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Is there that one "mystery" hard bop record

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....now i know you find weird shit all the time you didnt know was out there, but thats besides the point. Basically, i want to ask, do any of you feel there is that one (or perhaps neumours) "jazz mystery record/s" that will unlock the secret door to another realm of post 50s pre 70s jazz, or do we basically know the bulk of whats out there. like we know what blue note and prestige and columbia etc et. al record and shit. and we know even the smaller labels. we dont know the bootlegs very well (do we) but i think we know the bulk if not most of whats out there. is this true. what the hel. whos knows what is up w/ this

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Have you checked out George Russell's 50s work?

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Or laying off the drugs?

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Have you checked out George Russell's 50s work?

So predictable.

seek and destroy:

Nervous Pervis and the Jitters: Nail Biter's Bop

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All right then, George Russell's 40s work...

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Hell, how about Bartok?

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Or even Chipmunks B-Sides?

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That's Almost Good!

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Big Nick Nicholas!

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What was the question again?

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Oh yeah, secret doors to another realm of post 50s pre 70s jazz.

Ernie Henry, there's another one.

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Teo Macero on tenor. So near to Warne, yet so far...

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Mal Waldron, pre-breakdown.

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Mal Waldron, POST-breakdown.

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Hell, how about Bartok?

Perhaps Aric needs a good dose of some of this. Nothing will fuck you up as much as...

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In particular, Alban Berg's Lyric Suite, for string quartet, along with his earlier String Quartet, Op. 3 --- were two of the most eye-opening experiences in my entire musical life, along with the two.

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Big Nick Nicholas!

I have his "Big Nick" album on India Navigation. But I don't think it solves any mysteries.

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Conlon Nancarrow, now THERE'S another realm!

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Big Nick Nicholas!

I have his "Big Nick" album on India Navigation. But I don't think it solves any mysteries.

Indeed not! If anything, it creates one. Namely, "Who the hell thought it would be a good idea to let this cat SING?" :D :D :D

But check him out w/Dizzy in Paris, or with Miles and Jaws at Birdland. Now THAT'S some shit!

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Predictable would be George Crumb.

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Conlon Nancarrow, now THERE'S another realm!

No shit!!! And you know, I'd seriously pay good money to read a lengthy post from Aric in response to him listening to a bunch of Nancarrow.

And, you know what else?? - I think Aric could actually kinda half-way get into Nancarrow --- maybe with a little chemical encouragement, perhaps. ;)

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damn jim, I don't even understand the question and you have more than one answer?

I don't understand the question either, Couw, but Jim does it for post counts!! :party:

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damn jim, I don't even understand the question and you have more than one answer?

You don't have to understand the question, you just have to understand Aric!!! :P

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You know what's cool? Those Columbia recordings Lotte Lenya did of all the Kurt Weil shit. I like to A-B those with Gil Evans' arrangements of the same tunes.

Too bad Gil & Miles never did THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS.

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Hey, I just had a crazy thought...

What if Aric and Hardbop are actually one in the same guy, sort of a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde kind of thing???

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damn jim, I don't even understand the question and you have more than one answer?

You don't have to understand the question, you just have to understand Aric!!! :P

No, the question is a simple one (well, as simple as things get with Aric when he posts loaded, or seemingly loaded) - what records might be out there that go into someplace different than the what "we" already "know". I know that Aric's hip to Ra & Tristano, so those two REALLY obvious choices aren't an option. He was talking post 50s, pre 70s jazz, but a "hard bop" record, which basically means "jazz". Well, ok, we've gone beyond those parameters, but so did the kind of musicinas he's looking for.

OK, that's not a simple answer, but if I get the gist of the question, it's "what else is there that relates".

Berg relates, Bartok DEFINITELY relates (Reiner's CONCERTO FOR ORCHESTRA, Dude, get it NOW), all this stuff relates.

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