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[JSngry]

Thanks, Niko!

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Thanks, Niko!

Looks like you grabbed it, Jim. Well done. Let us know what it's like idc, won't you?

MG

[Niko]

Thanks, Niko!

Looks like you grabbed it, Jim. Well done. Let us know what it's like idc, won't you?

MG

can't play it at work, so no idea whether it's longer than 10 seconds, but this shop here has a sound sample
http://www.jetsetrec...ct/162517228001

Edited by Niko, 08 April 2008 - 05:36 AM.

[Shawn]

When you combine those bonus tracks from Memphis & Accent onto a single disc, prepare to normalize them. I combined those once and those 2 CDs were mastered at very different levels.

[Holy Ghost]

Concerning AOTB's, this was a cd I picked up as a second thought in a used shop a few years ago. At first, I thought that it was not all that well-rehearsed and I wasn't digging Cabell (or Coleman for that matter) a whole lot especially on Rakin' and Scrapin'. It took some warming up to, but after several concentrated listens I now rank it as one of my favorite 'second phase' Patton Blue Note's. I really love those three tracks starting with Captain Nasty and ending with ite Hit and its here that my respect for Cabell's writing shot up. My appreciation for his playing came soon after that.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

When you combine those bonus tracks from Memphis & Accent onto a single disc, prepare to normalize them. I combined those once and those 2 CDs were mastered at very different levels.

Damn! Thats something I've been meaning to do for ages.

What does "normalise" mean in this context? I only know it in the context of relational database design.

MG

[JSngry]

Thanks, Niko!

Looks like you grabbed it, Jim. Well done. Let us know what it's like idc, won't you?

MG

Pretty groovy, that's what it's like!

Quite "typical" of it's time, electronic keyboards (and some baaaaaaad men playing them), no straight-4 swing (one thing in 5/4 though), some originals that fall right in line with his writing on AOTB, only with "contemporary" touches (quiet as it's kept, a lot of the "crossover" material of this time was pretty much like this - set the groove back 10 years or so, keep everything else the same, and nobody would know any difference...), covers of "Spain" & "Bright Moments", O'Donnell Levy, Hugh Walker (on one side), nothing at all out of place in a "popular inner city jazz club" of the late-70s, and best of all Marvin Cabell still sounds exactly like Marvin Cabell. A little more sure-fingered, but that tone & that timing & that inflectional quirkiness are still 1000% intact.

Probably not worth what I paid for it (the BASTARDS got my #...), but then again, I've always really dug Marvin Cabell, just because, so for me, it was, barely. But it's a great $10-$15 record for anybody else, except for those who won't dig all the "contemporary" touches and/or Marvin Cabell in general.

Edited by JSngry, 18 April 2008 - 03:56 PM.

[WorldB3]

My favorite stuff though is from the session that's split between bonus tracks on the CD of Accent and Memphis to NY....the tracks without guitar (Cissy Strut, Dragon Slayer, ect.). THAT session is definately one of the greatest in organ history imho.

Yes indeed!


MG

Third, that version of Cissy Strut is killer.

[Soul Stream]

Thanks for the review Jim! Cabell is great...I'm in full alignment ...

[Shawn]

What does "normalise" mean in this context?...

It's digital signal processing that searches an audio file, finds the highest peak and then raises it to "0". By using the peak value search it doesn't effect the dynamics of the original track, it just makes the track as loud as possible without clipping. Most recordings these days are mastered using digital limiting which compresses everything and removes the dynamic range.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

What does "normalise" mean in this context?...

It's digital signal processing that searches an audio file, finds the highest peak and then raises it to "0". By using the peak value search it doesn't effect the dynamics of the original track, it just makes the track as loud as possible without clipping. Most recordings these days are mastered using digital limiting which compresses everything and removes the dynamic range.

Thanks Shawn. I can't do that on my machine, but I can set the record level to take account of how loud different things are. Sounds like the same thing, only a manual job (mops sweating brow).

MG

[Soul Stream]

I TALKED WITH MARVIN CABELL TODAY!!!!

Man, just got off the phone with Mr. Lite Hit himself!!! A super nice and humble man to be sure. Going to be talking again with him in the next few days for an interview I'm going to post on Patton's MySpace site. If there's any questions you'd like to ask him, let me know and I'll try and remember....!

