paul secor Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 10 favorite Black Saint records from the 70s (since I didn't list any Black Saints in my 70s favorites list - tho I could have): Muhal Richard Abrams/Malachi Favors: Sightsong Andrew Cyrille/Jeanne Lee/Jimmy Lyons: Nuba Julius Hemphill: Raw Materials and Residuals Leroy Jenkins: The Legend of Ai Glatson Steve Lacy/Roswell Rudd/Kent Carter/Beaver Harris: Trickles George Lewis: Homage to Charlie Parker Marcello Melis: New Village on the Left Kalaparusha Maurice McIntyre: Peace and Blessings Old and New Dreams Max Roach/Anthony Braxton: Birth and Rebirth This stuff is getting to be fun, even if I am starting to feel like a Nick Hornby character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Ptah Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Interesting to see how far from most people's taste mine is; of all the albums posted in this thread so far, I've only actually got 15 (though a few have been mentioned more than once). MG MG, I have certainly learned a lot from your posts about soul jazz, and have picked up some great albums based on your recommendations--maybe we can all return the favor here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Ptah Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 This stuff is getting to be fun, even if I am starting to feel like a Nick Hornby character. But Nick seems to have no knowledge of jazz--or no interest in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 (edited) My collection is pretty small, but here are my ten favorite jazz albums recorded in the 70s: Miles Davis, It's About That Time: Live at the Fillmore East Weather Report, Live in Tokyo Mahavishnu Orchestra, The Inner Mounting Flame Herbie Hancock, Sextant Paul Motian, Tribute Dave Holland, Conference of the Birds Chick Corea, Return to Forever Abercrombie/Holland/DeJohnette, Gateway Keith Jarrett, Fort Yawuh Joe Henderson, In Japan Edited September 27, 2006 by Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Interesting to see how far from most people's taste mine is; of all the albums posted in this thread so far, I've only actually got 15 (though a few have been mentioned more than once). MG MG, I have certainly learned a lot from your posts about soul jazz, and have picked up some great albums based on your recommendations--maybe we can all return the favor here. Already doing it Bought lots more Bebop & Hard Bop this year than usual. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIS Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 To GA Russell, Your listing of the two If albums in the first post really brought back some memories. I played the living crap out of these two LPs in college. I still have them but unfortunately they sound like they have been rode hard and put up wet as well. For my taste this was the best of the so called "jazz-rock" music and maybe had some influence on my looking into jazz itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted September 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 NIS, I saw If on two consecutive nights in suburban Washington, DC, in the fall of '70. I had the plasure of interviewing Dick Morrisey for my college radio station. They put on a great show both times, in terms of music. I was really impressed by John Mealing on the organ after that. He later played on Passport's second album, and really made it IMO. Actually, I was only nominating If's second album, which was called If Squared, except that I don't know how to raise the 2 on this computer. I thought that their first album was their best, but it was recorded in 1969 I think. Some years later, maybe 1977, I spent the night in a motel in Toronto, and heard over the cable TV (on the weather page) the song What Did I Say About the Box, Jack?!!! Talk about an obscure song! I figured I was probably the only guy in Toronto who recognized the song as it was playing. My favorite jazz-rock band at that time was Manfred Mann Chapter III, but If was my second favorite. I probably should have put Manfred Mann Chapter III Volume Two on my list. I don't believe that all four of If's albums have been released on CD, but I think that the first two have, as well as a Best of compilation. I think all of the CDs were British, none US. Although jazz was starting to get sort of tired at that point, it was a magical time for a few musicians who were experimenting with adding a rock beat to jazz music. Morrisey later led two rock bands called If, but it wasn't the same. I read on AAJ that he passed away in 2002. Nice guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIS Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 NIS, I saw If on two consecutive nights in suburban Washington, DC, in the fall of '70. I had the plasure of interviewing Dick Morrisey for my college radio station. They put on a great show both times, in terms of music. I was really impressed by John Mealing on the organ after that. He later played on Passport's second album, and really made it IMO. Actually, I was only nominating