T.D. Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 I like "Bylsma I", the earlier of his 2 sets that's now on Sony Essential Classics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Ophelie has one hell of a punim. Check her out (especially that striking prow of a nose): http://www.opheliegaillard.com/ And the excerpt of her playing is impressive too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bill Barton Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 (edited) My vote also goes to the Casals recordings. They are sublime. A close second for me is the box-set of Rostropovich with Dali artwork, which hasn't been mentioned yet. Edited December 11, 2007 by Bill Barton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 (edited) For anybody not wanting to spend the big bucks, I recommend this rather new recording by Jaap ter Linden on Brilliant Classics - I haven't yet listened to all of it, but it seems to be on the level as Bylsma or Wispelweij. Edited December 11, 2007 by mikeweil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user0815 Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 My vote also goes to the Casals recordings. They are sublime. :tup i too have this naxos-edition of the casals recordings ... beautiful music ... one of my personal "desert-islands-cds" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Thinking of getting another versions of the Cello Suites (currently have Gendron and Bylsma I). My preference is for recent releases (hey, want to support "the industry") and HIP (which is kind of under-represented in my CD collection). HIP not absolutely required if performance is sufficiently kick-ass. The three recordings below have caught my eye. Any feedback (or other recommendations) appreciated. a) Queyras on Harmonia Mundi: great reviews, clips sound excellent (playing and sound quality), negative is that the set is pricey and Q. plays a period cello with modern bow/strings; b) Gailliard on APARTE(?): seems to be HIP, samples good, fewer reviews than Queyras; c) Anne Gastinel on Naive: got my attention for some reason, but don't know much about it and samples are limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 I read an essay by Dutch violinist/conductor Sigiswald Kuijken last evening on the subject of the use of violoncello in Bach's church music, and was rather surprised to read that according to latest research Bach rarely used the type of cello we know today, but a violone - a type of smaller double bass - or a type of larger viola in cello range that was arm-held rather than between the knees. The solo cello suites probably were intended for such an instrument as well. Whew! Know I am waiting for a first recording on a "violoncello da spalla"! Sigiswald Kuijken is not Dutch, he's from Belgium (Flanders, to be exact). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 I read an essay by Dutch violinist/conductor Sigiswald Kuijken last evening on the subject of the use of violoncello in Bach's church music, and was rather surprised to read that according to latest research Bach rarely used the type of cello we know today, but a violone - a type of smaller double bass - or a type of larger viola in cello range that was arm-held rather than between the knees. The solo cello suites probably were intended for such an instrument as well. Whew! Know I am waiting for a first recording on a "violoncello da spalla"! Sigiswald Kuijken is not Dutch, he's from Belgium (Flanders, to be exact). BTW, Kuijken has since (2009) recorded the suites on "shoulder cello." Haven't heard the recording... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 I have the Rostropovich on EMI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandrill Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 (edited) I'm partial to Antonio Janigro recording for Westminster, which i have on 70s re-issue vinyl. It was re-issued on CD by MCA eons ago- you may find a copy if you are lucky. For 21st century recordings: Ophelie Gaillard recorded it twice- first in 2000- that one is impossible to find without shelling some major bucks, and then again this year- that the one i have and can heartily recommend. Another good one is by Winona Zelenka- canadian cellist on Marquis Records. Edited November 12, 2011 by Mandrill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Lillian Fuchs on viola: http://www.amazon.com/Bach-6-Suites-Cello-Solo/dp/B00079W8PY/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1321063518&sr=1-1-catcorr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 (edited) I read an essay by Dutch violinist/conductor Sigiswald Kuijken last evening on the subject of the use of violoncello in Bach's church music, and was rather surprised to read that according to latest research Bach rarely used the type of cello we know today, but a violone - a type of smaller double bass - or a type of larger viola in cello range that was arm-held rather than between the knees. The solo cello suites probably were intended for such an instrument as well. Whew! Know I am waiting for a first recording on a "violoncello da spalla"! Sigiswald Kuijken is not Dutch, he's from Belgium (Flanders, to be exact). BTW, Kuijken has since (2009) recorded the suites on "shoulder cello." Haven't heard the recording... I have since bought it - meanwhile there is even a second recording on the violoncello da spalla by Ryo Terakado, and another one. The sound is a bit thinner than the knee-cello, but the different playing technique gives it a more violin-like gesture - very interesting. Listeners accustomed to the widespread modern cello sound might take some time to open their minds and ears to this unusual sound. Edited November 12, 2011 