AndrewHill Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Nice pic of Threadgill Enterprise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 (edited) I like Threadgill, and I like the *idea* of Threadgill, and I've enjoyed hearing him live, but for whatever reason many of his recordings now leave me cold. There will always be a place in my heart for Just the Facts, and of the trios (most or all of which I own in one or other format) I generally reach for the Nessa. Though I was excited to hear the double tuba group in concert I never felt the recordings worked that well. I never warmed to the Columbias at all. It's the kind of thing I might come back to and feel differently again, but that's how it stands for me with the recordings at this moment. I'd go to a Threadgill concert any day of the week though and be thrilled to be there. Edited May 30, 2009 by David Ayers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 I never warmed to the Columbias at all. I think 'Makin' a Move' is interesting just for the arrangements alone, but 'Where's Your Cup', IMO is a minor masterpiece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesbro Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Henry Threadgill is definitely different. He's got a very unique style and I'm finding I like his music more and more. Can anyone recommend anything by him that's maybe a little more accessible than his Make A Move stuff? You might try "Too Much Sugar For a Dime", for something more accessible. I got 'Sugar' and love it. Where should I go now? I'd like another one that is similar to 'Sugar' and that would not be included in the Mosaic box, as I plan to save for that too. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATR Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Henry Threadgill is definitely different. He's got a very unique style and I'm finding I like his music more and more. Can anyone recommend anything by him that's maybe a little more accessible than his Make A Move stuff? You might try "Too Much Sugar For a Dime", for something more accessible. I got 'Sugar' and love it. Where should I go now? I'd like another one that is similar to 'Sugar' and that would not be included in the Mosaic box, as I plan to save for that too. Thanks Mosaic Box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesbro Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Henry Threadgill is definitely different. He's got a very unique style and I'm finding I like his music more and more. Can anyone recommend anything by him that's maybe a little more accessible than his Make A Move stuff? You might try "Too Much Sugar For a Dime", for something more accessible. I got 'Sugar' and love it. Where should I go now? I'd like another one that is similar to 'Sugar' and that would not be included in the Mosaic box, as I plan to save for that too. Thanks Mosaic Box? Threadgill Mosaic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 All interested parties should buy ATR's three Threadgill recordings. They are wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Thanks for the reminder, Chuck! I just ordered the two that are out on CD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesbro Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 (edited) I got "Song out of my Trees" and it is amazing. Got it a couple of days ago and have played about 5 times. The ATRs are my next stop, I see they are in stock at the jazzloft, might as well grab some CD sleeves too. Edited January 22, 2010 by bluesbro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted May 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Why Not is issuing Air Raid on CD next week. http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=8168620&style=music&meid=11889&x=3984681413601 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 Thanks for bumping this thread... played a whole lot of Air last week, as well as the recent Soul Note/Black Saint Threadgill box from CAM Jazz (including two Air and two New Air discs, Song Out of My Trees, Spirit of Nuff... Nuff, and Flutistry), as well as the two About Time discs again. "Just the Facts and Pass the Bucket" was my favourite among them all! The Nessa Air is totally fabulous, too, though, and most likely the best of the bunch of Airs that I played!Oh, and "Just the Facts..." would win just about about every "best album title" contest... now pass the..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Just got tix to see Zooid at SF Jazz in a couple of months. Looking forward to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWayne Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 I still have regrets that I could not catch Henry Threadgill and ZOOID at the Jazz Gallert last February as my trip to NYC was cancelled due to the snow. Can anyone advise a web resource that my list his (infrequent) touring schedule? Also, any comments on the "Up Popped the Tape" LP? I was thinking of trying to track down that vinyl for a friend of mine in Germany. Thanks, LWayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocispepraluger102 Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 I still have regrets that I could not catch Henry Threadgill and ZOOID at the Jazz Gallert last February as my trip to NYC was cancelled due to the snow. Can anyone advise a web resource that my list his (infrequent) touring schedule? Also, any comments on the "Up Popped the Tape" LP? I was thinking of trying to track down that vinyl for a friend of mine in Germany. Thanks, LWayne x75, from the 70s, never committed to cd, as far as i know, is my fav, if you can find it, and the incredibe air stuff, of course. too much sugar is a personal fav. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 FYI... Henry Threadgill and Zooid & Muhal Richard Abrams/George Lewis (Duo) at The Community Church of New York 40 East 35th Street New York, NY September 24 · 8:00pm - 10:00pm Outpost Performance Space 10.01.10 to 10.02.10 tba albuquerque, NM HENRY THREADGILL ZOOID Herbst Theatre 10.03.10 Henry Threadgill Zooid roulette 11.11.10 to 11.13.10 TBA new york, NY Henry Threadgill Zooid +++3 nights, 3 different configurations+++ with So Percussion with Flux String Quartet http://www.christopherhoffman.com/html/itinerary.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Herbst Theatre 10.03.10 Henry Threadgill Zooid already got tix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Hawkins Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Just noticed that this is coming next month - very excited to hear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Those cheeky CD selling folks - following up the 40 minute Vol I with a 42 minute second volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Why blame the label? Threadgill has said he thinks 40 minutes is the perfect length for a musical program. I agree with this in most instances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Heh heh. I'm only being mean. Actually I agree - forty minutes keeps it tight. I like things edited down I don't have time to listen to filler!! In any case I listened to the first one on my streaming service, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 I'll say something about the music. I am surprised by Threadgill's patience in sticking with improvisation. There really are difficulties in creating effects in group imrov once you go beyond the forms of classic jazz. Except for the use of what can be almost true polyphony in early jazz, classic jazz has always been a homophonic music (lead voice and continuo). The notes to this new album describe an eight year preparation period in getting the group to deliver a music which I agree is successful (and, I'd say, better than much of HT's previous recorded work). But eight years is a long time to get people to improvise something which could just have been written by a composer. If I set this against Harrison Birtwistle's early Tragoedia and mid-period Secret Theatre, I have to conclude that Birtwistle develops similar tastes to HT further than HT does. Much further, I'd say, and while it might be thought that improv can secure more spontaneous performances than composed music, I'd also say that when I heard Secret Theatre in concert the spontaneity and energy was incredibly high. Now I know people will line up to criticise this point of view, but there is a serious question here about the expenditure of effort involved in the choice of the musical means. Birtwistle realises aesthetic goals more thoroughly and effectively than Threadgill. His work takes advantage of existing musical machinery (trained musicians, venues etc). Since it is written it is not only preserved and available for study and analysis, but it also goes beyond its occasion and establishes performance tradition. Only 'jazz fans' will turn to HT's music, and in their minds they will hear an expert soloist with a 'band'. I wonder if the effort will be in proportion to the outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 I enjoy Birtwistle and I enjoy Threadgill. I would highly doubt Threadgill's ultimate structural concern mirrors Birtwistle's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 *Sigh* I suppose I take some of the hype around 'serious' jazz too seriously. If I just accept the simple version on offer - that this is jazz which emphasises slightly unusual intervals - then there's nothing to say. Except to wonder why it took eight years to develop. And then remind myself that probably I shouldn't take that claim too seriously either. In truth, HT himself plays pretty much as he always did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikefok Posted September 25, 2010 Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 I wish I could really be there to see Threadgill in person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted September 26, 2010 Report Share Posted September 26, 2010 The Pi website shows This Brings Us To, volume 2, as available for order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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