[scottb]

BASRA is not listed on the Blue Note site as a new release!

KEVIN!!!!!!!!!!!

[Noj]

There's talk at JC that Basra has been delayed indefinitely... :(

[scottb]

Indefinitely? that sounds so... indefinite!

[wesbed]

I placed my order with CDUniverse early last week. My order, too, has all the RVGs marked as ready to ship except for BASRA.

My CDUniverse order hasn't shipped yet. :(

[wesbed]

I just received this note from CDUniverse regarding BASRA.

Our supplier has run out of the items flagged as "backorder". We will continue to try to get these items for you and ship them as soon as we receive them. Some backorders come in the very next day, some never come in. After 4/1/2005 backordered items will be automatically cancelled. You can cancel backorders yourself by clicking the Order Status link on our home page. Thank you for shopping at CD Universe! Should you have any questions, feel free to contact us.

This post has been edited by wesbed: 15 February 2005 - 12:36 AM

[Guy]

BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Late]

This from CDUniverse on the Quebec RVG:

Quote

Notes:
Personnel: Ike Quebec (tenor saxophone); Freddie Roach (organ); Milt Hinton (bass); Al Harewood (drums). Producer: Alfred Lion. Reissue producer: Michael Cuscuna. Recorded at the Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey on November 26, 1961. Originally released on Blue Note (84093). Includes liner notes by Leonard Feather. Digitally remastered by Larry Walsh. All tracks have been digitally mastered using 24-bit technology.

:huh:

[wesbed]

Late, on Feb 14 2005, 11:09 PM, said:

This from CDUniverse on the Quebec RVG:

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Notes:
Personnel: Ike Quebec (tenor saxophone); Freddie Roach (organ); Milt Hinton (bass); Al Harewood (drums). Producer: Alfred Lion. Reissue producer: Michael Cuscuna. Recorded at the Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey on November 26, 1961. Originally released on Blue Note (84093). Includes liner notes by Leonard Feather. Digitally remastered by Larry Walsh. All tracks have been digitally mastered using 24-bit technology.

Was this ever issued as a Connoisseur? Perhaps part of the CDUniverse notes have been pulled from the notes that were used for the Connoisseur?

I don't know.

[Late]

wesbed, on Feb 14 2005, 11:19 PM, said:

Was this ever issued as a Connoisseur? Perhaps part of the CDUniverse notes have been pulled from the notes that were used for the Connoisseur?

That's probably it. Mr. Walsh's remastering work on the first two batches of Connoisseurs was ... :tdown :rfr .

[connoisseur series500]

scottb, on Feb 14 2005, 11:29 PM, said:

BASRA is not listed on the Blue Note site as a new release!

KEVIN!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol:

Those of us here who...er...refuse to speculate with our older versions still retain them just in case something like this happens! :g

I think I'll spin my old version of Basra in the car today...

:lol:

[Son-of-a-Weizen]

Damn, Conn, all I have left is a burn of the JRVG! There'll be hell to pay for this when I hit the Capitol Beltway this morning!! B-)

http://www.bdparadisio.com/images/6366.jpg




B-)

[Stefan Wood]

heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh.................

[Hank]

It might be that Basra is held up. The local indie shop I go to has all the new RVGs except Basra. Has anyone seen it?

[Man with the Golden Arm]

Aren't the British still in control. Or do we blame the Sunnis?

[Soul Stream]

Now I know what it's like to see a bunch of crackheads looking for that one rock that rolled under the couch. :rolleyes:

[Kevin Bresnahan]

Man with the Golden Arm, on Feb 15 2005, 09:56 AM, said:

Aren't the British still in control. Or do we blame the Sunnis?

Well, from what I was just told, you can blame the war in Iraq!

First off, I'm not making this up.

Pete LaRoca's "Basra" has been temporarily withdrawn from the release schedule. There is some pressure to change the title. There is intense sensitivity to our guys dying over there and this sensitivity extends to the Jazz world.

Sorry guys.

BTW, Pete Sims prefers "Lazy Afternoon" and Michael Cuscuna prefers "Candu" (because the number of letters is the same and the cover change would be minimal).

Later,
Kevin

[John Tapscott]

cheap-cds.com shipped the new RVG's yesterday. Their website now lists the release date for Basra as 12/31/06.

[couw]

I already wondered about this when it was first put on the reissue schedule...

Pity the cover art needs changing. A remark by Cuscuna in the linernotes explaining the sensitivities and the decision might be a nice gesture.

[Jim Dye]

I guess they have to pull Horace Silver - Blowin' The Blues Away because of the song The Baghdad Blues.

What a bunch of spineless corporate idiots.

