The Complete Louis Armstrong

[king ubu]

Nice!

Some more info here:

http://www.fremeaux.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&category_id=64&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=1619&option=com_virtuemart

[johnblitweiler]

Hi everyone, first time poster here (thanks, Jim!)

Question about Louis and the King Oliver material. Has anyone ever compared the sound quality of the "Off The Record" versions versus the Integrale vol. 1 versions? I see in a post above that neither one is truly "complete", but they both get pretty close, and I've decided to embark on bullding a complete Louis Armstrong collection; it seems one of these two is the way to go. Might as well start at the beginning, eh? So yeah, Off The Record, Integrale vol. 1, or other? Really, sound quality is my number one concern, followed close second by "complete-ness". Opinions?

On Off the Record and the Frémeaux Integrale the Oliver sides are complete. For more information I see my post 68.

Except that I wish to heaven that unissued 1923 take of "Someday Sweetheart" had been discovered. Could it be the same arrangement that Oliver later recorded with the Plantation Orchestra, with Johnny Dodds added for that emotive clarinet solo?

[jcam_44]

Trying to decide which volume to pick up first in the range of Vol. 9-13. I have the complete hot 5 and & from Sony and a nice collection of stuff with the All-Stars. Looking for stuff with his Orchestra or other formations. Any suggestions?

Edited April 17, 2015 by jcam_44

[AllenLowe]

I don't know if this has been addressed, but how are the sources for the Decca era on these? Did they, hopefully, steal them from the right places?

[John L]

Trying to decide which volume to pick up first in the range of Vol. 9-13. I have the complete hot 5 and & from Sony and a nice collection of stuff with the All-Stars. Looking for stuff with his Orchestra or other formations. Any suggestions?

I would move toward the large orchestra material next, particularly as you already have a collection with the All Stars. Get all of the volumes from the 1930s, starting with the earlier ones.

Edited April 17, 2015 by John L

[l p]

there's a lot of issued 1943-45 radio material that they didn't bother to include on these integrale volumes.

[l p]

is volume 15 on the way yet?

[brownie]

Not yet. It's bond to come out soon...

[king ubu]

Funny this comes up ... just checked the interwebs for news a few days ago as well ... we need more 1948 (I actually wanted to check if the All Stars date on the new Earl Hines set from Storyville was out on Fremeaux - but their latest volume cuts off a few months too early).

[l p]

hopefully the next 2 volumes will mostly be taken up by 1948 and 1949 broadcasts from Ciro's and The Click in philadelphia. 

Edited April 12, 2016 by l p

[gmonahan]

Just curious since I don't have them, but did the Fremeaux sets include Satch's tracks recorded for the movie, "New Orleans"?

 

 

gregmo

[l p]

yes, it's on volume 12. i didn't even know this stuff existed, 

pre-recordings not covered by dialogue or sound-effects, and tunes not used in the final film.

http://www.librairie-audio.com/en/louis-armstrong/1396-integrale-louis-armstrong-vol-12-3561302136226.html

 

cd1

“NEW ORLEANS” (UA film) PRÉ-ENREGISTREMENTS / PRE-RECORDINGS
Louis ARMSTRONG (tp, voc)?; Edward “Kid” ORY (tb)?; A. Barney BIGARD (cl)?; Charlie BEAL (p)?; Arthur “Bud” SCOTT (g)?; George “Red” CALLENDER (b)?; Arthur “Zutty” SINGLETON(dm)?; plus George KENNEDY, Charles YUKL (tp)?; Ellis RONKA, Murray McEACHERN (tb)?; Robert HENNON, John HAMILTON (cl, ts)?; Phillip  MURROW (bars)?; George E. GREEN (tuba)?; John BOUDREAUX (dm).
 Hollywood (Studio & Artists Recorders), entre/between 5/09 & 8/10/1946
14. FLEE AS A BIRD (trad)/WHEN THE SAINTS GO MARCHIN’ IN (trad) (TMX 1-3 & 3A-5) 3’08

Septette comme pour 14 / Septet as for 14. Moins les 9 musiciens de studio / minus the 9 studio musicians. 
 Mêmes lieu & date / Same place & date
15. WEST END BLUES (J.Oliver) (TMX 7-3) 2’49
16. TIGER RAG (D.J.LaRocca) (TMX 33-3) 2’21
17. WHERE THE BLUES WERE BORN IN NEW ORLEANS (Capleton-Dixon) (TMX 42- ) 4’36
18. BUDDY BOLDEN BLUES (2 takes) (F.Morton) (TMX 53 G1-3&G1-4) 1’44
19. BASIN STREET BLUES (Sp.Williams) (TMX 53 S41/42) 4’42
20. RAYMOND STREET BLUES plus 4 HIGH NOTES ON TRUMPET 
(L.Armstrong) (TMX 53 G2-3) 1’24
21. MARYLAND, MY MARYLAND (trad) (TMX 81 ?) 2’59

