JSngry Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 But certainly not less necessary... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Weil Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Riot wouldn't mean anything if it wasn't for the singles (that went before). You need to know what he was before, how much light there was in there, to make sense of the gloom. I listened to those singles (at least some of them) as an unhip teenager and they were fun records to make you dance. I heard "If You Want Me to Stay" (lead cut from Fresh) booming out over the PA when I was working as a volunteer in Toxteth (The black ghetto in Liverpool) and that inspired me so much I did this thing with the lights which actually got one of those black kids looking at me like I could do something. So... Riot is a difficult record to listen to. I compare it elsewhere to Miles' late fusion period (and etc.) Didn't get either of them till many years later. One of those 70s listening to the music not entirely unaided experiences leads me to conclude that Fresh was put together from a sequence of very short edits. I just didn't feel like listening to Riot at the time. Simon Weil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 ..... but this is a group where you can start with the 2CD Essential collection (amazing remastering) and really get the point of everything up through 'Stand' (plus a couple of classic single sides that aren't on any of the albums). I bought that collection on JSngry's recommendation and am very satisfied with it - sure enough for me. It may sound like travesty, but "In Time" from the "Fresh" LP is my all time favourite, probably for its sophisticated riff constructions ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 "In Time" is just too damn funky! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted December 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 But I ask this now -has there ever been anything else like "In Time" off of Fresh until recently, when drum programmers have finally learned how to make the shit snap, crackle, pop, and stutter like it's supposed to? That cut still trips me out like few others. Andy Newmark, y'all! Holy shit, YES!!!!! Picked up the Essential collection, and this track blew me AWAY! If Fresh wasn't where Prince got all his ideas (and I mean every damn one of 'em), it should've been. But those pre-Stand singles..... man oh MAN, makes me wanna pick up the first three albums when they come out as well! Essential? Hell.... it's ALL essential! I put the "Essential" collection on in the car for my son and told him this was one of the funkiest bands to ever walk the planet.... got no argument out of him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulstation1 Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 I have ZERO Sly & TFS cds........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted December 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Get ESSENTIAL. NOW!!! That'll hold you until the remasters come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 His performance at Woodstock is not to be missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted December 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 His performance at Woodstock is not to be missed. What I wouldn't give to have THAT issued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBlutarski Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 I heard today that the reissues of Sly Cd's are coming out in march.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Got to hear that "tribute/remix" album that got released last year, and man is it lame. Corporations ain't got a clue as to how to do this kind of thing. Except... Chuck D teams up with Isacc Hayes & D'Angelo (and, of course, the original record) for a "Sing A Simple Song" that's going on my all-time party list as of yesterday. Might even like it better than the orignal by the time it's over. DAMN is that shit where it needs to be. Still got much love for Chuck D here. If I did the download by song thing, this would definitely be cause for celebration. Fuck the rest of it, pay a buck for this one song and be happy for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 the idea of Hendrix-- not the style so much at all) Yes, that was what I always felt - not imitating Hendrix but just doing what he thought JH might have done if he were in Prince's position, then. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 These are availiable for pre-order at CD Universe. Be sure to use the Organissimo links! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 PLease remind me how the organissimo link works... