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I dunno, I'll be keeping mine but am eager to hear "Mephistopheles" again. I had a cassette of the tune at one point, and it's a monster - much freer than the version on Wayne's date.

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Can't keep them all, wish I could.

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Perhaps shamefully I've no Marion Brown, is this a good place to start ?

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YES.

This and "Three for Shepp" on Impulse.

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An interesting sidenote: Marion has said that this was recorded before Ascension, making it a Summer (rather than mid-November) 1965 date. Curious...

Mike?

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An interesting sidenote: Marion has said that this was recorded before Ascension, making it a Summer (rather than mid-November) 1965 date. Curious...

Mike?

That would also place it before Wayne's 'All Seeing Eye' session (October 15th)...

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Clifford, I met Marion Brown in the fall of 1965 and he had not recorded a session under his name yet.

For personal reasons, I can say that the November 1965 recording date is a no contest affirmation!

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Perhaps shamefully I've no Marion Brown, is this a good place to start ?

'Why Not?' (ESP1040) is another good one.

Brown, Stanley Cowell, Sirone and Rashied Ali are the quartet.

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Perhaps *released* before Ascension? I'd have to look into it. Maybe ESP had a quicker turnaround time than Impulse?

Mike

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Huh. I'm going from the horse's mouth, but memory can get foggy I suppose. He was quite adamant about it being after Fire Music and before Ascension...

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I guess we can hope to learn when the *other* session for ESP 1022 occurred.

When did you get this from Brown? In my experience, some people are good with dates and sequence and some people are way off. Just saw an interview with Wayne Shorter where he was placing Africaine (with Blakey) as around 1962 - it's from 1959.

Mike

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Mike,

Is this interview online?

Bertrand.

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Did anyone mention that ESP-Disk is reissuing this title on August 2nd?

Ah ha! :excited:

No track listing for it so far, though, so no telling if it will be 3 or 4 tracks...

<_<

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When did you get this from Brown? In my experience, some people are good with dates and sequence and some people are way off.

About a month or so ago... who knows.

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Did anyone mention that ESP-Disk is reissuing this title on August 2nd?

Ah ha! :excited:

No track listing for it so far, though, so no telling if it will be 3 or 4 tracks...

<_<

Tracklist is up now... 4 tracks!

Of course I just bought a 3 track version of it... (I still don't understand the ESP CD reissue situation... Calibre, Abraxas, Get/Abraxas Mini-LPs... I guess those are all European-produced and licensed? And ESP is doing its own series in the US? And wasn't there talk about their own reissues being CDRs?)

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They have CDRs of some titles for now, until they remaster the catalog completely... though I doubt that some lesser titles will (or need to be) reissued, especially from the 'pop' catalogue.

As I see it, the Euro versions are copies whose licenses have run out, though most distributors still stock them. Domestic ESPs are currently the only authorised versions in print.

If you get the 4-track version that is out, you will not only get a nicely-done master of all known original takes, but liner notes by yours truly from an interview that I did with Marion this past Spring. And to this day, he still counters that he made the ESP first...

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They have CDRs of some titles for now, until they remaster the catalog completely... though I doubt that some lesser titles will (or need to be) reissued, especially from the 'pop' catalogue.

As I see it, the Euro versions are copies whose licenses have run out, though most distributors still stock them. Domestic ESPs are currently the only authorised versions in print.

If you get the 4-track version that is out, you will not only get a nicely-done master of all known original takes, but liner notes by yours truly from an interview that I did with Marion this past Spring. And to this day, he still counters that he made the ESP first...

Ok, I see a little bit clearer now, thanks! I will definitely add the Brown to the list!

Thanks to you and to Brownie for relating all the memories to the young ones like me!

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Eh, I'm just a toddler compared to Brownie!

alright alright... we all know brownie is... uhm, ancient? :P

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Eh, I'm just a toddler compared to Brownie!

alright alright... we all know brownie is... uhm, ancient? :P

Ancient?

I'm like old wine!

Just need a new bottle :P

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Eh, I'm just a toddler compared to Brownie!

alright alright... we all know brownie is... uhm, ancient? :P

Ancient?

I'm like old wine!

Just need a new bottle :P

:D

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