wesbed Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Yes, but the blue shapes against the black background are offensive. I'd rather see them be modified into dolphins (maintaining the Miami connection). I'd like to see mermaids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted February 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 I'd like to see mermaids. ...that look like Tyra Banks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfricaBrass Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Good one, Couw! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 While they're at it, they should reissue it as a Chick Corea session. Oh wait, wrong Pete LaRoca album. Never mind... Bertrand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgraham333 Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 (edited) Back when I was told that Basra was getting reissued in the RVG series, I joked with Michael Cuscuna about it, saying something like, "They're going to let you put out a CD titled Basra"? We had a good laugh. However, we both made the connection right away. This is what I've been thinking while reading this thread. Why the hell didn't someone bring this up earlier?!? We have to get it on the release schedule and on the pre-order list at all the major online retailers before someone realizes that there may be an issue...? Therein lies the source of my anger. Why get everybody interested if you're gonna bail out at the last minute. Does anyone with insider knowledge know how far along this title got in the process. Are there thousands of BASRA liners and discs headed for a landfill somewhere? Ridiculous....simply ridiculous. Edited February 15, 2005 by mgraham333 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted February 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Are there thousands of BASRA liners and discs headed for a landfill somewhere? That's what I was wondering. Is Blue Note gonna take a hit reprinting artwork and repackaging all these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfricaBrass Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Are there thousands of BASRA liners and discs headed for a landfill somewhere? That's what I was wondering. Is Blue Note gonna take a hit reprinting artwork and repackaging all these? I wonder if they'll just sit on it for a few years and release it as a RVG "Collector's Choice" title at a higher price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 I would see this as a great opportunity for Sims to share his feelings about the war. I'm sure a music paper would give coverage to his feelings regarding this release. Except, of course, if he's in support of the war... (Which he might be if he's truly the one behind the title change and concerned about any "sensitivity" issues re: our troops) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Nice job! Now can you redo "Turkish Women in the Bath" with Tyra? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bart Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 What's really crazy about this is that, though it's the British who occupy Basra, in Britain the RVG edition of Basra is actually available! I've just bought it in London. Great album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbored Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Do not blame Blue Note... it isn't their doing. no offense intended, but oh yes it is. if they're indulging the artist at this late date... there's absolutely no contractual or atistic justification. talk a hot potato (potatoe?), -e- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Do not blame Blue Note... it isn't their doing. no offense intended, but oh yes it is. if... *if* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 I must be a total fucking idiot, but I don't see what's controversial about the name of this album. Bertrand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbored Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 *if* it's really a rhetorical 'if'. it's fact that they are indulging the artist based on the postponed release. there's no way that the artist has any rights to the marketing (or re-marketing in this care), distribution, or release of a work from four decades ago. the ball is squarely in EMI's court as to their indulgence (or 'support' or 'respect'?) to the artist on this count... -e- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted February 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 What really strikes me as odd is that it has been released in Great Britain under the BASRA title. As it was stated before, it's the British troops that are in Basra for the most part. If the artist has a problem with the name now, why does it not bother him it's being released in Britain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmorin Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 With all the problems on the Korean Peninsula, should Prestige remane "Soultrane" something else? I mean it's only an "e" away from Seoultrane. Miles' estate should call for the renaming of Pangaea and Gondwona -- some Creationists don't accept the theory of plate tectonics, after all. By the same token, Grachan Moncur should retitle "Evolution" as "Evolution Is Just a Theory", or perhaps "Intelligent Design". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Good one, Couw! Aw come on Jeff: give us a Cat Shatner cover!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garthsj Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 From the Unscrupulous Blackmarket Department: FOR SALE: A CD of "BASRA" by PETE LAROCA. A rare Blue Note album, now censored and withdrawn for political reasons. $645 or nearest offer. G.W.B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcoliv Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 i'm reading all this non-sense and i just simply cannot believe on something like that. where does it go all the speeches about freedom????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 *if* it's really a rhetorical 'if'. it's fact that they are indulging the artist based on the postponed release. there's no way that the artist has any rights to the marketing (or re-marketing in this care), distribution, or release of a work from four decades ago. the ball is squarely in EMI's court as to their indulgence (or 'support' or 'respect'?) to the artist on this count... -e- my point is that I wonder where you got the *fact* that it's on Sims's wishes that the title is changed. That was only posed as a hypothesis here on this thread AFAIK. no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbored Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 my point is that I wonder where you got the *fact* that it's on Sims's wishes that the title is changed. That was only posed as a hypothesis here on this thread AFAIK. re-read kevin's "put two and two together" as well as "it's not blue note's fault" posts. ???, -e- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 i'm reading all this non-sense and i just simply cannot believe on something like that. where does it go all the speeches about freedom????????????? Let's not get too carried away with the freedom, liberty, and "first ammendment" hyperbole. From what's been suggested, it sounds like Cuscuna and BN are simply respecting Larcoca (Sims) wishes in the matter. It wouldn't be the first time that Michael's been respectful of an artist's wishes. Personally I think it's silly to change the name, but it wouldn't be the first time something like this has happened and I don't think it's truly indicitive of the decline of western civilization... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbored Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Calm down... I was not given the OK to say who wanted the title changed. However, it should be noted that the artist in question, Pete LaRoca (Sims) is still alive and, if you notice, he did in fact propose a new title for the session. Put two & two together. Michael Cuscuna did not want this change. Tom Evered did not want this change. this leaves either the artist or corporate (EMI)... -e- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 my point is that I wonder where you got the *fact* that it's on Sims's wishes that the title is changed. That was only posed as a hypothesis here on this thread AFAIK. re-read kevin's "put two and two together" as well as "it's not blue note's fault" posts. ???, -e- okay, gotcha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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