Rooster_Ties Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 (edited) From the liner notes to the Andrew Hill Mosaic big box (about the last date, with Sam Rivers)... March 7th, 1966 This is another session that did not see the light of day until it was issued in the Blue Note Reissue Series of tan double albums in 1975. Since we had only one unissued Sam Rivers LP in the Blue Note vaults, we put this Hill session featuring Sam with it rather than reissue other Rivers dates. Alfred like it a great deal at the time and was thinking about calling it CHANGE. It was even given the catalog number 84233 AND PREPARED FOR RELEASE Was there a cover prepared as well?? We all know there are a handful of dates that had real, legit Reid Miles covers -- dates which weren't released at the time. I'm thinking of the following (and please add any others I've missed). (Not 100% sure the Leo Parker cover is a Ried Miles, but I think it is. And in case any of those hot-linked pics fail, I've got the covers for "Blue John", "Dimensions and Extensions", and "Rollin' with Leo" displayed.) Anyway, could there be a Ried Miles cover for the Andrew Hill date with Sam Rivers????? What other dates (that haven't ever been issued as individual CD's yet), could possibly have Ried Miles covers in the vaults -- if they were "prepared for release" -- back in the day??? (And what other "issued long after the fact" Ried Miles covers have we gotten in the last 35 years??) Edited August 23, 2006 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 We all know there are a handful of dates that had real, legit Reid Miles covers -- dates which weren't released at the time. I'm thinking of the following (and please add any others I've missed). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted August 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 (edited) Ah yes, HERE TO STAY -- forgot about that one. And I didn't realize that Tina Brooks cover fit this catagory -- thanks!! Edit: Might be handy to have this link handy, as this thread develops... That Japanese site with all the Blue Note covers. Edited August 23, 2006 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Donaldson Lush Life Turrentine Comin' Your Way Parlan Happy Frame of Mind and the Parker IS a Miles cover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted August 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Donaldson Lush Life Turrentine Comin' Your Way Parlan Happy Frame of Mind and the Parker IS a Miles cover Thanks Chuck!! Can't believe I forgot those three (well, the Turrentine and Parlan anyway). Lush Life has never been on my radar, for some reason. Here's the covers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Wait a sec - are we saying that for each of these albums - shelved for one reason or another - these are original Reid Miles covers that were produced at the time? I thought Happy Frame of Mind was supposed to be a Booker Ervin release ... and then it got split off from one of the brown LP cover twofers of the 70s. This was the original Reid cover, with Parlan as leader? I'm really confused on some of these ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted August 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 (edited) Wait a sec - are we saying that for each of these albums - shelved for one reason or another - these are original Reid Miles covers that were produced at the time?? Yup. That's my understanding. (I'll let others here smarter than me about these things comment on your other questions.) But as far as I know, these (above) are all honest to goodness REAL Reid Miles covers that never saw the light of day until years later. Cool. Edited August 23, 2006 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Wait a sec - are we saying that for each of these albums - shelved for one reason or another - these are original Reid Miles covers that were produced at the time? I thought Happy Frame of Mind was supposed to be a Booker Ervin release ... and then it got split off from one of the brown LP cover twofers of the 70s. This was the original Reid cover, with Parlan as leader? I'm really confused on some of these ... Yes to your first question. Michael found the printing films (negatives) for those covers. The Parlan was coupled with an unissued Ervin in the '70s but it was indeed a Parlan date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 If I remember correctly, Back To The Tracks went as far as getting test pressings. I wonder if any of those survived. Bet they would fetch a fortune on ebay! Bertrand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 I thought Happy Frame of Mind was supposed to be a Booker Ervin release ... and then it got split off from one of the brown LP cover twofers of the 70s. This was the original Reid cover, with Parlan as leader? It was included in Booker's Back From The Gig 2-fer, but listed as a Parlan session therein. They included it because Booker was featured, and because they only had one unreleased Ervin session. The object of that series quickly turned from straight reissues to getting as much unreleased stuff out as quickly as they could, by any means necessary. Gotta love'em for that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 And - I can see Lush Life being Miles' basic layout, but the coloring, tinting, etc? I'm skeptical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted August 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 And - I can see Lush Life being Miles' basic layout, but the coloring, tinting, etc? I'm skeptical. I hear ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 And - I can see Lush Life being Miles' basic layout, but the coloring, tinting, etc? I'm skeptical. I hear ya. Yeah, but they still had shots of those puuurrrttttyyy models to use. Actually, I was under the impression that Lush Life had been issued originally at the time. Was that actually a "rainbow" LP the first time it came out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 And - I can see Lush Life being Miles' basic layout, but the coloring, tinting, etc? I'm skeptical. I hear