Saint Vitus Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 (edited) Could the essay "Underappreciated genius of Spandau Ballet shines brightly thanks to SACD" be far behind? In a related story, someone has written 999th installment of the "I bought this CD without knowing much about the music in it just because Steve Hoffman mastered it" series at the Hoffman forum. Edited July 16, 2003 by Saint Vitus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 I'm skeptical of any recording 'popular' enough to have been released on SACD... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 I'm skeptical of any recording 'popular' enough to have been released on SACD... You mean like "Blue Train" or "A love Supreme?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert h. Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 Greg Maltz will buy it. It's slim pickings for the desperate, particularly if they are engaged in a one-man boycott of CD. The Spandau Ballet isn't the hot news for Greg, though. That's the upcoming SACD of Shania Twain's Up. Tge ramp up is continuing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 (edited) I think i missed the sarcasm of the original post. For what it's worth (probably not much to the jazzers here) but I think "True" is a mighty fine early 80s pop album! What's exactly wrong with releasing it on SACD? (I won't buy it, but the original LP is fine by me.) Edited July 16, 2003 by RDK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 (edited) I'm skeptical of any recording 'popular' enough to have been released on SACD... You mean like "Blue Train" or "A love Supreme?" Ok, clearly not every SACD release... But, over the years, it's been my observation that the majority of "audiophile" releases are (at least more often than not), (re)releases of material that doesn't push the envelope, never did push the envelope (except 50 to 150 years before, in the case of classical recordings, of things like Mahler and Beethoven), and wouldn't even think of pushing the envelope. (Meaning most of them are pretty "safe" material.) There are exceptions, to be sure. Many of them, probably. But, in principal, I think my statement is largely true. I can't count the number of times I've read or seen references to "audiophile LP" releases of the most pedantic material imaginable. I'm not saying it's a hard-n-fast rule, but to my estimation, there sure are a hell of a lot of audiophile issues of some pretty damn "nice" material out there. (And that word "nice" is very much "in quotes", if you know what I mean.) Surely I'm not the only one who's had this observation??? Or perhaps it’s better with SACD's than with audiophile LP's. I remember getting some catalog in the mail a few years ago (late 90's), listing a ton of audiophile LP's, many of them even 45-rmp issues of 12" platters, presenting what was one 33-rpm LP (originally), now spread over two 12" 45's. And I remember thinking at the time that nearly all the selections in this catalog were for people who were way more into $20,000 turntables, and $500 needles, and the “SOUND” of the record... ...than they ever were interested in the “MUSIC”. Shit, if I remember right - there were even several Boston Pops recordings from the 50's in there, and other such nonsense. I'm not saying that music has no redeeming value, but to go to all that "sonic" trouble, for that!! - was and is totally beyond me. [/soapbox] Edited July 17, 2003 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert h. Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 100% right. Audiophiles tend to be VERY conservative in their music. And to have very narrow range to their tastes. Witness how often the same stuff gets recycled over and over. And none very adventurous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 Thankyou!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 God, how I HATE that song... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Dye Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 (edited) God, how I HATE that song... What!?! Edited July 17, 2003 by Jim Dye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GregM Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 (edited) Have you guys heard the PM Dawn version? Well, let me know if you think this is narrow musical taste. Some of my recent purchases on SACD: Dr. Ali Akar Khan: Indian Architexture Isaac Hayes: Hot Buttered Soul Beethoven: Kleiber, Symphonies 5 & 7 Olatunji: Drums of Passion Groove Armada: Goodbye Country Hello Nightclub Joe Chambers: Urban Grooves Schubert: Solo Piano works/Volodos John Coltrane: Blue Train Police: Ghost in the Machine Kodo: Mondo Head Schumann, Dvorak: Piano Concertos/Paolo Giacometti Lightnin Hopkins: Broken Hearted Blues Miles Davis: Steamin' I'm also on the verge of ordering a bunch of Venus Jazz SACDs by the likes of Kuhn and Eddie Higgins. I'm planning to get the new Macy Gray, and maybe the Aimee Mann, as well as JOHN WILLIAMS(the guitarist) Rodrigo: Concierto de Aranjuez - Fantasia para un gentilhombre / Villa-Lobos: Co and MIDORI Bruch & Mendelssohn Violin Concertos when they come out on SACD (soon). And of course the Dylan. Then there's the OJC SACDs in August as well as the Verves (Sarah Vaughn and Basie--April in Paris) and the Impulse (Trane and Hartman). Hopefully there will be a lot more where those are concerned, though I can barely keep up as it is. I admit there is not a lot of jazz aside from the most overplayed material, but there is some, pretty far off the beaten path actually. More enticingly, there is a lot of music of other cultures and a lot of classical. And it's enjoyable to rediscover the old rock favorites with all the effortless detail and extended highs. But nope, nothing good or varied on SACD. Don't have the Spandau Ballet, but I do have the Jennifer Lopez: On the Six, which I was surprised to find myself enjoying quite a bit, and my female friends enjoy it too. So, yeah, I'm just a stilted audiophile who doesn't know how to enjoy music. Edited July 19, 2003 by GregM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 [And I remember thinking at the time that nearly all the selections in this catalog were for people who were way more into $20,000 turntables, and $500 needles, and the “SOUND” of the record... ...than they ever were interested in the “MUSIC”. Dude, noone plays records on a $20,000 turntable with a $500 cartridge. That'd be unhip. Sounds like you got an anti-audiophile thing going. FYI, audiophiles saved mucho music you listen to today. Many a historic recording exist today only because a nutty collector fished it out of the trash in someone's attic[spandau Ballet not including]. I don't think I have records like that, but I tell you, they sure sound nice on a good turntable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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