If's second album, which was called If Squared, except that I don't know how to raise the 2 on this computer. I thought that their first album was their best, but it was recorded in 1969 I think. Some years later, maybe 1977, I spent the night in a motel in Toronto, and heard over the cable TV (on the weather page) the song What Did I Say About the Box, Jack?!!! Talk about an obscure song! I figured I was probably the only guy in Toronto who recognized the song as it was playing. My favorite jazz-rock band at that time was Manfred Mann Chapter III, but If was my second favorite. I probably should have put Manfred Mann Chapter III Volume Two on my list. I don't believe that all four of If's albums have been released on CD, but I think that the first two have, as well as a Best of compilation. I think all of the CDs were British, none US. Although jazz was starting to get sort of tired at that point, it was a magical time for a few musicians who were experimenting with adding a rock beat to jazz music. Morrisey later led two rock bands called If, but it wasn't the same. I read on AAJ that he passed away in 2002. Nice guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIS Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 NIS, I saw If on two consecutive nights in suburban Washington, DC, in the fall of '70. I had the plasure of interviewing Dick Morrisey for my college radio station. They put on a great show both times, in terms of music. I was really impressed by John Mealing on the organ after that. He later played on Passport's second album, and really made it IMO. Actually, I was only nominating If's second album, which was called If Squared, except that I don't know how to raise the 2 on this computer. I thought that their first album was their best, but it was recorded in 1969 I think. Some years later, maybe 1977, I spent the night in a motel in Toronto, and heard over the cable TV (on the weather page) the song What Did I Say About the Box, Jack?!!! Talk about an obscure song! I figured I was probably the only guy in Toronto who recognized the song as it was playing. My favorite jazz-rock band at that time was Manfred Mann Chapter III, but If was my second favorite. I probably should have put Manfred Mann Chapter III Volume Two on my list. I don't believe that all four of If's albums have been released on CD, but I think that the first two have, as well as a Best of compilation. I think all of the CDs were British, none US. Although jazz was starting to get sort of tired at that point, it was a magical time for a few musicians who were experimenting with adding a rock beat to jazz music. Morrisey later led two rock bands called If, but it wasn't the same. I read on AAJ that he passed away in 2002. Nice guy. GA, Sorry for the double post and thanks for the background info. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ep1str0phy Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Steve Lacy/Roswell Rudd/Kent Carter/Beaver Harris: Trickles I don't know why more people don't love this album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIS Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 This topic has been fun for me because the 70s was when I started buying music from the jazz section. The albums that I am listing are ones that I still listen to quite often. AEC, Fanfare For The Warriors Ralph Towner, Solstice Bennie Maupin, The Jewel In The Lotus Weather Report, Mysterious Traveller MJQ, The Last Concert Walt Dickerson, Peace Bobby Naughton, The Haunt John Abercrombie/Dave Holland/Jack DeJohnette, Gateway Collin Walcott, Grazing Dreams Walt Dickerson, Tenderness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Ptah Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 This topic is also fun for me because I started buying jazz then too. I am struck by the many excellent albums that came out in that decade, especially toward the end of the decade. The media and certain jazz artists sometimes refer to the 1970s as a bleak period for jazz, a down time, etc.--but there was actually more exciting music being released than in the 1980s, 1990s or 2000s, in my humble opinion. The 1970s music did not have the benefit of high priced, high powered PR spin behind it, though. The lists on this thread seem to me to underrepresent the swing and mainstream bop releases of that decade, and the most popular fusion releases as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted October 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 I don't believe that all four of If's albums have been released on CD, but I think that the first two have, as well as a Best of compilation. I should have looked them up before I said anything. Yesterday I was at CD Universe and did look them up, and I saw that all four are available on CD, as well as the album by the first subsequent If group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Kat Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Pat Martino Consciousness. Pretty much all of Martino's 70 albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jazz