Dave James Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 The Newborn TV appearance is part of the Jazz Scene USA package...the one hosted by Oscar Brown Jr. I have this on VHS. Not sure if it's made it to DVD as yet, although several of these have. My recollection from here at work is that he was paired with someone who should have been better than he was... maybe Jimmy Smith. During the brief interview that Brown does with each of the guests who appear on Jazz Scene it seems to me there's a discussion about Newborn's ability to play straight or play an entire song (both the right and left handed parts) with just his left hand. If that's the case, then the discussion has advanced itself beyond monsta chops to the unreal category. Newborn had a brother, Calvin, who was a fair jazz guitarist. I have an old RCA Bluebird CD with both of them on it. Now the last question. I've heard his name pronounced like it sounds, but also like Phinas. Anyone know which is correct? Up over and out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Only slightly off-topic. I did a search on Netflix for Phineas - hoping that the TV show might be available - and it gave me this: "Breakin' (1984)" The credits included THIS - Phineas Newborn III Interesting ... His son? I would THINK so. ... and does HE have a son - "IV"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 The Newborn TV appearance is part of the Jazz Scene USA package...the one hosted by Oscar Brown Jr. I have this on VHS. Not sure if it's made it to DVD as yet, although several of these have. My recollection from here at work is that he was paired with someone who should have been better than he was... maybe Jimmy Smith. During the brief interview that Brown does with each of the guests who appear on Jazz Scene it seems to me there's a discussion about Newborn's ability to play straight or play an entire song (both the right and left handed parts) with just his left hand. If that's the case, then the discussion has advanced itself beyond monsta chops to the unreal category. Jazz Scene USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave James Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Bingo. Smith spends most of his air time noodling on a horrible rendition of "Walk on the Wild Side." Not his finest hour. Up over and out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMP Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 "World of Piano" is the one to get. The Miles Davis rhythm section of the day is on one side, the Cannonball Adderley on the other. One of the top trio albums ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcello Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 Isn't that the one with "Grooveyard" on it? Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 "World of Piano" is the one to get. The Miles Davis rhythm section of the day is on one side, the Cannonball Adderley on the other. One of the top trio albums ever. Interesting what Yanow says about it on AMG: Phineas Newborn's Contemporary debut (he would record six albums over a 15-year period for the label) was made just before physical problems began to interrupt his career. This CD reissue has two trio sessions, and finds Newborn joined by either bassist Paul Chambers and drummer Philly Joe Jones or bassist Sam Jones and drummer Louis Hayes. Actually, the accompaniment is not that significant, for the virtuosic Newborn is essentially the whole show anyway. He performs five jazz standards and three obscurities by jazz composers on this superb recital; highlights include "Cheryl," "Manteca," "Daahoud," and "Oleo." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Goren. Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 This is my favorite among his trio recordings: The Newborn Touch. With Leroy Vinnegar and Frank Butler, Newborn interprets composions by Benny Carter, Ornette, Russ freemen, Hampton Hawes and many others. Great trio and a killer pianist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjazzman Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 I own A World Of Piano and Here Is Phineas. he was what you might call a technical speedster. I hear art tatum and oscar peterson in his playing(mostly oscar)....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjazzman Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 The Newborn TV appearance is part of the Jazz Scene USA package...the one hosted by Oscar Brown Jr. I have this on VHS. Not sure if it's made it to DVD as yet, although several of these have. My recollection from here at work is that he was paired with someone who should have been better than he was... maybe Jimmy Smith. During the brief interview that Brown does with each of the guests who appear on Jazz Scene it seems to me there's a discussion about Newborn's ability to play straight or play an entire song (both the right and left handed parts) with just his left hand. If that's the case, then the discussion has advanced itself beyond monsta chops to the unreal category. Newborn had a brother, Calvin, who was a fair jazz guitarist. I have an old RCA Bluebird CD with both of them on it. Now the last question. I've heard his name pronounced like it sounds, but also like Phinas. Anyone know which is correct? Up over and out. ← fin..........e..........as Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereojack Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Now the last question. I've heard his name pronounced like it sounds, but also like Phinas. Anyone know which is correct? Up over and out. ← fin..........e..........as ← Actually both pronunciations are correct. His given name is Phinus Newborn, Jr. I have a 78 by his father's band that spells the name this way. When Jr was in high school, he got tired of the girls teasing him with "fine ass" so he changed it to Phineas. I heard this from his brother Calvin. Fellow Memphis musician James Williams told me in the early 80's that local musicians still called him "Phinus". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILLYQ Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 I have a solo disc that came out on 32Jazz that is fantastic- he does a little bit of Bud Powell, a slow version of 'Giant Steps' and some truly pyrotechnic piano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest akanalog Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 i think newborn was great. a lot more depth than just a technical speedster. i am sure it has been mentioned in this thread previously, but roy haynes "we three" is as good as people say. one of my favorite pianio trio albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epithet Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 I own A World Of Piano and Here Is Phineas. he was what you might call a technical speedster. I hear art tatum and oscar peterson in his playing(mostly oscar)....... ← What sets him apart from Peterson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjazzman Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 I own A World Of Piano and Here Is Phineas. he was what you might call a technical speedster. I hear art tatum and oscar peterson in his playing(mostly oscar)....... ← What sets him apart from Peterson? ← to me his lines and breaks are very sharp and edgey and somewhat percussive(although not to the extent of mccoy) whereas oscar's are more flowing and bluesy with slight tinges of stride............