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How about Nat Cole backed by the Oscar Peterson Trio and Coleman Hawkins!

And introduced by, I believe, William B. Williams from, among other things, the old 'Lectric Shave commercials!

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Holy crap, that was hilarious... I was just watching a clip of ELP playing "Knife Edge" and Keith Emerson launches into some Bach after his totally lame synth solo (featuring his big stick thingy) and in the middle of the Bach exercise he TURNS THE PAGE ON A TINY SHEET OF MUSIC SITTING ON THE ORGAN RACK!!!

:rofl:

ROCK N ROLL!!!!!!!!!!

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Yardbirds Featuring Jimmy Page Live in Baton Rouge, French-TV 1967. Setlist Includes Train Kept A Rollin', Dazed And Confused, and Goodnight Sweet Josephine.

FYI, the Dazed and Confused clip starts approx. when the slider-bar is shifted over to about the second "m" in the word "Post Comments" (which appears right below the slider bar). Wish these things had time indexes.

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For the guitar tapping freaks: http://www.youtube.com/w/Goldberg-Variatio...ugI&search=bach

That's what I was actually looking for (this one is for the Svankmajer fans):

http://www.youtube.com/w/Jan-Svankmajer%3A...xGA&search=bach

The Bach query result also has a live snippet of the Mr. Gone bassist playing Chromatic Fantasy:

http://www.youtube.com/w/Jaco-Pastorius---...Qfs&search=bach

That's it, for now.

:eye::crazy:

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February 3, 2006

Critic's Notebook

A New Trove of Music Video in the Web's Wild World

By BEN RATLIFF

SEVERAL weeks back, someone directed me to a Web site to see a clip of George Clinton and the Parliaments, in you-will-freak-out tones. I looked on the Internet at youtube.com and found my way to it. I was freaked out, though not just by the music.

There is Mr. Clinton, in 1969, on "Say Brother," a television show produced by WGBH in Boston. (This is early Clinton, even before Funkadelic's first album; the Parliaments would soon become Funkadelic.) He is wearing a purple jumpsuit with crossed suspenders over bare shoulders and a kind of rounded Mohawk, a shaved band of scalp below a bulbous crown of hair.

The band plays a series of vamps. The first builds on Sly and the Family Stone's "Into My Own Thing." "What is soul?" Mr. Clinton yells, in the middle of the song. "What, brother?" responds the band's other lead singer, Fuzzy Haskins. "Soul is the hamhock in your cornflakes!" Mr. Clinton intones.

After a break, the Parliaments stretch out at length, playing their acid-Motown for almost 10 minutes, going from vamp to vamp; at a climax, Mr. Clinton rolls on the floor. The band becomes a mob of rising fists and shaking hips. The sequence ends with the guitarist Eddie Hazell detuning his strings and distributing a cloud of feedback, with various band members whacking cymbals.

I am not a collector of music, or of video. I have had friends play me the best clips from their music video collections, in full, collectorish, this-will-freak-you-out mode, and enjoyed it. Still, I don't really love music on video, per se. It reduces a performance so brutally.

But a missing link of performance history as potent as that George Clinton thing? Even if on bad video? It's hard not to keep looking. Over the last few weeks, I have been looking at YouTube until my head hurts.

Part of that headache comes from watching blurry images on a small screen. Part of it comes from annoyance at a lack of annotation: there's so little information given about what you're seeing. And part of it, I admit, is the worry that it all may soon disappear, or move to someplace on the Internet that will be harder to sniff out.

YouTube, based in San Mateo, Calif., is an amateur video-sharing site that had its official debut on Dec. 15, after a seven-month public development. It makes its money from text-only banner advertisements, running at the top and bottom of its Web page.

Like myspace.com, YouTube will serve as host to anyone's personal Web page, listing the subscriber's age, gender, relationship status, interests and so on. Much of its content is home videos, not just music, which subscribers upload from their digital cameras to their own individual YouTube sites. Among them are videos made by soldiers in Iraq war zones.

