jazzbo Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 These PJ lps in this set are great! I've got them all. . . . That was why they chose the set, I had them all already! -_- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 I'm sure that most of y'all got this in the most recent Mosaic e-mail, but I thought I'd add it to this thread, because I think it's pretty relevant to understanding the music of The Crusaders (Jazz and otherwise). "I visited New York in '63, intending to move there, but I noticed that what I valued about jazz was being discarded. I ran into `out-to-lunch' free jazz, and the notion that groove was old-fashioned. All around the United States, I could see jazz becoming linear, a horn-player's world. It made me realize that we were not jazz musicians; we were territory musicians in love with all forms of African-American music. All of the musicians I loved were territory musicians, deeply into blues and gospel as well as jazz. " - Joe Sample That, I think, is a highly cogent statement not easily dismissed. There will always be those who will fliply dismiss the bands "change of direction" as being motivated strictly by money, but it's not that simple. A cynic often sees the reality of a situation without always understanding the truth behind it... "Territory musicians", eh? I like the notion. A lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranemonk Posted August 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 website tunes sound fantastic... I'm juiced to get this stuff (and I didn't get 3,000 hits or 500 homers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 I'm sure that most of y'all got this in the most recent Mosaic e-mail, but I thought I'd add it to this thread, because I think it's pretty relevant to understanding the music of The Crusaders (Jazz and otherwise). "I visited New York in '63, intending to move there, but I noticed that what I valued about jazz was being discarded. I ran into `out-to-lunch' free jazz, and the notion that groove was old-fashioned. All around the United States, I could see jazz becoming linear, a horn-player's world. It made me realize that we were not jazz musicians; we were territory musicians in love with all forms of African-American music. All of the musicians I loved were territory musicians, deeply into blues and gospel as well as jazz. " - Joe Sample That, I think, is a highly cogent statement not easily dismissed. There will always be those who will fliply dismiss the bands "change of direction" as being motivated strictly by money, but it's not that simple. A cynic often sees the reality of a situation without always understanding the truth behind it... "Territory musicians", eh? I like the notion. A lot. ← That quote caught my attention, too. Definitely food for thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 I just listened to those Mosaic site cuts, never having listened to them before, and I was favorably impressed. I'll be getting this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron S Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Per the web site, release has been pushed back to "early September." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 The new Mosaic catalogue arrived here today and the Jazz Crusaders set is heavily featured ( ). I was wondering about this set as I haven't had a Mosaic invoice letter yet for my pre-order, which I was assuming should have arrived if the set is in the new catalogue. Maybe I need to send them an email just in case my pre-order got lost in the wash. Looks like a really great set ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 I'm sure that most of y'all got this in the most recent Mosaic e-mail, but I thought I'd add it to this thread, because I think it's pretty relevant to understanding the music of The Crusaders (Jazz and otherwise). "I visited New York in '63, intending to move there, but I noticed that what I valued about jazz was being discarded. I ran into `out-to-lunch' free jazz, and the notion that groove was old-fashioned. All around the United States, I could see jazz becoming linear, a horn-player's world. It made me realize that we were not jazz musicians; we were territory musicians in love with all forms of African-American music. All of the musicians I loved were territory musicians, deeply into blues and gospel as well as jazz. " - Joe Sample That, I think, is a highly cogent statement not easily dismissed. There will always be those who will fliply dismiss the bands "change of direction" as being motivated strictly by money, but it's not that simple. A cynic often sees the reality of a situation without always understanding the truth behind it... "Territory musicians", eh? I like the notion. A lot. ← I guess that I'm one of those cynics. I always thought that their "territory" was the Billboard charts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 I guess that I'm one of those cynics. I always thought that their "territory" was the Billboard charts. ← Me too. Back in the day I checked out the lps as they were issued (listening booths folks) and never purchased a one. The guys could play but so could my college friends. Bought the 2 live cds cheap from BMG and won't bat an eye at the big box. Life is too short, music is too big, bread is too short, blah, blah, blah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Damn Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron S Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Damn Yankees. Yeah, it's not very often you get a decent jazz group out of Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 No, that's the problem - they usually get out of Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Damn Yankees. Yeah, it's not very often you get a decent jazz group out of Texas. ← Guess you've got to be there to appreciate them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed S Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Just received my shipping notice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rostasi Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Just received my shipping notice ← me too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron S Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 I didn't! Oh wait, I haven't ordered this yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed S Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Want to go in 50/50? I'll take the discs, box and booklet. You get the shipping material, free catalog and receipt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron S Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Just like that Basie Clef/Verve deal, huh? If I get both the Mosaic catalog AND the True Blue Catalog, I'm in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranemonk Posted September 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 I didn't! Oh wait, I haven't ordered this yet. ← And WHY NOT???? Waiting for the version on caiman???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rostasi Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 I didn't! Oh wait, I haven't ordered this yet. ← You need to jump on this like a young rabbit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron S Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 I didn't! Oh wait, I haven't ordered this yet. ← And WHY NOT???? Waiting for the version on caiman???? ← The Caiman 60%-off deal on Mosaics only comes once in a lifetime. -_- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron S Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 I didn't! Oh wait, I haven't ordered this yet. ← You need to jump on this like a young rabbit! ← You mean like: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted September 9, 2005 Report Share Posted September 9, 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranemonk Posted September 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Jazz Crusaders box arrived... AM I the 1st????? WOO-HOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave James Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Those of us who straddled the fence on this one look forward to comprehensive reviews from those who didn't. Up over and out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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