ya. Yeah, but they still had shots of those puuurrrttttyyy models to use. Actually, I was under the impression that Lush Life had been issued originally at the time. Was that actually a "rainbow" LP the first time it came out? First issue was a King pressing in Japan. It had a terrible generic cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter A Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 Wait a sec - are we saying that for each of these albums - shelved for one reason or another - these are original Reid Miles covers that were produced at the time? I thought Happy Frame of Mind was supposed to be a Booker Ervin release ... and then it got split off from one of the brown LP cover twofers of the 70s. This was the original Reid cover, with Parlan as leader? Actually a couple of weeks ago a test pressing of "A Happy Frame Of Mind" - no cover, white labels with 'Plastylite' stamp, the name, title and original number (BST-84134) written on it - was sold on eBay. Unfortunately I was on holiday at the time so I was not able to bid on it. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 If I remember correctly, Back To The Tracks went as far as getting test pressings. I wonder if any of those survived. Bet they would fetch a fortune on ebay! Bertrand. It even got as far as the cover art for 'Back To The Tracks' appearing on W61st inner sleeves, I believe. I'll check later but I'm sure I've seen this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 And - I can see Lush Life being Miles' basic layout, but the coloring, tinting, etc? I'm skeptical. I hear ya. Yeah, but they still had shots of those puuurrrttttyyy models to use. Actually, I was under the impression that Lush Life had been issued originally at the time. Was that actually a "rainbow" LP the first time it came out? First issue was a King pressing in Japan. It had a terrible generic cover. I quite like the King cover of that one. Wasn't the first issue actually the 'Applause' budget issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted August 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 (edited) If I remember correctly, Back To The Tracks went as far as getting test pressings. I wonder if any of those survived. Bet they would fetch a fortune on ebay! Bertrand. It even got as far as the cover art for 'Back To The Tracks' appearing on W61st inner sleeves, I believe. I'll check later but I'm sure I've seen this one. Pretty sure the cover art for "Blue John" also appeared on an inner sleeve or two - back in the day. (I remember the linernotes mentioning this - although I'm away from my copy at the moment, otherwise I'd check personally.) Edited August 23, 2006 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 If I remember correctly, Back To The Tracks went as far as getting test pressings. I wonder if any of those survived. Bet they would fetch a fortune on ebay! Bertrand. It even got as far as the cover art for 'Back To The Tracks' appearing on W61st inner sleeves, I believe. I'll check later but I'm sure I've seen this one. Pretty sure the cover art for "Blue John" also appeared on an inner sleeve or two - back in the day. (I remember the linernotes mentioning this - although I'm away from my copy at the moment, otherwise I'd check personally.) Yes, I'm pretty damn sure I've seen that one too on some of those pre-'66 vintage inner sleeves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter A Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 If I remember correctly, Back To The Tracks went as far as getting test pressings. I wonder if any of those survived. Bet they would fetch a fortune on ebay! Bertrand. It even got as far as the cover art for 'Back To The Tracks' appearing on W61st inner sleeves, I believe. I'll check later but I'm sure I've seen this one. Pretty sure the cover art for "Blue John" also appeared on an inner sleeve or two - back in the day. (I remember the linernotes mentioning this - although I'm away from my copy at the moment, otherwise I'd check personally.) If I remember well the covers for Rollin' with Leo and Coming Your Way were also printed on one of these inner sleeves. I will check it when I'm home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 And - I can see Lush Life being Miles' basic layout, but the coloring, tinting, etc? I'm skeptical. I hear ya. Yeah, but they still had shots of those puuurrrttttyyy models to use. Actually, I was under the impression that Lush Life had been issued originally at the time. Was that actually a "rainbow" LP the first time it came out? First issue was a King pressing in Japan. It had a terrible generic cover. I quite like the King cover of that one. Wasn't the first issue actually the 'Applause' budget issue? The Japanese issue was titled "Sweet Slumber", and had a nice cover. I've already erased the cover of the Applause issue from my memory... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 That Japanese 'Sweet Slumber' cover was uncredited. Don't think Reid Miles had anything to do with the design! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 That Japanese 'Sweet Slumber' cover was uncredited. Don't think Reid Miles had anything to do with the design! Not K. Abe? (who did quite a few of this series I think) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 That Japanese 'Sweet Slumber' cover was uncredited. Don't think Reid Miles had anything to do with the design! I wasn't suggesting that he did. I was basically responding to Chuck's comment (and I'll add that there could very well be another Japanese cover that I'm unaware of...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted August 23, 2006 Report Share Posted August 23, 2006 That Japanese 'Sweet Slumber' cover was uncredited. Don't think Reid Miles had anything to do with the design! I wasn't suggesting that he did. I was basically responding to Chuck's comment (and I'll add that there could very well be another Japanese cover that I'm unaware of...). That's the one I think sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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