As you can imagine, some extremely bad amateur music-making has also been filmed, in peaceful territories. Anyone can watch a video on YouTube with a high-speed Internet connection. It couldn't be easier. The viewer streams the video, rather than downloading a file; it is not a peer-to-peer site, the kind that the Supreme Court has gone after.

Assenting to YouTube's terms of use, a potential uploader must aver that he has the necessary licenses and permissions for each clip he uploads, including the consent of every person in the clip. The assurance of the uploader is all that's asked for, at least until a copyright holder with a potential copyright issue approaches the company. (YouTube has a staff of only 20, and the only censorship they have exercised thus far is of "inappropriate" material, meaning pornography.)

If the copyright holder of a video that has been bootlegged complains about an illegal upload on YouTube, said Chad Hurley, the company's chief executive, it will immediately shut down the link, thereby canceling anyone's ability to see it then and thereafter — because nobody has downloaded it. YouTube had one million visitors in November, and three million in December. Julie Supan, the company's marketing director, said YouTube is now up to more than 10 million videos viewed daily. "We're streaming 115 videos a second," she said, "6,944 per minute."

There are other such sites for home videographers, including Vimeo, Google and clips.tv. But if you type "Al Green" into video.google.com, you will access a man in his bathrobe singing along tunelessly to "Let's Stay Together" as a dubious present to his girlfriend. Type "Al Green" into YouTube, and you will find four appearances by the Rev. Al Green on "Soul Train" in the early 1970's, exercising his serene control over the audience. Likewise, type "Sarah Vaughan" into Vimeo: nothing. Type it into YouTube and you get Vaughan at the height of her powers in 1951 on television, singing "You're Not the Kind."

But there is little information attached to the Vaughan clip, of the kind that an official release or a real audiovisual library would provide. Eric Kulberg of Universal Media, a small Washington-based company that researches and licenses music clips for television documentaries, says it comes from a 1950's television series called "Showtime at the Apollo"; that it was probably filmed at the Apollo Theater; and that the clip may have been shown on public television at some time in the last 25 years. He does not believe, he added, that it is commercially available.

The lack of information with these music clips is a logistical problem. There are also, obviously, legal and ethical problems with many of the clips on YouTube. David Peck of Reelin' In the Years Productions, which calls itself the largest library of music footage in the world, owns rights to some of the clips that have been uploaded to YouTube without proper rights clearance. Among these are clips of Howlin' Wolf performing at the American Folk Blues Festival in 1964, which have been commercially released on DVD.

Mr. Peck was aware of YouTube and said he had two reactions to the situation. "One is 'You jerks, you have no right,' " he said. "We pay the Howlin' Wolf estate when we sell that DVD. The other is, 'What can I do?' I'm not a big company. I have fought many big companies before who have used my footage and I've won every single time. I protect the rights. But there are so many bootleggers out there. I am not condoning this. But if it takes me $5,000 in legal fees, I've blown my next couple of royalty checks."

Informed that YouTube was a company with employees, not just a fly-by-night Web site, Mr. Peck changed his tone. "That's a different story," he said. "That's very disturbing."

A spokesman for the Recording Industry Association of America maintained the organization's blanket position: that uploading or distributing copyrighted material, without permission from the copyright holder, is illegal.

Whitney Broussard, an entertainment lawyer specializing in music, says YouTube seems to be protected by a safe harbor in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998, which says that in such cases with streaming media, if the copyright holder protests and asks YouTube to shut down the link, and if the company promptly complies, then it is legally clear. (Ms. Supan of YouTube said the same thing.)

Of course, shutting down a particular link will not ensure that a bootlegged video will just go away. Andrew Solt of Sofa Entertainment, who holds copyright on the "Ed Sullivan Show" library, said he recently spent two days with a lawyer and two assistants preparing the necessary paperwork for YouTube to eliminate its links to uploaded bootleg Sullivan shows. YouTube complied. The next day, Mr. Solt said, they were all online again, presumably uploaded by someone else.

