king ubu Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 ...and if you're looking for a more introspective, intuitive sound to your trumpet, then there's Markus Stockhausen. A great musician! Saw him twice, first in a "classical" concert (playing C-trumpet), then later with Dhafer Yousef - fantastic concert (with Dieter Ilg on bass and the great Jojo Mayer on drums). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Herb Robertson, for sure -- though the one time I heard him live was a good deal more impressive than most of the Robertson recordings I've heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Someone to keep a watch out for is youngish (age 33) Chicago cornetist Josh Berman. [...] Josh, who is now very much his own man, originally was an unlikely blend of Don Cherry, Tony Fruscella, and Ruby Braff, if you can believe that! this description made me so curious that I searched and found this site http://lucky7s.org/music.php which has a number of mp3s featuring Berman for legal and free download (still downloading the first one) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Hugh Ragin. Wonderful. Check out his recordings on Justin Time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Larry, I don't know Robertson as a leader, just from several sidemen albums, live recordings, and one concert (Barry Guy's New Orchestra) - a rather impressive technician, but as far as I am aware of his playing, sort of a role-cast player, too (high, strong, loud...) Some others: Jean-Luc Cappozzo (with Louis Sclavis' great quintet - 2002 ECM album "L'affrontement des pretendants") Stéphane Belmondo (he and his sax-playing brother Lionel did a terrific album with Yusef Lateef, "Influence", released on their own label this year - check it out!) Massimo Greco (with Gianluigi Trovesi Ottetto) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 1960 Posted August 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Thanks for all the great input guys. The reason I mentioned Hargrove in my initial post is that I'm already familar with some of his recordings and consider myself a fan. I don't own the recent recording(Nothing Else), but will keep KH1958's suggestion in mind since I've already heard some good things about this one. I've run across a couple of Dave Douglas albums recently in a local B&N. That might be worth further exploration. Some of the other names mentioned I'm not familar with. I'll keep a list of the many fine suggestions and report back at some point in the future. Cash is alittle tight at the moment but it doesn't cost anything to complile a list for future purchases. Thanks again fellas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonF Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Way late on this thread, Tom. You should check out Maurice Brown - New Orleans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Larry, I don't know Robertson as a leader, just from several sidemen albums, live recordings, and one concert (Barry Guy's New Orchestra) - a rather impressive technician, but as far as I am aware of his playing, sort of a role-cast player, too (high, strong, loud...) I have three Robertson CDs that I like: "The Legend of the Missing Link" (Splasch), with good Italian players (septet and quintet); "Elaboration" (Clean Feed), with Tim Berne et al.; and "Shades of Bud Powell" (JMT), from 1988, with a brass ensemble and Joey Baron. All of these, though, good as they are, take up a lot of space with writing and/or collective improvising and don't really expose Robertson as a player that much as I recall. But when I heard him live in NYC in 2002 -- with a group led by Mark Helias that included Mark Shim (whatever happened to him? -- a really promising player), Craig Taborn, and Eric McPherson -- Robertson got a lot of solo space and was on fire. The thing he does in particular that knocks me out is use a plunger at up tempos to alter the timbre of individual notes in already multi-noted passages, which creates the impression that one is hearing maybe three times more notes per bar than would be possible -- this being done not with any air of trickery but because Robertson can actually think at that speed. It was wild, ecstatic stuff, a bit like early Dizzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJazz Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Have to put my vote in for Brian Lynch. He really doesn't get the recognition he deserves, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 There's also Eddie Henderson--see his appearances under the leadership of Billy Harper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relyles Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Herb Robertson can be heard with Gerry Hemingway's quartet along with Ellery Eskelin and Mark Helias. I have heard a couple of live radio broadcasts and there is also a recording on Clean Feads that has been on my want list for a while. Another trumpeter to consider that has not been mentioned is Tim Hagans. His recent recording, Beautiful Lily has some interesting moments and his earlier recording on Blue Note, Audible Architecture is very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Sean Jones has some excellent potential IMHO. Another trumpeter to consider that has not been mentioned is Tim Hagans. His recent recording, Beautiful Lily has some interesting moments and his earlier recording on Blue Note, Audible Architecture is very good. Oh yeah, how can we not mention Hagans? Good call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relyles Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Just remembered two other trumpet favorites. Anders Bergcrantz, C is excellent as is Magnus Broo's Sudden Joy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relyles Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Way late on this thread, Tom. You should check out Maurice Brown - New Orleans. Isn't Maurice Brown actually a relocated Chicago native? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relyles Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 And please don't ignore Wallace Roney. One of the best of his generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relyles Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Names just keep coming to me as I sit here. Paul Smoker - Genuine Fables Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relyles Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 John McNeil - East Coast Cool Baikida Carroll - Marionettes On A High Wire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed S Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Jeez - I have a lot of catching up to do - have not heard half these guys. Personally, I'm a pretty big Erik Truffaz fan. Love Blanchard too. His first Blue Note album was great, IMO. Did not pick up the second as I was waitng for yourmusic - but they never picked it up. Saw Ingrid Jensen last year at the Montreal Jazz Festival and she was very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonF Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Isn't Maurice Brown actually a relocated Chicago native? Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relyles Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 (edited) Isn't Maurice Brown actually a relocated Chicago native? Yep. I heard him with Ernest Dawkins earlier in the year. He has potential. Edited August 22, 2006 by relyles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Here are a quick few that come to mind (they're all so pensive......) How about arranging them so they're looking at each other, trying to mess with each other's heads? "You think you're bad?" "Badder than your sad ass." "I'm badder than all of you suckers!" "I'm so bad I don't even have to say how bad I am." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Here are a quick few that come to mind (they're all so pensive......) How about arranging them so they're looking at each other, trying to mess with each other's heads? "You think you're bad?" "Badder than your sad ass." "I'm badder than all of you suckers!" "I'm so bad I don't even have to say how bad I am." MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bary01 Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 play this video , the Trumpet player is great ( !! he's the co-banleader and composer of the piece !!) Paris Jazz Big Band Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Larry, I don't know Robertson as a leader, just from several sidemen albums, live recordings, and one concert (Barry Guy's New Orchestra) - a rather impressive technician, but as far as I am aware of his playing, sort of a role-cast player, too (high, strong, loud...) I have three Robertson CDs that I like: "The Legend of the Missing Link" (Splasch), with good Italian players (septet and quintet); "Elaboration" (Clean Feed), with Tim Berne et al.; and "Shades of Bud Powell" (JMT), from 1988, with a brass ensemble and Joey Baron. All of these, though, good as they are, take up a lot of space with writing and/or collective improvising and don't really expose Robertson as a player that much as I recall. But when I heard him live in NYC in 2002 -- with a group led by Mark Helias that included Mark Shim (whatever happened to him? -- a really promising player), Craig Taborn, and Eric McPherson -- Robertson got a lot of solo space and was on fire. The thing he does in particular that knocks me out is use a plunger at up tempos to alter the timbre of individual notes in already multi-noted passages, which creates the impression that one is hearing maybe three times more notes per bar than would be possible -- this being done not with any air of trickery but because Robertson can actually think at that speed. It was wild, ecstatic stuff, a bit like early Dizzy. Sounds like I ought to check him out a bit better, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Randy Sandke - can play anything, writes beautifully - can evoke Box without mimicry - a great thinking musician, with lots of feeling - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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