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well - I produced and released that Schildkraut CD - I recorded it live in New Haven 1979 - I think he plays quite brilliantly - I'm willing, in the interests of argument, to send it to anyone here for cost and let them judge for themselves - assuming this does not violate any commercial rules here - let me know if you are interested -

Allen ... I guess I should have made clear that I was referring only to the sound quality, and not meant in any way to reflect on the quality of Dave's improvisations, which are, as always, interesting, quirky, and illuminating. Damn! Sometimes the lack of nonverbals creates a problem in cyberspace. I would be remiss if I did not indicate that the overall sound is not the best. I am sure that you would agree with that.

Sorry for the misunderstanding...

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John Handy! I'm referring to his Roulette and Columbia sessions as well as his sideman dates with Charles Mingus. (He made some pretty awful commercial sides later on).

Good call, Marty. I remember hearing a Mingus track from 1959 and thinking the avant-garde altoist was Dolphy, but it was Handy.

Guy

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well - I produced and released that Schildkraut CD - I recorded it live in New Haven 1979 - I think he plays quite brilliantly - I'm willing, in the interests of argument, to send it to anyone here for cost and let them judge for themselves -  assuming this does not violate any commercial rules here - let me know if you are interested -

Allen - so you are Endgame. I had always assumed that Jeff Fuller, who plays on both of the Endgame releases that I have, was behind those recordings. Interesting. So much for my Holmesian powers of deduction.

I can recommend both the Schildkraut and the Percy France Endgame CDs. You won't find audiophile sound on either, but you will find master musicianship on both.

Are there any other Endgame recordings available or in the works?

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Here's a guy that should be talked about though:  T. K. Blue, or Talib Kibwe if you will. Long a musical director/frontliner for Randy Weston, and also a leader in his own right.  The man can PLAY!

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Talib Kibwe is indeed overlooked. I also offer, once again, Trevor Watts who is usually overlooked (in the USA anyway).

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Re-Endgame and Schildkraut -

1) thanks for the clarification. I actually think the sound is very decent on the Shildkraut - I recorded it on an old cassette machine and than re-mastered digitally; of course there were many limitations with the original - it certainly sounds as good as a lot of old boots, and actually probably better - only had a single microphone, placed on a speaker through which the alto was playing - also recorded 1979 - more important is that Dave was a genius; I personally regard him as one of the two or three greatest modern alto players ever - in separate conversations that I had with them, Dizzy Gillespie, Jackie Mclean, Bill Evans, and Stan Getz agreed.

2) Engame is a label that was born and died within the space of about 6 months. A long story with some legal isues, I did the mastering for the Japanese market, spent a fair amount of money, and than had my Japanese contact back out - lost a lot of money but made it back in about 3 years, fortunately. The other releases were Art Pepper (which had to be officially withdrawn because my source lied about the rights), Warne Marsh (VERY bad sound quality but still interesting) and Zoot Sims (also, I find out, questionable) - at this point I am just unloading them at cut-out prices through ebay -

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John Jenkins: Admittedly, not much of a discography, but a few good things worthy of acknowledgment:

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Another altoist for the list (who has come in for his share of criticism on this board):

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Another Sonny (alto, flute, and sometimes tenor):

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