Teasing the Korean Posted May 1, 2021 Report Share Posted May 1, 2021 Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 It's the Jackie band without Jackie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) On a related note, does anyone know the origins of the material on the Sabu in Orbit album? The earliest reference I can find to this album is 1997. Incidentally, Qobuz has, for only US $6.99, a giant CD-quality Sabu collection that contains the following: Sorcery Safari with Sabu Sabu's Satellites in Orbit Astronautas De La Pachanga Palo Congo Rites of Diablo (Johnny Richards) plus an alternate take Jazz Espagnole - almost the full album, missing the "Intro" drum track It is a convenient way to get a lot of this music, though you will have to rearrange it in folders to re-configure the original albums. Neither Afro Temple nor the Art Blakey Cu-Bop albums are included. Edited May 2, 2021 by Teasing the Korean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said: On a related note, does anyone know the origins of the material on the Sabu in Orbit album? The earliest reference I can find to this album is 1997. https://www.discogs.com/Sabú-Y-Sus-Pachangueros-Sabus-Satellites-In-Orbit/release/8255030 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 17 minutes ago, mikeweil said: https://www.discogs.com/Sabú-Y-Sus-Pachangueros-Sabus-Satellites-In-Orbit/release/8255030 Thanks! How about the second album? The "In Orbit" LP and CD reissue has two albums' worth of stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 https://www.discogs.com/Sab%C3%BA-Y-Sus-Pachangueros-Astronautas-De-La-Pachanga/release/4729927 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, JSngry said: https://www.discogs.com/Sab%C3%BA-Y-Sus-Pachangueros-Astronautas-De-La-Pachanga/release/4729927 Thanks. I will update my description of the download album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said: On a related note, does anyone know the origins of the material on the Sabu in Orbit album? The earliest reference I can find to this album is 1997. Incidentally, Qobuz has, for only US $6.99, a giant CD-quality Sabu collection that contains the following: Sorcery Safari with Sabu Sabu's Satellites in Orbit Astronautas De La Pachanga Palo Congo Rites of Diablo (Johnny Richards) plus an alternate take Jazz Espagnole - almost the full album, missing the "Intro" drum track It is a convenient way to get a lot of this music, though you will have to rearrange it in folders to re-configure the original albums. Neither Afro Temple nor the Art Blakey Cu-Bop albums are included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, felser said: Well, the Qobuz download has seven classic albums, and it is cheaper than this set! I already had Palo Congo and Jazz Espagnole on legit CDs (Blue Note, Fania), Rites of Diablo on LP, and the Scorpio LP reissue of Sorcery, from the masters. So for me, the download was worth it for the other few, plus the convenience of having Sorcery in digital form. Edited May 2, 2021 by Teasing the Korean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Teasing the Korean said: Well, the Qobuz download has seven classic albums, and it is cheaper than this set! I already had Palo Congo and Jazz Espagnole on legit CDs (Blue Note, Fania), Rites of Diablo on LP, and the Scorpio LP reissue of Sorcery, from the masters. So for me, the download was worth it for the other few, plus the convenience of having Sorcery in digital form. Understood. I'm a CD guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, felser said: Understood. I'm a CD guy. So am I, if it's the real deal, but I don't pay top dollar for grey market CDs that are probably mastered from vinyl and don't contain the original cover art. If they are very cheap, I make an exception. We got good CD reissues of Palo Congo and Jazz Espagnole, but we apparently never got these for Sorcery or Safari, which IMO are his best albums. I would love to buy nice CD versions of these from the master tapes and with the original cover art, but the window for this kind of thing closed a long time ago. Also, for whatever it's worth, Qobuz offers CD-quality downloads and, with some titles, better-than-CD-quality downloads. They are not lossy mp3 files. So here are my overall, brief impressions of these albums: Sorcery - I've had this for ages. An exotica classic, perhaps his best. Lots of percussion, effects such as gongs, minimalist instrumentation including bass, oboe, and flute. Safari with Sabu - Similar in approach to Sorcery, with a slightly larger group and more of a jazz element overall. Sabu's Satellites in Orbit - interesting to hear organ along with piano, bass, and Latin percussion. The organ has a bit of a roller-rink setting that I don't really like. The piano and organ struck me as being not very interesting from a harmonic point of view. Astronautas De La Pachanga - This is better than the previous, with vibes instead of organ. Palo Congo - I've had this for a long time. A mixed bag. I like the more percussive tracks, but am not particularly into the Cuban street music sound on several tracks. Rites of Diablo (Johnny Richards) - I've had this one for ages too, and it too is an exotica masterpiece. My Dad did sessions with the Dave Lambert singers, and I have long wondered if he is on this album. I have not found a listing of the singers, and he is no longer here for me to ask him. There are times when I think I hear him, and other times not. Jazz Espagnole - I've had this album for ages also. I really love it. Top-shelf Latin jazz. It is from 1960, and it feels ahead of its time for me. I could easily imagine an album like this being released in the mid-1960s. Edited May 2, 2021 by Teasing the Korean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 28 minutes ago, Teasing the Korean said: So am I, if it's the real deal, but I don't pay top dollar for grey market CDs that are probably mastered from vinyl and don't contain the original cover art. Yeah, I mean, just how desperate for porn do you have to be to buy that kind of shit, right? It's like a Xerox of some budget level "men's" magazine with a name like Rouge or something like that. Standards, humans, please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 The Japanese cd of Bu and Sabu sounds quite good. But probably not easy to afford these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, jazzbo said: The Japanese cd of Bu and Sabu sounds quite good. But probably not easy to afford these days. What album is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 (edited) The one mentioned above, "Cu-Bop," Art "Bu" Blakey and "Sabu" Martinez. Edited May 2, 2021 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 26 minutes ago, jazzbo said: The one mentioned above, "Cu-Bop," Art "Bu" Blakey and "Sabu" Martinez. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 2, 2021 Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 Buhania, not Bu Pleasant. Although, bot Bus were Pleasant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 Spinning the Fresh Sound LP reissue of this album right now. The band is on fire. But, basically, the Messengers with Sabu added, heating up the proceedings, many exchanges between Sabu and Blakey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted July 25, 2021 Report Share Posted July 25, 2021 My poor family have to listen to an awful lot of Sabu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 So I've been listening quite a bit to Sorcery (Columbia) and Safari with Sabu (RCA Vik subsidiary). These are my two favorite Sabu albums. Both albums date from 1958, and both are very complementary albums in terms of group and approach. They must have been recorded around the same time with similar personnel. Safari lists the players, but Sorcery does not. Both albums omit a chordal instrument such as piano, thus opening up a lot of space. There is lots of percussion, bass, and, alternately, singing or melodic improvisations played on either flute, oboe, or sax. Sometimes the bass lays out and you hear percussion with flute or oboe. Safari has more singing/chanting than Sorcery. Both albums create very hypnotic grooves. These albums have been combined onto CD, although they had to drop a track to make them fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 Do you class those two as exotica records? They’re quite different to your Jazz Espagnoles or Afro Temples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted August 6, 2021 Report Share Posted August 6, 2021 6 hours ago, Rabshakeh said: Do you class those two as exotica records? They’re quite different to your Jazz Espagnoles or Afro Temples. I would classify them as exotica, but there is enough jazz and Afro-Cuban content there to satisfy those interests also. Jazz Espagnole is probably my next favorite of the bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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