:angry:

This post has been edited by Jim Dye: 15 February 2005 - 10:28 AM

[Man with the Golden Arm]

Kevin Bresnahan, on Feb 15 2005, 11:10 AM, said:

Man with the Golden Arm, on Feb 15 2005, 09:56 AM, said:

Aren't the British still in control.  Or do we blame the Sunnis?

Well, from what I was just told, you can blame the war in Iraq!

First off, I'm not making this up.

Pete LaRoca's "Basra" has been temporarily withdrawn from the release schedule. There is some pressure to change the title. There is intense sensitivity to our guys dying over there and this sensitivity extends to the Jazz world.

Sorry guys.

BTW, Pete Sims prefers "Lazy Afternoon" and Michael Cuscuna prefers "Candu" (because the number of letters is the same and the cover change would be minimal).

Later,
Kevin

That is absolutely insane!!! WTF, not that I need this release, but!... why on earth would one change the name of an artist's art for something that stoopid.... marketing shmarketing but it all goes back to the fact that ya can't trust them idiots in the front office. Might as well strike "Baghdad Blues" from the Silver discog and have Carla Bley go back and get Jack and the others to retake "Rawalpindhi Blues" at the same time.
The minute I see some stretch pant wearin' fatti down at Walmart putting back this LaRoca for the "WAR" reason and the fact that Chemical Ali might play the un-credited durbuke on the bonus track and not for the fact that Joe Henderson is on the money all the time within I will take off my Burka at Berigan's cash register and eat a whole bag of Big League Chew!

[Jim Dye]

We all need to write a collective open letter to Blue Note denouncing this censorship and have it published in Down Beat or Jazz Times. If we all chipped in 5 bucks, i'll bet we could do it. Have it be a joint effort between Jazz Corner, AAJ and Organissimo.

This is bullshit.

[Noj]

I've officially heard it all.

It ain't enough that I disagree with war entirely, now it is affecting my fucking jazz listening experience. :angry:

[Man with the Golden Arm]

Son-of-a-Weizen, on Feb 15 2005, 09:58 AM, said:

Damn, Conn, all I have left is a burn of the JRVG! B-)

"Just a Burn" of this soon-to-be-one-of-the-most-collectable-JRVGs-in-the-history-of-mankind!!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Rooster_Ties]

Kevin Bresnahan, on Feb 15 2005, 10:10 AM, said:

Pete LaRoca's "Basra" has been temporarily withdrawn from the release schedule. There is some pressure to change the title. There is intense sensitivity to our guys dying over there and this sensitivity extends to the Jazz world.

Pressure from where??? From who?? (Seriously, what group is pushing for this???)

Honestly, what group has the re-release of a 35+ year old jazz album on their radar????


WTF???? :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

[scottb]

Being somewhat of a purist, I would rather them just delay it's release instead of changing the title and artwork. Unless they are trying to create a collector's item that will sell on Ebay in ten years for $1 million!!!

[Rooster_Ties]

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http://www.basra.org/images/flying.jpg

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[Rooster_Ties]

http://www.basra-refs.org/images/basra.gif

BAY AREA SOCCER REFEREE ASSOCIATION

[Soul Stream]

Kevin Bresnahan, on Feb 15 2005, 10:10 AM, said:

Man with the Golden Arm, on Feb 15 2005, 09:56 AM, said:

Aren't the British still in control.  Or do we blame the Sunnis?

Well, from what I was just told, you can blame the war in Iraq!

First off, I'm not making this up.

Pete LaRoca's "Basra" has been temporarily withdrawn from the release schedule. There is some pressure to change the title. There is intense sensitivity to our guys dying over there and this sensitivity extends to the Jazz world.

Sorry guys.

BTW, Pete Sims prefers "Lazy Afternoon" and Michael Cuscuna prefers "Candu" (because the number of letters is the same and the cover change would be minimal).

Later,
Kevin

If they can't release it as "Basra," they shouldn't release it. That's just silly. We're turning into a police state here, and we're doing it to ourselves.

I hope you're joking Kevin. If not, I hope you tell Michael this is insane.

[Kevin Bresnahan]

Calm down... I was not given the OK to say who wanted the title changed.

However, it should be noted that the artist in question, Pete LaRoca (Sims) is still alive and, if you notice, he did in fact propose a new title for the session. Put two & two together.

Michael Cuscuna did not want this change. Tom Evered did not want this change.

Later,
Kevin

[AfricaBrass]

I'm glad the title change isn't coming from the label, but from the artist.

How about:

T.A.F.K.A.B (The Album Formerly Known As Basra). I don't think Prince is using that acronym anymore.

(You can't image the restraint I showed. Many more titles first came to mind :ph34r: )