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 (edited) There appears to be a box set collecting them all at a reduced price. . . . Edited February 24, 2007 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 There appears to be a box set collecting them all at a reduced price. . . . Aha! Zoundz! MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Here's an article with info on the bonus tracks: http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/articl...t_id=1003528000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBlutarski Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 There appears to be a box set collecting them all at a reduced price. . . . Aha! Zoundz! MG any more news about that box??? JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 PLease remind me how the organissimo link works... Go to the top of the page, and in the "Search Music" box, enter Sly and choose CD universe from the drop down box on the right. It will take you to Sly's music on CD universe and you'll be supporting the band if you decide to make the purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 (edited) Might want to grab these when they come out. Looks like they're going the limited (to how many I'm not sure) route. PR Newswire link (printed in full below) Legacy Editions of Sly & the Family Stone Catalog Albums Will Not Be Re-Pressed After Initial Run Has Sold Out Highly Collectible Individually Numbered Expanded Editions of Sly's Groundbreaking R&B/Funk/Pop Classic Albums Available Separately OR Together in Deluxe Box Set on Tuesday, April 10 NEW YORK, Feb. 16 /PRNewswire/ -- Starting forty years ago this year, Sly & the Family Stone began breaking down the barriers between R&B, rock & roll and pop music with an uninterrupted string of revolutionary hit singles and groundbreaking albums which included A Whole New Thing (1967), Dance To The Music (1968), Life (1968), Stand! (1969), There's A Riot Goin' On (1971), Fresh (1973), and Small Talk (1974). Legacy Recordings is celebrating Sly's enormous and abiding musical and cultural achievement with a highly collectible deluxe limited edition run of each of the pioneering albums from Sly's hit-packed Epic Records catalog, available individually or in a special boxed set, for a limited time only beginning Tuesday, April 10. All seven titles, as well as the boxed set, will be individually numbered in custom digi-paks. None of the albums, nor the boxed set, will be re-pressed once the initial run has sold out. Produced for re-issue by Bob Irwin and mastered by Vic Anesini at Sony Music Studios in New York, each of the titles in the Sly & the Family Stone limited edition series includes rare B-Sides and previously unreleased bonus tracks as well as new liner notes by the nation's top music journalists. As testimony to the enduring power of Sly & the Family Stone and the group's music, this year's Grammy for Best R&B Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals went to "Family Affair," a track performed by John Legend, Joss Stone with Van Hunt from Different Strokes by Different Folks, a Sly & the Family Stone all-star tribute/remix album on Epic/Legacy Recordings. Individual titles in the Legacy Recording's Sly & the Family Stone deluxe limited edition series include: A WHOLE NEW THING (released late-1967), with "Trip To Your Heart," "Run, Run, Run," five bonus tracks including mono single versions of the B-sides "Let Me Hear It From You" and "Underdog," plus a previously unreleased instrumental track; with original liner notes by San Francisco-Oakland DJ John Hardy and new liner notes by Bud Scoppa. DANCE TO THE MUSIC (1968), with the Top 10 title hit, six bonus tracks including mono single versions of "Dance To the Music" and "Higher," and three previously unreleased tracks (including Otis Redding's "Can't Turn You Loose"); with original liner notes by Sly and New York DJ Al Gee, and new liner notes by Greg Tate. LIFE (1968), with the title tune single b/w "M'Lady," four bonus tracks including a mono single version of "Dynamite!" and three previously unreleased tracks; with original liner notes by New York DJ Rosko, and new liner notes by Ben Edmonds. STAND! (1969), breakthrough album with the string of hits "Every day People," "Sing A Simple Song," "Stand!" and "I Want To Take You Higher," five bonus tracks including three mono single versions and two previously unreleased tracks; with new liner notes by England's Barney Hoskyns. THERE'S A RIOT GOIN' ON (1971), landmark #1 album with "Family Affair," "Runnin' Away," and "(You Caught Me) Smilin'," four bonus tracks including one mono single version and three previously unreleased instrumental tracks; with new liner notes by the San Francisco Chronicle's Joel Selvin. FRESH (1973), with "If You Want Me To Stay," "Frisky," "If It Were Left Up To Me," and "Que Sera, Sera" (the only cover in Sly's entire original album catalog), five bonus tracks -- all alternate mixes of unreleased album masters; with new