Miles Cellar Door Update

bertrand · March 21, 2005

'Teo, why the fuck are you having me do a Michael Jackson tune? The guy's a weirdo'.

mikeweil · March 21, 2005

I will buy that Cellar Door set the day it is released over here, no matter when that is.

David Ayers · March 22, 2005

I will buy that Cellar Door set the day it is released over here, no matter when that is.

What if it's in the middle of your vacation, and you have to come back rom Barbados to buy it?

jazzbo · August 18, 2005

Preordering now possible through cduniverse.com

Gary · August 18, 2005

Tracks:

1. Directions (J. Zawinul)

2. Yesternow (M. Davis)

3. What I Say

4. Improvisation #1

5. Inamorata (M. Davis) [Funky Tonk]

6. What I Say (M. Davis)

7. Honky Tonk

8. It's About That Time (M. Davis)

9. Improvisation #2

10. Inamorata (M. Davis [Funky Tonk])

11. Sanctuary (W. Shorter/M. Davis)

12. Directions (J. Zawinul)

13. Honky Tonk (M. Davis)

14. What I Say / Sanctuary

15. Directions (J. Zawinul)

16. Honky Tonk (M. Davis)

17. What I Say (M. Davis)

18. Sanctuary (W. Shorter/M. Davis)

19. Improvisation #3

20. Inamorata

21. Directions (J. Zawinul)

22. Honky Tonk (M. Davis)

23. What I Say / Sanctuary

24. Directions (J. Zawinul)

25. Improvisation #4

26. Inamorata (M. Davis) [Funky Tonk]

27. Sanctuary (W. Shorter/M. Davis)

28. It's About That Time / Sanctuary

Release date: September 27, 2005;

John B · August 18, 2005

Preordering now possible through cduniverse.com

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$39 for six discs? That's as cheap as yourmusic.com. (and a no-brainer.)

bertrand · August 18, 2005

Three questions:

1. Will this be copy-protected?

2. Why are they still listing Miles as co-author of 'Sanctuary'? I thought this was resolved years ago.

3. Which 4 of the 28 tracks are on the original Live-Evil, or were these tracks spliced together, so that the pieces are now re-assigned to where they belonged?

Bertrand.

Edited August 18, 2005 by bertrand

ghost of miles · August 18, 2005

Same day as the Monk/Coltrane... and Bud Powell's b-day to boot.

Guy Berger · August 18, 2005

3. Which 4 of the 28 tracks are on the original Live-Evil, or were these tracks spliced together, so that the pieces are now re-assigned to where they belonged?

At least some of the tracks on Live Evil were victims of splicing. I can't remember the names but the disc 1, track 1 is a combination of "Directions" and "Honky Tonk". Disc 1, track 2 begins with a take of "Directions" that has the melody spliced out at each instance.

Guy

Edited August 18, 2005 by Guy

jazzbo · August 18, 2005

Breakdown by disc:

Disc/Side 1

1. Directions

2. Yesternow

3. What I Say

4. Improvisation #1

5. Inamorata

Disc/Side 2

1. What I Say

2. Honky Tonk

3. It's About That Time

4. Improvisation #2

5. Inamorata

6. Sanctuary

Disc/Side 3

1. Directions

2. Honky Tonk

3. What I Say

Disc/Side 4

1. Directions

2. Honky Tonk

3. What I Say

4. Sanctuary

5. Improvisation #3

6. Inamorata

Disc/Side 5

1. Directions

2. Honky Tonk

3. What I Say

Disc/Side 6

1. Directions

2. Improvisation #4

3. Inamorata

4. Sanctuary

5. It's About That Time

jazzbo · August 18, 2005

Well, it's not over til it's over, but I hope the release date holds true this time.

Been a long time since this!

Edited August 18, 2005 by jazzbo

jazzbo · August 18, 2005

Bertrand, I've never taken the time to totally work out the provenance of all the tracks on Live/Evil (but look below for analysis) . . . MOST if not all of them come from THIS night:

Directions (J. Zawinul) 14:44

Honky Tonk (M. Davis) 21:12

What I Say (M. Davis) 20:53

Sanctuary (W. Shorter-M. Davis) 0:40

Directions (J. Zawinul) 18:39

Funky Tonk (M. Davis) 23:56

Sanctuary (W. Shorter-M. Davis) 2:02

It's About That Time (M. Davis) 6:42

Sanctuary (W. Shorter-M. Davis) 1:18

(two sets recorded of three that night)

Miles Davis (tpt); Gary Bartz (ss, as); Keith Jarrett (el-p, org); John McLaughlin (g); Michael Henderson (el-b); Jack DeJohnette (d); Airto Moreira (perc, voc); Conrad Roberts (narr)

Here is the information on Live/Evil track breakdowns on Pete Losin's "Miles Ahead" website:

In an interview with Teo Macero, Chris Albertson describes the 87 minutes of live material on Live-Evil as a "distillation" of "ten to fifteen" reels of tape recorded during the group's performances at the Cellar Door ("The Unmasking of Miles Davis," Saturday Review, November 27, 1971, p. 87.). Here's a rough comparison of the issued material with the unedited masters:

"Sivad" (15:12) Master

0:00-0:01 (drum roll) Directions (2nd set) 0:00-0:01

0:02-3:24 Directions (2nd set) 11:30-14:44 + Honky Tonk 0:00-0:08

3:25-4:14 Honky Tonk (studio, 5/19/70)

4:15-9:11 Honky Tonk (2nd set) 5:23-10:20

9:12-15:12 Honky Tonk (2nd set) 15:13-21:14

"What I Say" (21:09) Master

0:00-20:50 What I Say (2nd set) 0:00-20:50

20:51-21:09 Sanctuary (2nd set) 0:00-0:18

"Funky Tonk" (23:23) Master

0:00-2:54 Directions (3rd set) 0:47-3:41 (theme excised)

2:55-4:53 Directions (3rd set) 3:54-5:51 (theme excised)

4:54-16:14 Directions (3rd set) 6:20-17:39 (theme excised)

16:15-16:50 Directions (3rd set) 18:03-18:39

16:51-20:12 Funky Tonk (3rd set) 0:00-3:21

20:13-20:18 Funky Tonk (3rd set) 3:59-4:04

21:19-23:23 Funky Tonk (3rd set) 4:15-6:20

"Inamorata" (26:28) Master

0:00-16:34 Funky Tonk (3rd set) 7:21-23:55

16:35-16:47 Sanctuary (3rd set) 1:50-2:02

16:47-23:08 It's About That Time (3rd set) 0:00-6:21

23:09-26:08 It's About That Time 0:00-2:59 [see note]

Narration by Conrad Roberts first 0:43

26:08-26:28 Sanctuary 0:00-0:20 [see note]

Note: these items not from Cellar Door

Edited August 18, 2005 by jazzbo

jazzbo · August 18, 2005

More info from http://www.plosin.com/milesAhead/Sessions.aspx?s=701219

December 19, 1970 (10 items; TT = 110:46)

Cellar Door Club, Washington DC

Commercial for Columbia

Miles Davis Septet

Miles Davis (tpt); Gary Bartz (ss, as); Keith Jarrett (el-p, org); John McLaughlin (g); Michael Henderson (el-b); Jack DeJohnette (d); Airto Moreira (perc, voc); Conrad Roberts (narr)

Second set

Directions (J. Zawinul) 14:44

Theme stated at 2:59. Two fragments (0:01 + 3:14) on G 30954 and equivalents.

Honky Tonk (M. Davis) 21:14

Three fragments (0:08 + 4:56 + 6:00) on G 30954 and equivalents.

What I Say (M. Davis) 20:50

Sanctuary (W. Shorter-M. Davis) (closing theme, applause) 0:39

Incomplete (0:18) on G 30954 and equivalents.

Third set

Directions (J. Zawinul) 18:40

Theme stated at 3:40, 5:56, 17:39. Four fragments (2:54 + 1:58 + 11:20 + 0:35) on G 30954 and equivalents.

Funky Tonk (M. Davis) 23:56

Four fragments (3:22 + 0:05 + 2:04 + 16:34) on G 30954 and equivalents.

Sanctuary (W. Shorter-M. Davis) 2:02

Fragment (0:12) on G 30954 and equivalents.

It's About That Time (M. Davis) 6:41

Incomplete (6:21) on G 30954 and equivalents.

Sanctuary (W. Shorter-M. Davis) (closing theme, applause) 1:17

Overdub

Narration by Conrad Roberts (C. Roberts) 0:43

"Inamorata, mission: music, masculinity, master of the art... music. Who is this music that which description may never justify? Can the ocean be described? Fathomless music, body of all that is, live everlastingly... Man initiate inamorata, your music are tomorrow's unknown known life. I love tomorrow..."

Directions

12" LP: Columbia G 30954, Columbia C5K 45000, CBS/Sony SONP 50452/3 (= 36AP 1773/4)

CD: Columbia C4K 45000 (= C4K 86569), Columbia C2K 65135, Columbia C2S 65135, Columbia C6K 93614, CBS/Sony 50DP 707/8 (= Sony SRCS 5715/6), CBS/Sony 80DP 5430/3 (= Sony SICP 5037/40), Sony Mastersound SRCS 9123/4, Sony Mastersound SRCS 9739/40, Sony SIGP 24/5, Sony SICP 839, Sony SICP 910, Sellar Productions Sell 1/2

Honky Tonk