YouTube's simplicity has been an attraction for bands, too. Plenty of them, or their record labels, have been uploading video footage to YouTube for promotional purposes, YouTube says; they include current groups like We Are Scientists, Pretty Girls Make Graves, Early Man and Taking Back Sunday. (Even Nike has begun to use YouTube to its own ends, the Web site says, stealthily putting its products in sports video clips that don't look like ads.) The other day, a publicist for Sparks, an aging cult band with a new album, suggested that I go to YouTube to look at a 30-year-old clip of the group on television, which had not been uploaded by the band or its label.

In my own YouTube searches, first I went back in my past, curious to see again the things that I have been replaying in my head over the years from chance television encounters — like Nat King Cole and Ella Fitzgerald on Cole's television show, or Public Image Ltd. on "Top of the Pops," or Black Sabbath in an early-70's European concert.

But quickly I found my way to other things, which I had heard about but had filed into myth, films I thought I might never see: clips from the notorious, rarely shown Bob Dylan documentary "Eat the Document"; a staggering James Brown performance at a Boston concert in 1968; Hound Dog Taylor at a mid-60's blues festival; Black Flag throwing down at a club in 1984, when Henry Rollins was a 98-pound weakling. Brazilian music fans have begun to upload their collections, and they have their work cut out for them: the history of Brazilian popular music over the last 50 years has been closely intertwined with television. There is very little jazz as yet.

It's stupefying to know what's out there. Perhaps its shady proliferation will hasten official, high-quality versions, videos that do not provoke headaches and could properly expand everybody's understanding of history's greatest performing artists.

"I don't think there would be a market for all this stuff on YouTube," Mr. Peck said, "if everyone — artists, labels, publishers and rights holders — could get together and find reasonable ways to release it."

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I've been surfing videos at youtube.com over the past few days, having recently discovered them. There are some interesting things there, both musically and otherwise.

This one is a fun blast from the past:

Herbie Hancock - Rockit live in 1984

Those moonwalking mannequins look more human than Michael Jackson

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no it's eddie jobson, not JLP.

and i think that is don grolnick way in the back on keys?!?!?

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Holy crap, that was hilarious... I was just watching a clip of ELP playing "Knife Edge" and Keith Emerson launches into some Bach after his totally lame synth solo (featuring his big stick thingy) and in the middle of the Bach exercise he TURNS THE PAGE ON A TINY SHEET OF MUSIC SITTING ON THE ORGAN RACK!!!

:rofl:

ROCK N ROLL!!!!!!!!!!

Very disturbing video. WAY too much Greg Lake nipple action for my taste.

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Bireli Lagrene & John McLaughlin doing All Blues

Here they are doing Voodoo Chile with Keziah Jones.

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no it's eddie jobson, not JLP.

and i think that is don grolnick way in the back on keys?!?!?

Yeah, that's Jobson. Bozzio on drums, Ruth Underwood on tuned percussion, Patrick O'hearn on bass. My guess is Ray White on 2nd guitar (I have one just like that, Gibon L-6S Deluxe). Pretty crappy nth generation dub...it's too dark to see who else is in that band.

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I still don't get tired of this hit. Quentin Coryatt ended being the #2 overall draft pick because of it, and broke the receiver's jaw in three places. Unfortunately he never did anything in the NFL, and disappeared.

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Naked City live.

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I still don't get tired of this hit. Quentin Coryatt ended being the #2 overall draft pick because of it, and broke the receiver's jaw in three places. Unfortunately he never did anything in the NFL, and disappeared.

Dude, that's awesome...

... not.

One more reason football sucks.

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I still don't get tired of this hit. Quentin Coryatt ended being the #2 overall draft pick because of it, and broke the receiver's jaw in three places. Unfortunately he never did anything in the NFL, and disappeared.

Dude, that's awesome...

... not.

One more reason football sucks.

Sorry you don't like football. It doesn't suck. I sympathise with the guy who got hurt...and indeed with all of the guys who have had career ending injuries (Reggie Brown, Dennis Byrd, whoever). It's a violent sport, and the people who voluntarily play it know that.

edit - I apologize for including that clip in this thread however, since I started it for the purpose of sharing music clips.

Edited by Aggie87

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definitely ray white. why does he get less than a second of screentime? lame.

well you are right, the whole thing is a bit lame, 7/4.

however it looks like fun to be the guy doing the tympani rolls.

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