Kat Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Return to Forever: Light As A Feather Return to Forever: Hym of the Seventh Galaxy Pat Metheny: Bright Size Life Stanley Turrentine: Sugar George Benson: Bad Benson Chuck Mangione Quartet: Alive Modern Jazz Quartet: Last Concert There's much more, I just can't think of any right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Return to Forever: Light As A Feather Return to Forever: Hym of the Seventh Galaxy Pat Metheny: Bright Size Life Stanley Turrentine: Sugar George Benson: Bad Benson Chuck Mangione Quartet: Alive Modern Jazz Quartet: Last Concert There's much more, I just can't think of any right now. Don't own any of 'em. Not a value judgment, just a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connoisseur series500 Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Return to Forever: Light As A Feather Return to Forever: Hym of the Seventh Galaxy Pat Metheny: Bright Size Life Stanley Turrentine: Sugar George Benson: Bad Benson Chuck Mangione Quartet: Alive Modern Jazz Quartet: Last Concert There's much more, I just can't think of any right now. Don't own any of 'em. Not a value judgment, just a fact. I remember the first time I met Chuck, we discussed a lot of stuff about jazz. I think I mentioned something about the so-called decline of jazz in the 70s. Chuck vigorously denied that any such decline took place. I don't recall his exact words, but it had something to do with how jazz was marketed at the time. I think I was making the point that rock and roll had taken over a lot of the popularity of jazz, but I've always loved 70s jazz and subsequently from the talk with Chuck have discovered even many more great titles. Damn, I hate to admit it: Chuck was right!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Damn, I hate to admit it: Chuck was right!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Kat Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 What about the eighties though...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest akanalog Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 can we keep the eighties in another thread. peoples responses here are interesting. no reason to kill the thread by having it veer in another direction. sorry if i sound weird for saying that but i am enjoying this thread a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 (edited) can we keep the eighties in another thread. Right you are. '80s post deleted. Tough to pick just 10, as I'm leaving off Woody Shaw & Charles Tolliver to name a couple, but here's today's list semi-chronologically. Art Ensemble of Chicago - People of Sorrow Miles Davis - Jack Johnson, Get Up With It Herbie Hancock - Mwandishi Thelonious Monk - London Collection 1 (the solo one) Dave Holland - Conference of Birds Shakti w/ John McLaughlin Warne Marsh - All Music Air - Air Time Fred Anderson - The Missing Link Shakti was a "gateway drug" so it has to be included! The Missing Link probably has been played more in the past 2 years than any of the above, but I've had the Herbie Warner stuff stay in the player for days too. And the Monk is a great one. A great decade. Edited October 17, 2006 by Quincy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 There was SO much going on musically in the '70s, it's very hard to pick ten. Nessa, India Navigation, FMP, Incus, ECM/Japo, ALM, Trio, Saravah, Virgin, Freedom and Black Saint were just a few of the labels documenting great music from the period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandrill Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 In no particular order: Jan Garbarek- Afric Pepperbird Paul Bley- Open To Love Keith Jarrett- Bremen/Lousanne Solo Concerts Vinny Golia- Spirits in Fellowship Abdullah Ibrahim- Children Of Africa Billy Harper- Black Saint Charles Tyler- Voyage From Jericho Dave Holland- Conference Of The Birds Ganelin Trio- Catalogue (though most of their output is 80's legacy). John Klemmer- Nexus (knowing Klemmer's kinda lame reputation of late this one is gotta be heard to be believed, but it's a killer). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Clugston Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Ones that come to mind: Anthony Braxton/The Berlin/Montreux Concerts (and pretty much any of the other quartet-dominated albums) Woody Shaw Concert Ensemble/Live at the Berliner Jazztage Woody Shaw/The Song of Songs Miles Davis/Pangaea Sam Rivers/Trio Live Perugia Herbie Hancock/Mwandishi Ganelin/Tarasov/Chekasin/Catalogue: Live in East Berlin Chris McGregor's Brotherhood of Breath Willem Breuker/Live in Berlin Honourable mentions: Clifford Thornton/The Panther and the Lash Roscoe Mitchell/Duets with Anthony Braxton Dave Holland/The Conference of the Birds Stuff recorded in the 1970s, but released later: Anthony Braxton/Creative Orchestra (Koln) 1978 Brotherhood of Breath/Bremen to Bridgewater Miles Davis/Complete Live-Evil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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