Louis ARMSTRONG (tp) & prob. Arthur SCHUTT (p)
 Mêmes lieu & date / Same place & date  
22. BRAHMS’ LULLABY (J.Brahms) (TMX 30 B-2) 0’45

Septette comme pour 15 à 21 / Septet as for 15 to 21. Billie HOLIDAY & chœur/choir (voc)
 Mêmes lieu & date / Same place & date  
23. FAREWELL TO STORYVILLE (Good Time Flat Blues) 
(C.Williams) (TMX 84) 3’13

 

cd2

“NEW ORLEANS” (UA film) PRÉ-ENREGISTREMENTS / PRE-RECORDINGS
Louis ARMSTRONG (tp, voc)?; “Kid” ORY (tb)?; A. Barney BIGARD (cl)?; Charlie BEAL(P)?; A. “Bud” SCOTT (g)?; George “Red” CALLENDER (b)?; A. “Zutty” SINGLETON (dm). Hollywood (Studio & Artists  Recorders), entre/between 5/09 & 8/10/1946
1. MILENBERG JOYS (P.Mares-L.Roppolo-F.Morton) 
 (TMX 62-4) 1’54

Septette comme pour 1 / Septet as for 1. Plus Thomas “Mutt” CAREY (tp) & Eli “Lucky” THOMPSON (ts). 
 Mêmes lieu & date / Same place & date
2. DIPPERMOUTH BLUES (lent/slow) 
(J.Oliver-L.Armstrong) (TMX 120-1) 1’21
3. DIPPERMOUTH BLUES (rapide/fast) (J.Oliver-L.Armstrong)  (TMX 120-4) 1’33
4. SHIMME-SHA-WABLE (S.Williams)  (TMX 130-1) 2’04
5. BALLIN’ THE JACK (C.Smith)  (TMX 131-2) 2’06
6. KING PORTER STOMP (F.Morton)  (TMX 149-2) 2’32
7. MAHOGANY HALL STOMP (lent/slow) (S.Williams)  (TMX 183-1) 3’27
8. MAHOGANY HALL STOMP (rapide/fast) (S.Williams)  (TMX 182-5) 3’32
 

LOUIS ARMSTRONG AND HIS ORCHESTRA
Louis ARMSTRONG (tp, voc)?; Robert BUTLER, Louis GRAY, Ed MULLENS, Andrew “Fatso” FORD (tp)?; Russell “Big Chief” MOORE, Wadder WILLIAMS, Nat ALLEN, James WHITNEY (tb)?; Don HILL, Amos GORDON (as)?; John SPARROW (ts)?; Joe GARLAND (ts, dir)?; Ernest THOMPSON (bars)?; Earl MASON (p)?; Elmer WARNER (g)?; Arvell SHAW (b)?; Edmund McCONNEY (dm)?; Billie HOLIDAY (voc). Mêmes lieu & date / Same place & date
9. THE BLUES ARE BREWIN’ (L.Alter-E.de Lange)  (TMX 140 ?) 3’40
10. ENDIE (L.Alter-E.de Lange)  (TMX 141-A4) 2’19

Formation comme pour 2 à 8 / Personnel as for 2 to 8. Moins/minus  Mutt CAREY & L. THOMPSON ; plus Billie HOLIDAY. Mêmes lieu & date / Same place & date
11. DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO MISS NEW ORLEANS ? (L.Alter-E.de Lange)  (TMX ? ) 1’44
 

1/23 and 2/11 can be found on billie holiday releases.

Edited April 13, 2016 by l p

[AllenLowe]

that may be the latest Arthur Schutt recording available.

[king ubu]

8 hours ago, l p said:

1/23 and 2/11 can be found on billie holiday releases.

I think I first heard them on the ESP Holiday set.

[l p]

13 hours ago, l p said:

1/23 and 2/11 can be found on billie holiday releases.

 

and 2/9   THE BLUES ARE BREWIN’ 

[gmonahan]

On 4/13/2016 at 4:35 PM, l p said:

yes, it's on volume 12. i didn't even know this stuff existed, 

pre-recordings not covered by dialogue or sound-effects, and tunes not used in the final film.

http://www.librairie-audio.com/en/louis-armstrong/1396-integrale-louis-armstrong-vol-12-3561302136226.html

 

cd1

“NEW ORLEANS” (UA film) PRÉ-ENREGISTREMENTS / PRE-RECORDINGS
Louis ARMSTRONG (tp, voc)?; Edward “Kid” ORY (tb)?; A. Barney BIGARD (cl)?; Charlie BEAL (p)?; Arthur “Bud” SCOTT (g)?; George “Red” CALLENDER (b)?; Arthur “Zutty” SINGLETON(dm)?; plus George KENNEDY, Charles YUKL (tp)?; Ellis RONKA, Murray McEACHERN (tb)?; Robert HENNON, John HAMILTON (cl, ts)?; Phillip  MURROW (bars)?; George E. GREEN (tuba)?; John BOUDREAUX (dm).
 Hollywood (Studio & Artists Recorders), entre/between 5/09 & 8/10/1946
14. FLEE AS A BIRD (trad)/WHEN THE SAINTS GO MARCHIN’ IN (trad) (TMX 1-3 & 3A-5) 3’08

