etherbored Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 i've heard this set, but haven't been completely convinced that i need so many discs of doldinger. i'm not completely sold on his tone. it sounds somewhat derivative to me... are you digging it? is the material varied enough to warrant its size? -e- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Yes, I think it's good enough. You have some variety, in that the South America album adds Attila Zoller (and there's a duo of him and Doldinger, also one of Doldinger/Peter Trunk on the live album).... Trunk is an assett, and him and Cees See form a great rhythm section on the live album. The last album has Volker Kriegel on most cuts, and Sadi, too. Disc 4 is a bonus disc, three quartet cuts, two duos with Hoffmann, the rest is wiht other musicians, incl. Rolf Kühn, Kenny Clark/Benoit Quersion (one cut, with Hoffmann), and some more, including two cuts from George Gruntz's "Jazz Goes Baroque" LP and one cut with Mangelsdorff added to the quartet... all live stuff, pretty nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 I notice that the Bards are stocking the Doldinger. I'm quite tempted with that one - looks worth a listen ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbored Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 i'll take a look round when i'm in the EU next month to see if i can pick it up on the cheap... it's funny that you mentioned it, because i've been interested in it since it showed up on my radar a couple months ago. it all predates the passport era, right? -e- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluerein Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 The Doldinger set is on it's way to me too. Indeed pre passport era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Do post something once you get it, Reinier! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveronfriday Posted October 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 (edited) I just gave the entire "Eugen Cicero - Swinging The Classics On MPS" set a spin again and have to just post here once more to give the set a 5-thumbs up. The sound is excellent and the tracks are as well. This should not be compared to some of the later "schmaltzy" stuff (Piano Dreams, or whatever that crud was called, strings and all) that he put out. I remember my dad having one/two of those in his collection and already as a kid not being impressed one bit (technically brilliant, but ...). This stuff here swings! Get it. Edited October 31, 2006 by neveronfriday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbored Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 i agree - in my opinion i prefer it to jacques loussier. maybe there's no comparison. there's something authentic in cicero's conception that makes the material work. generally crossing jazz with classical is a dicey proposition, but it works here. regards, -e- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveronfriday Posted October 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 i agree - in my opinion i prefer it to jacques loussier. maybe there's no comparison. there's something authentic in cicero's conception that makes the material work. generally crossing jazz with classical is a dicey proposition, but it works here. regards, -e- Nicely put, especially since the only way I could think of describing it is that Cicero isn't anal about it as Loussier often was. I also have the Loussier run (which is not bad at all) and I like the Cicero much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbored Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 yeah, i don't want to denegrate loussier at all. his thing is his thing. in cicero's hands, however, this material swings with more authenticity. i hope these sets encourage the universal de decision-makers to open the vaults a bit more... -e- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveronfriday Posted November 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 (edited) yeah, i don't want to denegrate loussier at all. his thing is his thing. in cicero's hands, however, this material swings with more authenticity. i hope these sets encourage the universal de decision-makers to open the vaults a bit more... -e- Agreed on all counts. Currently I'm enjoying the hell out of disc 3 of the Cicero set. "Memories of Clausenburg" might not be everyone's favorite title, but that one swings like mad. "Dort in der Ferne", a decidedly Brubeckian piece, "Der Schlitten Eilt" that one wouldn't expect to have such a South-American rhythm foundation when looking at the title, "Und Bach? (After Prélude In C Minor)" with its pearly runs (that one actually has quite a bit of OP in it), etc. Just great stuff. Maybe it's also because there are some very fond memories