mailman Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 (edited) is there a chance concord will let people like water records issue some of the good stuff which never be seeing the light of day (jerry hahn, jack dejohnette, azar lawrence, etc) through them? I've got the Azar Lawrence LP 'Summer Solstice' and it's nothing to write home about. Fairly typical of a lot of what was getting recorded at that time but hardly of great interest or import thirty years later. I've never heard his other two which also came out on Prestige. His recordings with Tyner are strong. Edited December 1, 2005 by mailman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluerein Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 The Garland will fit easily on 2 cd's. The Japanese set (which I have too) is indeed 3 cd because of the 1 disc per set......a rip off so to speak! I geuss they'll use the same remastering (20 Bit Digital K2) for the US set as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill B Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 I think it will fit on 2 CDs (the previous US CD reissue Red Garland at the Prelude, Vol. 1 had 13 tracks and 76 minutes playing time, Stretching Out featured six tracks from the show which make up around 45 minutes of that CD. This leaves four tracks, which mustn't be over 38 minutes together). I don't have this material myself, but my speculation is that the Japanese released it on three CDs because Garland's Prelude appearance consisted of three sets - one set per CD. Daniel A,I believe your speculation is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest akanalog Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 is there a chance concord will let people like water records issue some of the good stuff which never be seeing the light of day (jerry hahn, jack dejohnette, azar lawrence, etc) through them? I've got the Azar Lawrence LP 'Summer Solstice' and it's nothing to write home about. Fairly typical of a lot of what was getting recorded at that time but hardly of great interest or import thirty years later. I've never heard his other two which also came out on Prestige. His recordings with Tyner are strong. well i like summer solstice! especially that song highway or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 I'll pass on all of these, well, except maybe the Hawk RVG - and concentrate instead on previous Fantasy releases that may be deleted anytime in the future. There's so much Phil Woods, Zoot Sims, Milt Jackson, Basie, Hampton Hawes etc stuff that I haven't checked out... I'm with LAL - get the Fantasy stuff before those buggers at Concord wipe it all out. As for seeing any more old Fantasy stuff emerge under the tender auspices of Concord; forget it! MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Has there ever been a cd release of the complete December 24, 1954 Miles date with Monk? One that includes the fasle starts and arguements? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted December 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Has there ever been a cd release of the complete December 24, 1954 Miles date with Monk? One that includes the fasle starts and arguements? Medjuck, I believe that Disc 3 of the Complete Prestige Monk box fits the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 is there a chance concord will let people like water records issue some of the good stuff which never be seeing the light of day (jerry hahn, jack dejohnette, azar lawrence, etc) through them? I've got the Azar Lawrence LP 'Summer Solstice' and it's nothing to write home about. Fairly typical of a lot of what was getting recorded at that time but hardly of great interest or import thirty years later. I've never heard his other two which also came out on Prestige. His recordings with Tyner are strong. well i like summer solstice! especially that song highway or whatever. 'Bridge Into the New Age', the first one, was the great Azar Lawrence album. 'Summer Solstice' was good, 'People Moving' was his commercial move, to me a disaster. He never recorded again as a leader, and indeed I never heard of him again. The best documents of his playing are on McCoy Tyner's 'Enlightenment' and 'Atlantis', live 2LP sets recorded at Montreux '73 and Keystone Korner '74. 'Enlightenment' is especially amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Wood Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Woody Shaw is on that Bridge to a New Age lp, I believe. I like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMP Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Isn't Sonny Fortune on "Enlightenment?" Whoever, it's a strong album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 (edited) Isn't Sonny Fortune on "Enlightenment?" Whoever, it's a strong album. Fortune was on 'Sahara' (coming to an AOTW near you) and 'Song For My Lady'. Lawrence was on 'Enlightnement' and 'Atlantis'. After that, horn players became superfluous for Tyner, even normally really strong ones like George Adams and Gary Bartz. Shaw is very strong on 'Bridge Into the New Age'. Edited December 2, 2005 by felser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 It looks like Concord will continue to repackage most saleable items in the Fantasy the catalog in new configurations. I was afraid so - although I think Fantasy should have done that a long time ago instead of reissuing the music in the scattered fashion of the old LPs. Completing sessions is always a good thing, IMHO. Has