj, I understand where y9ou are coming from.... However, remember this always, it was the Pistons who dethroned the Showtime Lakers and it was the Pistons who dethroned the Shaq,Kobe Lakers. So that in itself is a feat that no other team has done to another. So keep your dynasties but always remember who dethroned them. On the Clips, I agree with you. Have a good one, the Lakers lost tonight.... again..... B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulstation1 Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 bruce do you like JOS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Well Noj, I understand where y9ou are coming from.... However, remember this always, it was the Pistons who dethroned the Showtime Lakers and it was the Pistons who dethroned the Shaq,Kobe Lakers. So that in itself is a feat that no other team has done to another. So keep your dynasties but always remember who dethroned them. The Spurs dethroned the Shaq/Kobe Lakers, in 2003. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulstation1 Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 we SHOULD be goin' for our 6-peat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceW Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 bruce do you like JOS? at risk of looking stupid, what is JOS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceW Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Here's a mighty big "if" for you, Bruce: If, in a century or so, the Pistons franchise is able to catch up to the Lakers in terms of Championship trophies, then you can have the last laugh. Until then, this Laker fan will whine and cry all he wants. Touche` Cannot argue with that history. From Minneapolis to Los Angeles (Pan Pacific Auditorium, Sports Arena) until Detroit hit power in 89 I was an advid Laker fan, even when they couldn't win with Ray Felix at center. However, I always maintained my loyalty to Detroit even after Dave Bing was lost with the eye injury. So there it is.... Now you know..... I love both teams even though I seem to always speak out against the Lakers. I became vocal about the Lakers when they got Kobe. I could see from the beginning that he was a great player but also that he was a spoiled brat and trouble on the way. B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 I've only rooted for the Lakers, and I pull for the Clippers because I'm a homer. I suffered through the Vlade/Van Exel years after growing up with Magic/Kareem/Worthy. Magic is still my favorite player of all time. Kobe was an incredible player--when he played within the system. The open 20 footer created by Shaq double teams was a friggin' layup to the kid. The decision to play without a big man is a huge digression from what made him successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 I'm neither a big Kobe fan nor detractor, skill wise. Are you sort of saying he's a great complimentary player, but not necessarily a great superstar who can carry a team all by himself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 I don't think there are any shooting guards outside Michael Jordan's shoes who can win without a great big man. Even Jordan's teams had sort of a "big man by committee" between Rodman, Longley, Weddington, etc. Pippen added to that as well with his superior rebounding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulstation1 Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 questions about kobe 1 will he win another ring? 2 will he win an mvp award? you must have a big man to compete in the west kobe is getting what his ass deserves ss1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceW Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 (edited) I'm neither a big Kobe fan nor detractor, skill wise. Are you sort of saying he's a great complimentary player, but not necessarily a great superstar who can carry a team all by himself? Nobody answered this question... The answer is..... Correctomundo! Kobe is a great shooting guard........ Got to admit though, he seems to be trying now that it is too late...... there seem to be more PASSES rather than... Oh I can't shoot so I will dish it quick.... B-) Edited April 10, 2005 by BruceW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulstation1 Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 the heat is gonna ***** slap the chumps this mornin' to send out THE final message don't mess with the heat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachel Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 (edited) don't mess with the heat ...yet the Pacers have beat them the last 12 straight regular season games. OK... I'll go away now... Edited April 10, 2005 by rachel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceW Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 the heat is gonna ***** slap the chumps this mornin' to send out THE final message don't mess with the heat Well, well, well, Who got b***h slapped today??? B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 the heat is gonna ***** slap the chumps this mornin' to send out THE final message don't mess with the heat Well, well, well, Who got b***h slapped today??? B-) Yeah... if the Pistons are lucky enough to have Shaq injured, they'll definitely get past Miami in the playoffs. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulstation1 Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 i'll shut the **** up i want the play-offs to start this week forget the rest of the regular season my vote for mvp under my rules one being the best record i'd say steve nash, but i hoping for shaqzilla ss1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceW Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 i'll shut the **** up i want the play-offs to start this week forget the rest of the regular season my vote for mvp under my rules one being the best record i'd say steve nash, but i hoping for shaqzilla ss1 Hey comon Soulstation, Hang in there, Miami is a different team with Shaq. But now I think the Pistons are still going to the Finals. They were awsome until they went to sleep in the last quarter. B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulstation1 Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 if da daddy says his tummy hurts, the daddy's tummy hurts missin' a bunch of games isn't good for winnin' the mvp award ss1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 The Denver Nuggets have gone 31-6 since George Karl became the coach; they've won 24 out of their last 26. (Making the coach of the year choice shockingly easy.) The Phoenix Suns opened their season 31-6; they won only 23 out of their first 26. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceW Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 bruce do you like JOS? That was a shit ass question... You sequed from the NBA to Oscar; no wonder I didn't quite get the question before. Yeah, I like him.. Yeah, I met him, yeah he asked me to play once and what else doyou want to know..... I'm not mad, but that was a shit ass question on that NBA thread. B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulstation1 Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 the chumpions are playin' some ball, the cavs are gonna get them today i think the fakers are gonna finish below the clippers you know you've had a bad season IF the clippers have a better season this is only the second time since 1980, the lakers didn't make the play-offs thanks kobe-ass clown ss1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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