Late Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 (edited) We have threads for the Free America series, the BYG/Actuel series, and the various ESP reissue series ... so I thought this series would fit right in. Just yesterday, I listened to this one straight through: I had forgotten what a terrific session this is — with Brötzmann in one of his earliest Ayler-esque modes. But, more than that, Schlippenbach has a way of changing up the proceedings (blow-out, swing, minimal, etc.) that adds a variety to the session that one doesn't always hear in contemporaneous American recordings of this kind. What are your favorites from this series? (How's the Funky Donkey disc?) Edited March 21, 2020 by Late refreshed album cover art image Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blake Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 (edited) A few of my favorites... Anderson - Dark Day + Live In Verona, Milwaukee Tapes Vol. 1 Brötzmann - FMP130, Fuck DeBore, More Nipples, Balls, ...hell, all the Brötzmann's are great! McPhee - Nation Time von Schlippenbach - Pakastani Pomade Mount Everest Trio - Waves Of Albert Ayler ... this one came out of left field for me, a great surprise. Here's the list of upcoming UMS release for 2005... The Contemporary Jazz Quintet: Actions 1966-'67 reissue (ums250cd) Sirone (featuring Sirone/Charles/Lawrence): Sirone Live (ums253cd) Last Exit (featuring Brötzmann/Jackson/Laswell/Sharrock): Köln reissue (ums252cd) Brötzmann/Bennink: Schwarzwaldfahrt (FMP Archive Reissue- ums254cd) Dieter Scherf Trio: Inside-Outside Reflections (ums255cd) Joe McPhee: Pieces of Light reissue (ums256cd) Brötzmann/Sharrock: title tba (ums257cd) edited for typos Edited April 15, 2005 by blake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted April 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 (edited) blake said: Mount Everest Trio - Waves Of Albert Ayler ... this one came out of left field for me, a great surprise. This is a great one. (I think there's a thread on this album somewhere here.) This one will be interesting to check out ~ Musical saw? OK, I'll go there ... Edited December 16, 2015 by Late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 (How's the Funky Donkey disc?) Funky. I'd call it "avant-funk" for lack of a better term. I really enjoy this album, but haven't listened to it in a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted April 15, 2005 Report Share Posted April 15, 2005 (How's the Funky Donkey disc?) Funky. I'd call it "avant-funk" for lack of a better term. I really enjoy this album, but haven't listened to it in a long time. A good one! This one's a favourite of mine: Mental Cruelty (The 1960 Jazz Soundtrack) (UMS238CD) $13.00 In 1960, an astonishing jazz ensemble was convened by Swiss pianist George Gruntz to create a soundtrack for the Hannes Schmidhauser film MENTAL CRUELTY. The group included bebop innovator Kenny "Klook" Clarke on drums and Belgian saxophonist Barney Wilen, two of the most swinging and sensitive musicians on the planet. Though the dark, lyrical, mysterious soundtrack was initially released on a 10-inch EP, legal difficulties led to its being recalled, and the few copies that were sold became incredibly valuable collectors items. Now, for the first time, the session is issued in its full glory, including several previously unreleased tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 Actions 1966-1967 is really great; just got it. Like Ayler quartet plus Terje Rypdal (that's how the saw sounds). Dig the 2CD set of TCJQ on Steeplechase, too, which reissues two Debut LPs including one with Sunny Murray. Awesome and intense as well. I like More Nipples a bit better, actually, than Nipples - the Bailey-Niebergall-Bennink trio that starts off the disc is stunning. The Hazevoet records are great, too, though they don't get much notice. The Sirone is a nice record, but Artistry (his first) kills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted April 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 The Hazevoet records are great, too, though they don't get much notice. Do the longish tracks sustain interest? I'd be interested in hearing more words on this one ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 (edited) I like it quite a bit; I know I keep using this, but it has that Ayler-esque Euro vibe that was happening in the mid-60s. Hazevoet's clarinet is ridiculous, as a matter of fact. Lots of wide vibrato and wooly soloing over fractured, but regular timekeeping. Much more 'listenable' than Unlawful Noise, as it stands, and both have beautiful covers. Calling Down the Flevo Spirit (Snipe, 1978), duos with Han Bennink, I haven't got as into, but they do amuse. Edited April 16, 2005 by clifford_thornton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted April 16, 2005 Report Share Posted April 16, 2005 I don't believe Hank/Hamid Drake is like one of the greatest JAZZ drummers of all-time... One of the more overrated drummers of late... I actually avoid him when possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 I don't believe Hank/Hamid Drake is like one of the greatest JAZZ drummers of all-time... One of the more overrated drummers of late... I actually avoid him when possible. Same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob C Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 One I like that hasn't been mentioned is Tern by Louis Moholo/Keith Tippett/Larry Stabbins. Good stuff. What's with the Hamid Drake backlash? I know he gets praised to the skies in many quarters, so he could arguably be called "overrated", but he sure doesn't suck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted April 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Hazevoet's clarinet is ridiculous, as a matter of fact. Is Hazevoet primarily a pianist? (On the clarinet: ridiculous good, or ridiculous suck?) And trumpet? I'll probably have to get the thing just to find out ... this series is generally down my alley anyway. The Tom Prehn Kvartet album is one of my faves from this series. Understated avant-garde, if that makes any sense. Very nicely controlled. One FMP title that I'd like to see make this series (and that I've actually written Corbett about) is Rüdiger Carl's Zwei Quintette. I don't even have a listening copy right now — used to, but on a very unfortunate (and hot) day ... the thing got warped out of all control. Anyone here know this side? Has Irène Schweizer on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Hazevoet is primarily a pianist and clarinetist, but plays other instruments as well. His clarinet is rather shrill, but likeable in a dervishy way. I'd like to see a boxset of the Carl-Schweizer material. Their work together is really good on the whole, and I'm rather fond of the trio with Moholo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 No love for the Baby Dodds/Country Brass Bands side? Tell you what - spend a few hours listening to those Brass Band sides and then talk to me about "out"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 (small trini joint on Nostrand-- machete master right there on sidewalk). Yep, he certainly is! I forgot that Corbs reissued the Dodds. I have that on record, and it's great. Apparently one of Han's faves, for what it's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Yeah, the Dodds material is indeed classic, but the Brass Band stuff is the real ear-stretcher. You couldn't get a band today, no matter how "amateur", to sound like that no matter how hard they tried, which I suppose is sorta the point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Huh. Gimme a lil' more info Jim, willya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic1 Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 I own this whole series, and it is all very worth it. I hope they keep up the output. I have a hard time picking a favorite. But the McPhee albums are mind blowing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Ok, the Atavistic disc reissues Dodd's classic 1946 Folkways recordings and includes 20 1954 pieces by two rural brass bands that first came out on a Folkways LP entitled "Music from The South". These brass band cuts are beyond "primitive". It's truly like hearing something from another universe. That's all I'm going to say (hell, that's all I can say, really), other than that the Dodds material is essential, the liner essay about the brass band stuff is pretty damn interesting, and that the Country Brass Band material will fuck you up big time. Other than that, you're on your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Guess I'll have to get it, but I am by no means selling my Dodds 10-inch... B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted April 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 I'll probably have to get the thing just to find out ... Ordered: 2 UMS titles, 2 BYGs. Supposed to not be spending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 (edited) Drimala has a few of the UMS titles in its $5 bargain bin (some of page one only), including the wonderful Mental Cruelty. Edited April 18, 2005 by Chaney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wheel Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 (edited) Ok, the Atavistic disc reissues Dodd's classic 1946 Folkways recordings and includes 20 1954 pieces by two rural brass bands that first came out on a Folkways LP entitled "Music from The South". These brass band cuts are beyond "primitive". It's truly like hearing something from another universe. That's all I'm going to say (hell, that's all I can say, really), other than that the Dodds material is essential, the liner essay about the brass band stuff is pretty damn interesting, and that the Country Brass Band material will fuck you up big time. Other than that, you're on your own. I'm checking out the samples on cduniverse right now. It's....um. Jim's review is fairly accurate. I think the trombone player (at least, I think that's a trombone, though it sounds a little like a buzzsaw) only learned how to play one note. At the time of this recording he was evidently still working on getting that one in tune... edit: Please tell me that's at least a trombone and not a tenor saxophone. Please. I'm starting to lean toward it being a bass washboard. Edited April 18, 2005 by Big Wheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 I think the trombone player (at least, I think that's a trombone, though it sounds a little like a buzzsaw) only learned how to play one note. At the time of this recording he was evidently still working on getting that one in tune... Ah, but here's the thing - I have no reason whatsoever to believe that that player, nor any of the others, were "trying" to do anything other than exactly what they were doing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wheel Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Truth be told, the rest of it doesn't sound THAT screwed up to me. Certainly not very sophisticated, but...I can at least almost HEAR the tunes when the trumpet player is playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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