jazzbo Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Yeah, I had actually been told in April that it was going to come out on Blue Note but was sworn to secrecy by my source, who had it from the Monk family. I can't wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 I guarantee: there will be cover art! You heard it here first! ← Hope it's better than this one... ...which I've never liked (the cover of, that is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Fitzgerald Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Yeah, but with the Monk family involved, doesn't that mean there's the possibility of wacky day-glo holograms and the like from Thelonious Records? Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 I'll buy it whatever cover they put on it. Wouldn't it be great if there were a photo or two of the performance? How likely is it that there may be one out there that could be unearthed and used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Allrighty then..... any chance you two guys can rub each others magic balls and give us the skinny on the Cuscuna/vinyl matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 I have not heard anything that would indicate the vinyl project has been abandoned. In your shoes I'd contact Mosaic via their webpages and ask. . . bet you get a reply. Me. . . I'm gonna buy a cd, not the vinyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosco Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Just noticed this on the Blue Note website... September 27th release date! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereojack Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Allrighty then..... any chance you two guys can rub each others magic balls and give us the skinny on the Cuscuna/vinyl matter? ← I spoke with Scott Wenzel from Mosaic in late June and he said that Mosaic will be releasing it on vinyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 Allrighty then..... any chance you two guys can rub each others magic balls and give us the skinny on the Cuscuna/vinyl matter? ← I spoke with Scott Wenzel from Mosaic in late June and he said that Mosaic will be releasing it on vinyl. ← For really good vinyl sound, this will have to be a 2 lp set. 51+ minutes is short for that at current vinyl costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolff Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 (edited) and.....hopefully, the vinyl will be from analog master. Classic Records has a good relationship with Blue Note, so maybe they'll get a crack at it. They love doing $40 double LP sets. Edited July 26, 2005 by wolff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alankin Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Just noticed this on the Blue Note website... September 27th release date! ← That site's a bit behind the times -- it's been listed here for a few weeks. -_- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesForBartok Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Here's the artwork: Cover: perhaps inside part of tray: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Cool cover and I don't think I've ever seen that photo before. Has any one else seen it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Fitzgerald Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Maybe not that one, but there are others by Schlitten from that night. For example, page 102 of Ken Vail's book "Miles' Diary." Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Maybe not that one, but there are others by Schlitten from that night. For example, page 102 of Ken Vail's book "Miles' Diary." Mike ← Thanks. I don't feel stupid for noting that I've never seen it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 I had the good fortune to preview a part of this release last night. A friend got a copy from a friend who got it from T S Monk. He couldn't give me a copy, but I got to hear it. It's brilliant. There is a superb interplay between Monk and Trane, and Shadow Wilson is a treat. The sound is excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereojack Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 I've heard the whole thing - absolutely brilliant! As intimate as I am with just about everything by Monk and Trane, I have to say that there are things on here that will surprise and delight everybody! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Won't be long now. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Couldn't they have come up with a better cover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Maybe not that one, but there are others by Schlitten from that night. For example, page 102 of Ken Vail's book "Miles' Diary." Mike ← Have not seen Vail's book but another shot from this date was on the liner of the Jazzland record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosco Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 I had the good fortune to preview a part of this release last night. A friend got a copy from a friend who got it from T S Monk. He couldn't give me a copy, but I got to hear it. It's brilliant. There is a superb interplay between Monk and Trane, and Shadow Wilson is a treat. The sound is excellent. ← I've heard the whole thing - absolutely brilliant! As intimate as I am with just about everything by Monk and Trane, I have to say that there are things on here that will surprise and delight everybody! ← Awww!!! Stop teasing us you guys!!! I am sooooo looking forward to this... But I ain't diggin' the artwork, baby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyJazz Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 I've heard the whole thing - absolutely brilliant! As intimate as I am with just about everything by Monk and Trane, I have to say that