liner notes by Toure. SMALL TALK (1974), the group's final Epic album, with "Time For Livin'" and "Loose Booty," four previously unreleased bonus tracks including three alternate versions; with original liner notes by Steve Lake of Melody Maker, and new liners by Alex Stimmel. http://www.legacyrecordings.com Edited February 26, 2007 by Quincy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 PLease remind me how the organissimo link works... Go to the top of the page, and in the "Search Music" box, enter Sly and choose CD universe from the drop down box on the right. It will take you to Sly's music on CD universe and you'll be supporting the band if you decide to make the purchase. Thanks! What if one just adds things to one's wish list for later? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBlutarski Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Might want to grab these when they come out. Looks like they're going the limited (to how many I'm not sure) route. PR Newswire link (printed in full below) Legacy Editions of Sly & the Family Stone Catalog Albums Will Not Be Re-Pressed After Initial Run Has Sold Out Highly Collectible Individually Numbered Expanded Editions of Sly's Groundbreaking R&B/Funk/Pop Classic Albums Available Separately OR Together in Deluxe Box Set on Tuesday, April 10 NEW YORK, Feb. 16 /PRNewswire/ -- Starting forty years ago this year, Sly & the Family Stone began breaking down the barriers between R&B, rock & roll and pop music with an uninterrupted string of revolutionary hit singles and groundbreaking albums which included A Whole New Thing (1967), Dance To The Music (1968), Life (1968), Stand! (1969), There's A Riot Goin' On (1971), Fresh (1973), and Small Talk (1974). Legacy Recordings is celebrating Sly's enormous and abiding musical and cultural achievement with a highly collectible deluxe limited edition run of each of the pioneering albums from Sly's hit-packed Epic Records catalog, available individually or in a special boxed set, for a limited time only beginning Tuesday, April 10. All seven titles, as well as the boxed set, will be individually numbered in custom digi-paks. None of the albums, nor the boxed set, will be re-pressed once the initial run has sold out. Produced for re-issue by Bob Irwin and mastered by Vic Anesini at Sony Music Studios in New York, each of the titles in the Sly & the Family Stone limited edition series includes rare B-Sides and previously unreleased bonus tracks as well as new liner notes by the nation's top music journalists. As testimony to the enduring power of Sly & the Family Stone and the group's music, this year's Grammy for Best R&B Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals went to "Family Affair," a track performed by John Legend, Joss Stone with Van Hunt from Different Strokes by Different Folks, a Sly & the Family Stone all-star tribute/remix album on Epic/Legacy Recordings. Individual titles in the Legacy Recording's Sly & the Family Stone deluxe limited edition series include: A WHOLE NEW THING (released late-1967), with "Trip To Your Heart," "Run, Run, Run," five bonus tracks including mono single versions of the B-sides "Let Me Hear It From You" and "Underdog," plus a previously unreleased instrumental track; with original liner notes by San Francisco-Oakland DJ John Hardy and new liner notes by Bud Scoppa. DANCE TO THE MUSIC (1968), with the Top 10 title hit, six bonus tracks including mono single versions of "Dance To the Music" and "Higher," and three previously unreleased tracks (including Otis Redding's "Can't Turn You Loose"); with original liner notes by Sly and New York DJ Al Gee, and new liner notes by Greg Tate. LIFE (1968), with the title tune single b/w "M'Lady," four bonus tracks including a mono single version of "Dynamite!" and three previously unreleased tracks; with original liner notes by New York DJ Rosko, and new liner notes by Ben Edmonds. STAND! (1969), breakthrough album with the string of hits "Every day People," "Sing A Simple Song," "Stand!" and "I Want To Take You Higher," five bonus tracks including three mono single versions and two previously unreleased tracks; with new liner notes by England's Barney Hoskyns. THERE'S A RIOT GOIN' ON (1971), landmark #1 album with "Family Affair," "Runnin' Away," and "(You Caught Me) Smilin'," four bonus tracks including one mono single version and three previously unreleased instrumental tracks; with new liner notes by the San Francisco Chronicle's Joel Selvin. FRESH (1973), with "If You Want Me To Stay," "Frisky," "If It Were Left Up To Me," and "Que Sera, Sera" (the only cover in Sly's entire original album catalog), five bonus tracks -- all alternate mixes of unreleased album masters; with new liner notes by Toure. SMALL TALK (1974), the group's final Epic album, with "Time For Livin'" and "Loose