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomastreichler Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 I am a big fan of Phineas Newborn, who IMHO is one of the giants of jazz piano. I have the following records and I love them all: Here Is Phineas (Collectables) Fabulous Phineas (BMG) Plays Again! (Blue Moon) with an italian rhythm section, sound is mediocre World Of Piano (OJC) The Great Jazz Piano Of Phineas Newborn Jr. (OJC) Phineas, The Newborn Touch (OJC) Harlem Blues (OJC) Please Send Me Someone To Love (OJC) As sideman: Roy Haynes, We Three (OJC) Howard McGhee, Maggie Is Back In Town! (OJC) Teddy Edwards / Howard McGhee, Together Again! (OJC) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Most if not all of them. Phineas is a bad MF. I would perhaps go for Roy Haynes's "We Three" first. I first heard Phineas on 'Jazz Interpetations of Harold Arlen's Music of Jamica' in the RCA 'Living Stereo' series from Spain-it was in a cut-out bin for $5, so I went for it, and I have enjoyed it quite a bit. Just recently, I picked up the RVG of Haynes' 'We Three' and I agree that this is a nice disk. I don't have much else to go on, but I think it showcases his talent pretty nicely here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 I am a big fan of Phineas Newborn, who IMHO is one of the giants of jazz piano. I have the following records and I love them all: Here Is Phineas (Collectables) Fabulous Phineas (BMG) Plays Again! (Blue Moon) with an italian rhythm section, sound is mediocre World Of Piano (OJC) The Great Jazz Piano Of Phineas Newborn Jr. (OJC) Phineas, The Newborn Touch (OJC) Harlem Blues (OJC) Please Send Me Someone To Love (OJC) As sideman: Roy Haynes, We Three (OJC) Howard McGhee, Maggie Is Back In Town! (OJC) Teddy Edwards / Howard McGhee, Together Again! (OJC) I have all those OJCs plus "Back home", another with Ray Brown & Elvin Jones, which I like a lot. He is also on Teddy Edwards' "Good gravy" - OJC, which is a lovely album. I also have him on an LP called "Down home reunion" by Young men from Memphis, UA. This is with Frank Strozier, George Coleman, Booker Little, Louis Smith, Calvin Newborn, George Joyner and Charles Crosby. The version of "After hours" on this is damn near as good as the one on "We three". Lots of people remark on Newborn's speed, but for me he's one of the greatest pianists for plain ole blues and slow, funky ballads. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Friedman Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Newborn was an outstanding pianist. I have just about everything he recorded. His recordings on Contemporary as both leader and sideman are marvelous as is the Roy Haynes "We Three" session. His trio date on Atlantic is also one to have. The RCA, & Roulette recordings are good, but not up the standard I mentioned above. I also have these CDs by Phineas as leader. Plays Again - Blue Moon Look Out -Phineas Is Back - Pablo C Jam Blues - Paddlewheel Tivoli Encounter - Storyville Solo Piano - 32 Jazz I had a couple of CDs by Phineas on Steeplechase but disposed of them as I found the playing and sound quality to be sub-par. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert J Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 The Newborn TV appearance is part of the Jazz Scene USA package...the one hosted by Oscar Brown Jr. I have this on VHS. Not sure if it's made it to DVD as yet, although several of these have. My recollection from here at work is that he was paired with someone who should have been better than he was... maybe Jimmy Smith. During the brief interview that Brown does with each of the guests who appear on Jazz Scene it seems to me there's a discussion about Newborn's ability to play straight or play an entire song (both the right and left handed parts) with just his left hand. If that's the case, then the discussion has advanced itself beyond monsta chops to the unreal category. Jazz Scene USA Youtube has a few excerpts from this Oleo Lush Life Theme For Basie The New Blues Left Hand Blues (answering David's question) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:.impossible Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Dmitry bought a copy of Phineas' Rainbow a couple of winters ago as he was passing through Richmond, VA in his new car. Personnel includes: Phineas Newborn, Jr. (piano); Calvin Newborn (guitar); George Joyner (bass); Philly Joe Jones (drums). Recorded between October 16, 1956 and October 22, 1956. Originally released on RCA (LPM 1421). Includes liner notes by Bill Coss. Review: Down Beat (1/02, p.54) - 4 stars out of 5 - "...A beauty..." Hell of a review, eh? I wonder what's hiding under those ellipses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillugg Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Does anyone know what his "mental illness" was about? I just finished listening to Marian McPartland's show featuring Phineas. Apparently it was recorded in 1987 which would be only 2 years before he died. Perhaps the most striking thing is his voice when he speaks. Did he always sound like that? As Marian says on the show, he hasn't lost his chops, but there is a certain sloppiness to his playing, typically for someone who doesn't work much. But he plays some beautiful things, including a left-hand-only version of Embraceable You. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jostber Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Just received "The Great Jazz Piano of Phineas Newborn Jr.". Absolutely wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest donald petersen Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 newborn definitely totally owns piano music on "we three". really a great performance by all involved but he stands out to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomastreichler Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 I am a big fan of Phineas Newborn, who IMHO is one of the giants of jazz piano. I have the following records and I love them all: Here Is Phineas (Collectables) Fabulous Phineas (BMG) Plays Again! (Blue Moon) with an italian rhythm section, sound is mediocre World Of Piano (OJC) The Great Jazz Piano Of Phineas Newborn Jr. (OJC) Phineas, The Newborn Touch (OJC) Harlem Blues (OJC) Please Send Me Someone To Love (OJC) As sideman: Roy Haynes, We Three (OJC) Howard McGhee, Maggie Is Back In Town! (OJC) Teddy Edwards / Howard McGhee, Together Again! (OJC) Added Look Out - Phineas Is Back! to my collection: a wonderful album. Now I am searching for a decently priced copy of Back Home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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