attached to this set; memories of a more carefree time way back when (I was a much younger me in the early 70s). Edited November 1, 2006 by neveronfriday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormP Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 Here are the German issues: Many Moods Of Art, BASF MC 25113 Star Spangled Rhythm, BASF MC 25157 (2 record set) Art In The Black Forest, MPS 15172 Art Van Damme & Four Brothers, MPS 15236 Lullaby In Rhythm, MPS 15171 State Of Art, MPS 841413 On The Road, MPS 15235 Blue World, Pausa PR 7027 Keep Going, Pausa PR 7104 Squeezin' Art & Tender Flutes, Pausa PR 7126 Art Van Damme & Friends, Pausa PR 7151 The Art Of Van Damme, Phillips B07189 By Request, Sonic Arts Digital LS12 Ecstasy, SABA SB 15115 ST In San Francisco, SABA SB 15073 ST The above are LPs that were available in US at one time or another. If I remember right "Many Moods of Art" was a 2 record set, my favorite of all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveronfriday Posted November 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 Here are the German issues: Many Moods Of Art, BASF MC 25113 Star Spangled Rhythm, BASF MC 25157 (2 record set) Art In The Black Forest, MPS 15172 Art Van Damme & Four Brothers, MPS 15236 Lullaby In Rhythm, MPS 15171 State Of Art, MPS 841413 On The Road, MPS 15235 Blue World, Pausa PR 7027 Keep Going, Pausa PR 7104 Squeezin' Art & Tender Flutes, Pausa PR 7126 Art Van Damme & Friends, Pausa PR 7151 The Art Of Van Damme, Phillips B07189 By Request, Sonic Arts Digital LS12 Ecstasy, SABA SB 15115 ST In San Francisco, SABA SB 15073 ST The above are LPs that were available in US at one time or another. If I remember right "Many Moods of Art" was a 2 record set, my favorite of all. Thanks! Is that StormP as in THE Danish StormP?. If it is, great online name! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 i own the dvd and it is HAPPENING! it's packed with fantastic arcana and interviews that anyone interested in MPS would love. HIGHLY recommended, -e- ps: naturally, the book is everything claude mentions. barely equaled in terms of sheer aesthetic quality. Just watched the DVD - an excellent tribute to the label. Lots of great archive footage of Oscar and the many artists who recorded for MPS, filmed at HGBS's home and studio. Also some very knowledgeable vinyl-heads talking about some of their favourite MPS platters ! The book is also great. It is indeed the hard-back volume with full discography and sleeve art. Text is in German and English. Recommended ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbored Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 excellent! glad you're enjoying it... -e- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjobbe Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 (edited) @all: there will be a 1,5h TV feature on German WDR-3 aired on 04.01.2007 around midnight (00:20 to be precise) covering the History of MPS records titled Jazz in the Black Forest Doku über das MPS-Label im Schwarzwald, so for those who get it via Sat dish...take a note of that. Hope that I have a working DVD-recorder until than again. Cheers, Tjobbe EDIT: LINK Edited November 5, 2006 by tjobbe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 (edited) @all: there will be a 1,5h TV feature on German WDR-3 aired on 04.01.2007 around midnight (00:20 to be precise) covering the History of MPS records titled Jazz in the Black Forest Doku über das MPS-Label im Schwarzwald, so for those who get it via Sat dish...take a note of that. Hope that I have a working DVD-recorder until than again. Cheers, Tjobbe EDIT: LINK Sounds suspiciously like the documentary on the DVD ! Check it out - it's excellent. PS Tjobbe - got my old analogue satellite system working again so if you haven't the 'record' facility by the date drop me a message and I'll try to record it for you. Edited November 5, 2006 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Garrett Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 On 10/27/2006 at 3:51 PM, Claude said: The book has been published in 1999 already. It contains (in english and german) a brief history of the label, some photos, detailed discographies and reproductions of all album covers including reissues (quite small, 9 on one page). An essential reference for fans of the label, but too academic for the general jazz public. Hard cover, excellent print and binding quality. I just picked up a copy of the limited-edition hardcover, but the CD of unreleased performances was missing from its pocket inside the back cover. There doesn't seem to be much information about it online - can anyone else that has this shed some light on what's contained on the CD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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