there are things on here that will surprise and delight everybody! ← I listened to the first set with headsets on while in the gym yesterday. Had people staring at me in amusement as I was apparently quite vocal in my enjoyment. Terrific, must have jazz. Between this and the Diz 'n Bird at Town Hall, it's been quite a year for "new" stuff from the giants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alankin Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 Now available for pre-ordering from CD Universe. Can't wait to hear it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makpjazz57 Posted September 1, 2005 Report Share Posted September 1, 2005 Also received an advance copy of this and it is going to make a lot of people happy. Much like the Bird/Diz Town Hall discovery, there's just something extra special about finding a never-been-heard-before live recording of jazz greats. Look forward to purchasing the whole package -liner notes 'n all. Marla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Nice review in the IHT today by Mike Zwerin. By Mike Zwerin Bloomberg News WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 7, 2005 The CD "Thelonious Monk Quartet with John Coltrane at Carnegie Hall" on Nov. 29, 1957, to be released by Blue Note at the end of September, is the only full-length, full- quality recording of one of the most legendary collaborations in jazz history. The quartet existed less than six months, and, except for those of us who heard it live, it was pretty much forgotten for 50 years. Until January, when Larry Appelbaum of the Recorded Sound Division at the U.S. Library of Congress was preparing a batch of Voice of America tapes for digitalization and got curious. He opened a minimally and ambiguously labeled plain white box holding a reel of tape. Listening to it, he recognized Monk and Coltrane, and he heard that the sound quality was excellent. Appelbaum recalls, by e-mail, that his heart "began to race." My heart raced to the same music for most of the summer of 1957. I had sublet a loft from a painter on Second Avenue, and the Five Spot café, one block away on the Bowery, became my New York locale. In residence there, Monk and Coltrane and the same band that would play Carnegie Hall three months later were making the most dynamic, original, and charismatic jazz music since Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie in 1945. During the first few nights, it troubled me that, although the music was obviously good, I was having such difficulty keeping up with it. I felt somehow threatened. I wished Monk sounded more like Bud Powell, and Coltrane's long, overwhelming "sheets of sound" made me nostalgic for Lester Young's Mozartian eloquence. Why was I longing for the past like some moldy fig? Was I losing my edge? By the end of the first week, however, I was asking myself why I was going every night to listen so long and so hard to music I supposedly didn't like. After being fired by Miles Davis because of his heavy heroin habit, Coltrane had cleaned up and was in the process of replacing drugs with spirituality. He was playing fresh out of the box, as though newly hatched, like his life depended on it. He tended to repeat his own phrases and runs, yet he kept changing their placement, and what phrases and runs they were. It was more like an aural tapestry than a collection of licks. Whatever it was, you wanted it to go on forever. Miles would soon hire Coltrane back for the band that recorded "Kind of Blue." It was a pivotal year for Monk as well. He had just received his cabaret card, permitting him to work in New York clubs for the first time in years. He was dancing around the stage whenever he laid out, and when he sat down to play his closely voiced chords and childlike arpeggios with the trademark rhythmic stutters, it was obvious that playing with Coltrane was sending him to a rare and happy zone. The two of them were personifications of the old adage that new ideas go through three phases - the joke, the threat and the obvious. At the time, they were about ready to graduate from the threat phase. (Eventually, you would hear them in elevators and airports.) At first, the audience in the Five Spot consisted mostly of painters, musicians and beatniks. More and more people came from uptown as the summer wore on and word got out. Everybody in the audience had one thing in common - we were all aware that we were in on something special. The unsung hero of the band turns out to be the drummer, Shadow Wilson, who accents the soloists as though he was still playing with Count Basie, only softer. The clarity of the sound enables you to hear his deft cymbal work. He and the bassist Ahmed Abdul-Malik maintain a remarkable, firm - yet anything but old-fashioned - groove in the middle of the beat, allowing the soloists to concentrate on pushing and pulling on it. One of the best things about jazz is the elasticity of its swing. Monk's son TS Monk, who helped produce the album, has said that Wilson was his father's favorite drummer. The band was the missing link in the history of jazz between bebop and the free music of Ornette Coleman, who would make his New York debut at the Five Spot two years later. Listening to "At Carnegie Hall" now is kind of like discovering a new Beethoven piano sonata. Listening to it loud is recommended. I am discovering new details after hearing the album maybe 30 times. It still sounds like new music. "Treasures like this still exist," Appelbaum says, by e-mail again. "This heritage is part of our cultural identity. It tells us something about who we are. It's why I look forward to coming to work every day. There's always more." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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