[chewy]

so BJP only recorded other peoples songs on that lp beacuse he was pissed at Lion and didnt want to give him publishing credits? or is that how the story goes?

[Soul Stream]

so BJP only recorded other peoples songs on that lp beacuse he was pissed at Lion and didnt want to give him publishing credits? or is that how the story goes?

That's the story.... Not sure how close to the truth it is...maybe it's the whole truth. That was the story Javier gave in the Patton biography. I'll ask Marvin how it came to be he wrote so many tunes on that and the follow up sessions. My guess is that Patton just dug the way he wrote. Much like his collaboration with Grachan Moncur III. John always was a big fan of the way certain people wrote.

[bertrand]

Is there a way to get a copy of Javier's thesis without going to Rutgers and spending 3 hours xeroxing it? It's not like there will ever be another book on BJP.

Bertrand.

[Soul Stream]

Is there a way to get a copy of Javier's thesis without going to Rutgers and spending 3 hours xeroxing it? It's not like there will ever be another book on BJP.

Bertrand.

I've posted the full thesis in the blog section of my John Patton myspace site... www.myspace.com/bigjohnpatton

[andybleaden]

Is there a way to get a copy of Javier's thesis without going to Rutgers and spending 3 hours xeroxing it? It's not like there will ever be another book on BJP.

Bertrand.

You want me to send you over a copy (on word?)

[Rooster_Ties]

Is there a way to get a copy of Javier's thesis without going to Rutgers and spending 3 hours xeroxing it? It's not like there will ever be another book on BJP.

Bertrand.

You want me to send you over a copy (on word?)

I'll take one, if you please. Tried to cut-n-paste the thing into Word last night, and had a devil of a time with the formatting.

My e-mail is...

buck_crim {at} msn {dot} c o m

Thanks!!!

[andybleaden]

let me know if you do not get it

[Parkertown]

Much like his collaboration with Grachan Moncur III.

What session/album is this?

[Soul Stream]

Much like his collaboration with Grachan Moncur III.

What session/album is this?

Soul Connection. It's an album he made in the 80's on the Nilva label. It's just been reissued on CD.

[andybleaden]

and it is bloody fab and about time too!

Really worth hunting down a copy in my humble opinion

[Parkertown]

Thanks gents. D'oh! I already downloaded that one but don't think I've spun it yet...

[JSngry]

I TALKED WITH MARVIN CABELL TODAY!!!!

Man, just got off the phone with Mr. Lite Hit himself!!! A super nice and humble man to be sure. Going to be talking again with him in the next few days for an interview I'm going to post on Patton's MySpace site. If there's any questions you'd like to ask him, let me know and I'll try and remember....!

Please convey my warmest regards and highest fondness to Mr. Cabell!

What's he up to these days?

[Holy Ghost]

Yeah, totally! Is he (has) recording anything as of late? Club dates? Man, I don't even know what he looks like! Pics?

Nice avatar SS. AOTB was an album that took time to grow on me (a last minute decision buy for $6!!!) and now it ranks as one my favorite BJP.

[Soul Stream]

Hey everybody.... I'm going to talk to Marvin again soon. I've been writing down questions I want to ask, and now am just waiting for a good time for me to call. I'll let you know what he has to say, and I'll tell him how much support he has on the board!

[chewy]

so when i do it, its mocked, but when jsngry does it, is praised- oh well, well ask him how he met big john, and what big john told him about what he wanted from the music, and if they played any live shows, and what it was like making music with big john, and his whole expierence dealing with the great BJP

[JSngry]

Dude, it ain't me who's doing it.

And fwiw, I dug you calling Lou like that.

[Soul Stream]

so when i do it, its mocked, but when jsngry does it, is praised- oh well, well ask him how he met big john, and what big john told him about what he wanted from the music, and if they played any live shows, and what it was like making music with big john, and his whole expierence dealing with the great BJP

I'll ask him those things. I do know he, John and LeRoy Williams were together as a band for something like 5 or 6 years more or less. So they did travel and play live shows constantly. I did ask Marvin if he had any live recordings of that band, and he regretted to say he didn't.

[chewy]

oh yea, i meant soul stream, sorry Jsngry. although im sure you called some crazy jazz musican in your day too!