Rosco Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 UK date on this is now December 5th!!!!! This is starting to piss me off now! This time I'm serious: I don't think it'll be out this year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave9199 Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Amazon has it listed for Nov. 22nd...not that it means much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILLYQ Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 'It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas... ' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave9199 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Don't know if it means anything, but the Cellar Door set is not listed at Amazon at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Don't know if it means anything, but the Cellar Door set is not listed at Amazon at the moment. ← Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Still listed for Oct. 30 release here:Amazon.fr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Still listed for Sep. 21 release here:Amazon.de Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Still listed for Sep. 21 release here:Amazon.de ← You must have it by now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Still listed for Sep. 21 release here:Amazon.de ← You must have it by now ← It's great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 So, is it copy-protected If not, you can all make copies for us, because it sounds like no one in the U.S. will ever get it Bertrand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md655321 Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Its definitely readily available in the US. Just without any fancy packaging. Or legality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alankin Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md655321 Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Im even listening to it right now. And Its definitely worth all the waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 No copy protection! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 This already got reviewed in last Sunday's SF Chronicle: MILES DAVIS: THE CELLAR DOOR SESSIONS 1970 In the light-speed evolution of Miles Davis’ electric ’70s period, one album stands like a marker. “Live-Evil,” though released only two years after the groundbreaking space-jazz of “Bitches Brew,” is galaxies apart from that effort and contains inklings of the psycho-funk Davis would achieve a year later. But “Live-Evil” was a hodgepodge, with some tracks recorded live at the Cellar Door club in Washington, D.C., and others from an earlier studio date with different personnel. The great stuff was from the Cellar Door, and the new six-CD box set has it all: four nights, eight sets, with Davis on trumpet, Gary Bartz on sax, Henderson on bass, Keith Jarrett on electric piano, Airto Moreira on percussion, Jack DeJohnette on drums and — for one night — John McLaughlin on electric guitar. If “Bitches Brew” was the journey, “Cellar Door” is the arrival at the deep and the dark. -- David Rubien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Just received bad news...as in "cancelled"...details still vague... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 WTF?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Just received bad news...as in "cancelled"...details still vague... ← Someone posted on the Dime Jazz Email List that Amazon sent him a cancellation mail for his order, since the release of the set was cancelled. I didn't post that here, since I don't know that guy, but now that another source seems to seed this same rumour, I thought I'd share it here. How ridiculous this all is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 (edited) My source is unimpeachable, and it's a member of the Davis estate that is doing it (cancelling the release, that is). It is my hope (and unfounded in anything but hope - no info to support it) that this is just a temper tantrum and/or negotiating ploy. Edited October 28, 2005 by JSngry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 from the Miles Beyond website: October Earlier this month, Seth Rothstein, VP of Columbia Legacy, confirmed the release date of the Cellar Door as November 22 in the US. A week later someone closely involved e-mailed me with the message that "Vince Wilburn has put a kibosh on the whole thing again." Wilburn, Miles' nephew and a drummer in his uncle's band 1985-1987, is the leading voice in the Miles Davis Estate. He was also the person behind the first delay of the boxed set release. The latest news is that the release is abandoned altogether. Please watch this space for official confirmation, and more details on the story behind all this, insofar as they can be revealved without compromising my sources. (More information on the set below.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rostasi Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 I figure: We'll get cancellation notices for our pre-orders then it'll come up again in November without the discounts and all will go forward for Xmas season release. Just a guess... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 I'm sure things are quite complicated, particularly in a case where Columbia is going to want to keep going back to the Miles Davis catalog, but how do these companies keep running into these problems (remember Basra)? Don't they have a signed contract, certainly before they start advertising and pressing CDs? Perhaps it is the case they could tell the guy from the Davis estate to take a hike but that it isn't worth it. I know this is only one small thing out of a lot of issues, but I wouldn't be surprised in the next round of copyright extensions, the corporations find a way to cut out troublesome estates. (It actually will become more and more of an issue, since they apparently will be granted copyrights in perpetuity and the original artists will all have passed away. I suspect a ploy to retroactively designate all artistic work as works "made for hire" and strip away any involvement of estates. Why not? They've gotten everything else they want.) In general, I support estates looking after the interests of the artists, many of whom got a raw deal while alive, but some cases just seem ridiculous, such as this one. Whose interests are really being served here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rostasi Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Yup, they could be complicated...or not. I just hope that there's good reason and not just some dumb "sticker" issue (like the last holdup?). Maybe there are questions about the release and sale of promo copies? We don't know...but it's quite a disservice to fans if it's something less than a rights issue that involves potential cash to the estate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Agreed, we don't know. But if it is permanently cancelled for a stupid reason, I figure there are a few people on the board who are going to find themselves with a lot of really good friends ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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