by mikeweil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedwork Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 (edited) I've been meaning to get the Casals. Nice to see the good reviews here. Not the complete set, but Edgar Meyer did Suites 1, 2, & 5 on double bass for Sony. I like it. i use Meyer's Gigue from Suite No. 5 in C minor at work often to demo speaker systems. tremendous. he's kind of a freak imo. in the best sense... why and how did they get charlie haden to pose for that album cover photo on a serious note, i'd love to hear an interpretation of these suites by haden. maybe a complete 'pizz' version... Edited November 12, 2011 by thedwork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 (edited) why and how did they get charlie haden to pose for that album cover photo on a serious note, i'd love to hear an interpretation of these suites by haden. maybe a complete 'pizz' version... You gotta take Ron Carter if you want a jazz bassist pizz version ... Besides that, Jaap ter Linden plays nicely, but I don't like his tone - very much mesa di voce, even vibrato, and a rather thick sound, probably due to his instrument - I gave it away in the end. The far best, i.e. most beautiful version that I bought so far, is by Hidemi Szuzuki - great sound and conception, excellently recorded! It has been issued with at least three different covers - the one above is the SACD cover, the SACD sounds terrific! Edited November 12, 2011 by mikeweil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Gitin Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Favorite recent one is by Isserlis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I agree that Casals is a legend, but in this case, my preferred artist is Paul Tortelier. Tortelier did these on UK tv many years ago as part of a masterclass. Very striking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Got the Casals - they're amazing! And then just today got Guido Schiefen's recording, which in its own way is nearly as strong, I think. Thanks for that recommendation, D.D.! I definitely want to check out Fournier, and also Starker - but the later has recorded, it seems around four complete versions, though only two of them seem to be out on CD ... one as pictured above by Mercury, the other by RCA (Sony/BMG/whatever). Do these two RCA editions actually contain the same recording? And which is preferrable? And that's the Schiefen - OOP but around used very cheaply (I practically paid for shipping only from a vendor on amazon.fr). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 The two RCAs are the same recordings. I suggest the Mercury because of its reputation, not personal experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Got the Gaillard the other day after doing a lot of listening on Spotify. Here's what I wrote to a friend: 'That Ophelie Gaillard recording of the Bach cello suites arrived; one of the best pieces of music-making I've heard in a good while. Every phrase seems to almost literally speak. Her approach is probably more lower-register oriented than most any other; notes seem to vibrate from down there. Also, a tremendous sense of "grain" and angle as phrases ascend or descend, as though each note were being carved into a stick.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 There is new-ish recording by Dmitry Badiarov on violoncello da spalla (shoulder cello). As I understand, Badiarov builds these instruments. I quite like the samples, although I miss the depth of the cello sound: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bach-Cello-Suites/dp/B007Q56998/ref=mb_oe_o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Wood Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 (edited) The Mercury Starker is excellent, and I love the Casals. But the Fournier on Archiv has really grabbed me. Edited July 31, 2012 by Stefan Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Does anyone here actually own the RCA Starker? Chuck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Not me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Does anyone here actually own the RCA Starker? Chuck? No, I don't have it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomsMobley Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Glad you got this, LK... I assume you got Gaillaird II-- http://www.amazon.com/J--S-Bach-Suites-violoncelle-1007-1012/dp/B004NWHV6W/ Gaillard I, issued as two separate-- and beautifully packaged-- Ambrosie label CDs was excellent too, though the label could be elusive. I think her's is by far best of the 'period' performances; the rest, even Byslma I-- are pretty po' faced and though I have affection for Fournier and Tortelier, NONE of the traditional recordings would rank in my top 5; (and if one did, Starker it definitely wouldn't be, nor absurdly hyped-on-release Isserlis The Rostropovich is a bad and not-tasteless-enough joke.) Caals we gotta deal with vis a vis history of performance practice but its musical interest is otherwise slight. May I never hear Ron Carter (or William Parker) play arco again-- Got the Gaillard the other day after doing a lot of listening on Spotify. Here's what I wrote to a friend: 'That Ophelie Gaillard recording of the Bach cello suites arrived; one of the best pieces of music-making I've heard in a good while. Every phrase seems to almost literally speak. Her approach is probably more lower-register oriented than most any other; notes seem to vibrate from down there. Also, a tremendous sense of "grain" and angle as phrases ascend or descend, as though each note were being carved into a stick.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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