Septette comme pour 14 / Septet as for 14. Moins les 9 musiciens de studio / minus the 9 studio musicians. 
 Mêmes lieu & date / Same place & date
15. WEST END BLUES (J.Oliver) (TMX 7-3) 2’49
16. TIGER RAG (D.J.LaRocca) (TMX 33-3) 2’21
17. WHERE THE BLUES WERE BORN IN NEW ORLEANS (Capleton-Dixon) (TMX 42- ) 4’36
18. BUDDY BOLDEN BLUES (2 takes) (F.Morton) (TMX 53 G1-3&G1-4) 1’44
19. BASIN STREET BLUES (Sp.Williams) (TMX 53 S41/42) 4’42
20. RAYMOND STREET BLUES plus 4 HIGH NOTES ON TRUMPET 
(L.Armstrong) (TMX 53 G2-3) 1’24
21. MARYLAND, MY MARYLAND (trad) (TMX 81 ?) 2’59

Louis ARMSTRONG (tp) & prob. Arthur SCHUTT (p)
 Mêmes lieu & date / Same place & date  
22. BRAHMS’ LULLABY (J.Brahms) (TMX 30 B-2) 0’45

Septette comme pour 15 à 21 / Septet as for 15 to 21. Billie HOLIDAY & chœur/choir (voc)
 Mêmes lieu & date / Same place & date  
23. FAREWELL TO STORYVILLE (Good Time Flat Blues) 
(C.Williams) (TMX 84) 3’13

 

cd2

“NEW ORLEANS” (UA film) PRÉ-ENREGISTREMENTS / PRE-RECORDINGS
Louis ARMSTRONG (tp, voc)?; “Kid” ORY (tb)?; A. Barney BIGARD (cl)?; Charlie BEAL(P)?; A. “Bud” SCOTT (g)?; George “Red” CALLENDER (b)?; A. “Zutty” SINGLETON (dm). Hollywood (Studio & Artists  Recorders), entre/between 5/09 & 8/10/1946
1. MILENBERG JOYS (P.Mares-L.Roppolo-F.Morton) 
 (TMX 62-4) 1’54

Septette comme pour 1 / Septet as for 1. Plus Thomas “Mutt” CAREY (tp) & Eli “Lucky” THOMPSON (ts). 
 Mêmes lieu & date / Same place & date
2. DIPPERMOUTH BLUES (lent/slow) 
(J.Oliver-L.Armstrong) (TMX 120-1) 1’21
3. DIPPERMOUTH BLUES (rapide/fast) (J.Oliver-L.Armstrong)  (TMX 120-4) 1’33
4. SHIMME-SHA-WABLE (S.Williams)  (TMX 130-1) 2’04
5. BALLIN’ THE JACK (C.Smith)  (TMX 131-2) 2’06
6. KING PORTER STOMP (F.Morton)  (TMX 149-2) 2’32
7. MAHOGANY HALL STOMP (lent/slow) (S.Williams)  (TMX 183-1) 3’27
8. MAHOGANY HALL STOMP (rapide/fast) (S.Williams)  (TMX 182-5) 3’32
 

LOUIS ARMSTRONG AND HIS ORCHESTRA
Louis ARMSTRONG (tp, voc)?; Robert BUTLER, Louis GRAY, Ed MULLENS, Andrew “Fatso” FORD (tp)?; Russell “Big Chief” MOORE, Wadder WILLIAMS, Nat ALLEN, James WHITNEY (tb)?; Don HILL, Amos GORDON (as)?; John SPARROW (ts)?; Joe GARLAND (ts, dir)?; Ernest THOMPSON (bars)?; Earl MASON (p)?; Elmer WARNER (g)?; Arvell SHAW (b)?; Edmund McCONNEY (dm)?; Billie HOLIDAY (voc). Mêmes lieu & date / Same place & date
9. THE BLUES ARE BREWIN’ (L.Alter-E.de Lange)  (TMX 140 ?) 3’40
10. ENDIE (L.Alter-E.de Lange)  (TMX 141-A4) 2’19

Formation comme pour 2 à 8 / Personnel as for 2 to 8. Moins/minus  Mutt CAREY & L. THOMPSON ; plus Billie HOLIDAY. Mêmes lieu & date / Same place & date
11. DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO MISS NEW ORLEANS ? (L.Alter-E.de Lange)  (TMX ? ) 1’44
 

1/23 and 2/11 can be found on billie holiday releases.

Thanks for the response!

 

 

gregmo