there ever been a cd release of the complete December 24, 1954 Miles date with Monk? One that includes the fasle starts and arguements? Medjuck, I believe that Disc 3 of the Complete Prestige Monk box fits the bill. IIRC the "false starts and arguments" have never been released. At least they're not in that box. But all the music is there, that was spread over 3 different LPs and their CD counterparts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 IIRC the "false starts and arguments" have never been released. At least they're not in that box. But all the music is there, that was spread over 3 different LPs and their CD counterparts. The intro and arguement (as on the original lp) is on disc 3 of the Monk/Prestige box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcello Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) 'Bridge Into the New Age', the first one, was the great Azar Lawrence album. 'Summer Solstice' was good, 'People Moving' was his commercial move, to me a disaster. He never recorded again as a leader, and indeed I never heard of him again. The best documents of his playing are on McCoy Tyner's 'Enlightenment' and 'Atlantis', live 2LP sets recorded at Montreux '73 and Keystone Korner '74. 'Enlightenment' is especially amazing. Azar Lawrence is living in L.A. I see news of him every once in a while on Leroy Downs' Blog, The JazzCat Edited December 2, 2005 by marcello Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Great to hear. I did some googling, and he apparently recorded at the Vanguard with Tyner in '05, and has been playing some in LA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 IIRC the "false starts and arguments" have never been released. At least they're not in that box. But all the music is there, that was spread over 3 different LPs and their CD counterparts. The intro and arguement (as on the original lp) is on disc 3 of the Monk/Prestige box. Oh the pleasures of an aging brain ..... of course it's there - they had left it off the Miles Davis box set ... whatever that means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron S Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 IIRC the "false starts and arguments" have never been released. At least they're not in that box. But all the music is there, that was spread over 3 different LPs and their CD counterparts. The intro and arguement (as on the original lp) is on disc 3 of the Monk/Prestige box. Oh the pleasures of an aging brain ..... of course it's there - they had left it off the Miles Davis box set ... whatever that means. Are you guys just talking about the false start and Miles' scolding of the others on the first take of "The Man I Love," which also appears on "Miles Davis and the Modern Jazz Giants" CDs? Or is there additional "argument" from that session on Disc 3 of the Monk Prestige box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) IIRC the "false starts and arguments" have never been released. At least they're not in that box. But all the music is there, that was spread over 3 different LPs and their CD counterparts. The intro and arguement (as on the original lp) is on disc 3 of the Monk/Prestige box. Oh the pleasures of an aging brain ..... of course it's there - they had left it off the Miles Davis box set ... whatever that means. Are you guys just talking about the false start and Miles' scolding of the others on the first take of "The Man I Love," which also appears on "Miles Davis and the Modern Jazz Giants" CDs? Or is there additional "argument" from that session on Disc 3 of the Monk Prestige box? And what were the original 3 Lps? I only remember 2. Unless you're referring to the 10 inch releases which I don't know much about. (I think Jack Chambers writes about The Man I Love as one side of a 10 inch.) BTW The argument was with Monk. He was pissed because Miles told him not to comp behind him. Edited December 2, 2005 by medjuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron S Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 BTW The argument was with Monk. He was pissed because Miles told him not to comp behind him. True, but the only discussion/argument from this session that I've ever actually heard is after the false start on the first take of "The Man I Love," and I was wondering if there's any other recorded discussion that was released on, e.g., the Monk Prestige Box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted January 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 April 4: Miles Davis Quintet featuring John Coltrane - The Legendary Quintet Sessions (Prestige) (3CD/DVD) I received word today that this First Quintet box's street date has been postponed till May 23, closer to Miles' birthday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Will there now be stickers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted January 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 'Produced by Vincent Wilburn, supervised (at a distance) by Bob Weinstock'. Bertrand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bol Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Is it safe to assume that the 20-bit K2 series is now dead? What a crying shame! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcoliv Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 the perfect question Bol if someone can provide an official answer to that i'd appreciate Marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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