Niko Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 (edited) thank you! just in case a thomas completist drops by... in the ina.fr archive there are some radio shows with otherwise unreleased (and iirc unlisted at thomasia - which has been dead lately, anyway?) thomas on a few tunes... Edited April 30, 2010 by Niko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 another rare clip with rené thomas appeared here: oleo. have to check the discographies from what year with whom. keep boppin´ marcel Many thanks for linking this very rare clip. Obviously from the Belgian TV 'Jazz pour tous' show from January 1962 with Bobby Jaspar, Amedeo Tommasi on piano, Benoit Quersin on bass and Daniel Humair on drums. Can't get enough of Thomas and Jaspar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 another rare clip with rené thomas appeared here: oleo. have to check the discographies from what year with whom. keep boppin´ marcel WOW!!!! This is highly important, not only because there are so few videos of Thomas, but because of the vintage and the quality of the recording. Up until fairly recently, the only videos of R.T. were very short and not so great, but this is wonderful. Now, don't forget the other one posted by the same person... and I think this one might be even better than 'Oleo' (it's longer, for one thing): Thomas / Jaspar Quintet #2 I recognize the tune, but I would have to go through and listen to my CD's to remember the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bichos Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 here is the info from meeker (brownie, you are right!): JAZZ POUR TOUS! 1962 Belgium 1962 – s – tvs Songs: 1. "Oleo" by Sonny Rollins; "It could happen to you" by Johnny Burke, James Van Heusen; "I remember Sonny". With: 1. The International Jazz Quintet:- Bobby Jaspar, tenor sax, flute; Amadeo Tommasi, piano; René Thomas, guitar; Benoît Quersin, acoustic double bass; Daniel Humair, drums. unbelivable, this video must exist in a privat collection. keep boppin´ marcel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 Thanks for posting these. Pretty cool stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 unbelivable, this video must exist in a privat collection. keep boppin´ marcel The video is preserved in the collection of La Maison du Jazz in Liège (Thomas and Jaspar's hometown). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 Very cool! Thanks for posting these links! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bichos Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 more live rené thomas!!!!!! 12 minutes with trio in good color quality! here: keep boppin´ marcel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Beautiful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I´m afraid there´s no thread dedicated to this wonderful Belgian guitarist. <span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>(from Michel Herr collection)</span> Any comments on him? You said it all with 'wonderful'. Like a cross between Jimmy Raney and Django---but blusier and with a heavier sound than both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel1969 Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I m too lazy to read all the Topic, but...a part from "Meeting Mr Thomas" on Jazzland and Lou Bennett's Enfin ' you also have to find another ultimate masterpiece : ' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 I dug Eddy Louiss Trio out (w/Klook). No gtr. player could keep up w/Eddy. Rene just did his thing. Some comments on that thing from a guitarist: Rene Thomas IMO could have been more original and grown had he not had a drug problem-died from an OD, I'm told . I feel the same way about his latter-day influence Grant Green. When you're in that thing you care about 2 things: getting high and then getting paid so you can stay high. Back to Thomas: He was more than a Raney copycat, but less himself than he might have. What he did have was a big, dark sound, swinging beat, a looseness, and soulfulness. Jimmy Gourley was a more obvious Raney imitator and not the talent Thomas was IMO. Thomas got repeated minor arpeggios from Raney, but was earthier, the touch heavier.I dig him. I would've liked him to haved lived and cleaned up to reach his potential. Two European players who did were Wim Overgrouw (sp), a risk-taking improvisor-and Attila Zoller (also friend I dearly loved and miss). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel1969 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Back to Thomas: He was more than a Raney copycat, but less himself than he might have. (...) Jimmy Gourley was a more obvious Raney imitator and not the talent Thomas was IMO. What a perfect description of René. And of Jimmy Gourley, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 more live rené thomas!!!!!! 12 minutes with trio in good color quality! here: keep boppin´ marcel The same person who posted that one also posted this one a few weeks earlier: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUMfwR5R5bU I'm amazed to see this. Amazed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Thanks Michel. It sure was a drag the way he went out.Thanks Michel. It sure was a drag the way he went out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel1969 Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 more live rené thomas!!!!!! 12 minutes with trio in good color quality! here: keep boppin´ marcel The same person who posted that one also posted this one a few weeks earlier: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUMfwR5R5bU I'm amazed to see this. Amazed! René plays with an Gibson ES 150. Correct me if i'm wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 René plays with an Gibson ES 150. Correct me if i'm wrong... You are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bichos Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 another live video comes up with the great rené thomas: keep boppin´ marcel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgcim Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Thanks! My fave vinyl with RT was the live session with Bobby Jaspar on Mole in 1962 in Paris. One obscure record he did that I haven't seen mentioned was "A Milanese Story" by John Lewis on Atlantic from 1961. It was an Italian movie soundtrack that had Bobby Jaspar also on flute and tenor and Buster Smith on drums, plus a string quartet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bichos Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 and another wonderful full set with stan getz´ group and the one and only rené thomas!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TybBE9QQGRY keep boppin´ marcel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Bump. I just discovered this thread on a google search for Thomas. He was a Jimmy Raney-Django Reinhardt inspired player with his own fat sound and great swing. Sounded particularly good with Chet Baker: the Italian Sessions, and Stan Getz: Dynasty. There's also a trio date with the late Eddy Louiss and Kenny Clarke. I forget the name. He is well worth a listen or two. 1 minute ago, fasstrack said: There's also a trio date with the late Eddy Louiss and Kenny Clarke. I forget the name. He is well worth a listen or two. To remedy that: http://www.discogs.com/Eddy-Louiss-Kenny-Clarke-Rene-Thomas-Eddy-Louiss-Kenny-Clarke-Rene-Thomas/release/2208328 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Thanks for bumping this thread. The Thomas-Pelzer Limited LP on Vogel has been hitting me just right lately. I have Guitar Groove on CD, but as with most of my CDs, it's boxed up and buried. Must try to sort out where it is in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Just now, clifford_thornton said: . The Thomas-Pelzer Limited LP on Vogel has been hitting me just right lately. Not familiar with Pelzer unless you mean the druggist friend of Chet Baker Jacques Pelzer). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Yup. He also played the tenor, and quite decently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Alto, Flute and Soprano, actually... there's a long interview (in French) on youtube with Robert Jeanne, the tenor player in Thomas' Belgian working band from the 60s who proudly recalls everybody's day jobs - they were an educated bunch... Many of the best European musicians in that generation were proud not to be professional musicians, thus not having to play odd gigs. Jeanne was an architect, Jean Lerusse, the bass player in that band, was a medical doctor, only Felix Simtaine, the drummer, turned professional at some point around 1970 (hope I remember all this correctly)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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