Booty," four previously unreleased bonus tracks including three alternate versions; with original liner notes by Steve Lake of Melody Maker, and new liners by Alex Stimmel. http://www.legacyrecordings.com what nonsense to make this limited!! don't they want to sell alot of these?? or will there be an unlimited version afterwards. it doesn't say that... (yet)... jb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Don't know that there's a lot of "general interest" in Sly's music (as opposed to Sly the "legend") these days. What's best known/loved are the hits, and those are well-represented & available. The albums are definitely for more "specialized" tastes (and I will be getting them), but really, for the long haul, the hits (and, of course, Riot) tell the story that most needs to be told. I will say this - if Legacy was gauging the market by that mostly P.O.S. tribute/remix/whatever side they put out last year, they shot themself in the foot big time. Other than a killer track of Chuck D. doing "Sing A Simple Song", that thing sucked donkey dix. Hardly a good way to stir up interest among new audiences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Might want to grab these when they come out. Looks like they're going the limited (to how many I'm not sure) route. PR Newswire link (printed in full below) Legacy Editions of Sly & the Family Stone Catalog Albums Will Not Be Re-Pressed After Initial Run Has Sold Out Highly Collectible Individually Numbered Expanded Editions of Sly's Groundbreaking R&B/Funk/Pop Classic Albums Available Separately OR Together in Deluxe Box Set on Tuesday, April 10 NEW YORK, Feb. 16 /PRNewswire/ -- Starting forty years ago this year, Sly & the Family Stone began breaking down the barriers between R&B, rock & roll and pop music with an uninterrupted string of revolutionary hit singles and groundbreaking albums which included A Whole New Thing (1967), Dance To The Music (1968), Life (1968), Stand! (1969), There's A Riot Goin' On (1971), Fresh (1973), and Small Talk (1974). Legacy Recordings is celebrating Sly's enormous and abiding musical and cultural achievement with a highly collectible deluxe limited edition run of each of the pioneering albums from Sly's hit-packed Epic Records catalog, available individually or in a special boxed set, for a limited time only beginning Tuesday, April 10. All seven titles, as well as the boxed set, will be individually numbered in custom digi-paks. None of the albums, nor the boxed set, will be re-pressed once the initial run has sold out. Produced for re-issue by Bob Irwin and mastered by Vic Anesini at Sony Music Studios in New York, each of the titles in the Sly & the Family Stone limited edition series includes rare B-Sides and previously unreleased bonus tracks as well as new liner notes by the nation's top music journalists. As testimony to the enduring power of Sly & the Family Stone and the group's music, this year's Grammy for Best R&B Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals went to "Family Affair," a track performed by John Legend, Joss Stone with Van Hunt from Different Strokes by Different Folks, a Sly & the Family Stone all-star tribute/remix album on Epic/Legacy Recordings. Individual titles in the Legacy Recording's Sly & the Family Stone deluxe limited edition series include: A WHOLE NEW THING (released late-1967), with "Trip To Your Heart," "Run, Run, Run," five bonus tracks including mono single versions of the B-sides "Let Me Hear It From You" and "Underdog," plus a previously unreleased instrumental track; with original liner notes by San Francisco-Oakland DJ John Hardy and new liner notes by Bud Scoppa. DANCE TO THE MUSIC (1968), with the Top 10 title hit, six bonus tracks including mono single versions of "Dance To the Music" and "Higher," and three previously unreleased tracks (including Otis Redding's "Can't Turn You Loose"); with original liner notes by Sly and New York DJ Al Gee, and new liner notes by Greg Tate. LIFE (1968), with the title tune single b/w "M'Lady," four bonus tracks including a mono single version of "Dynamite!" and three previously unreleased tracks; with original liner notes by New York DJ Rosko, and new liner notes by Ben Edmonds. STAND! (1969), breakthrough album with the string of hits "Every day People," "Sing A Simple Song," "Stand!" and "I Want To Take You Higher," five bonus tracks including three mono single versions and two previously unreleased tracks; with new liner notes by England's Barney Hoskyns. THERE'S A RIOT GOIN' ON (1971), landmark #1 album with "Family Affair," "Runnin' Away," and "(You Caught Me) Smilin'," four bonus tracks including one mono single version and three previously unreleased instrumental tracks; with new liner notes by the San Francisco Chronicle's Joel Selvin. FRESH (1973), with "If You Want Me To Stay," "Frisky," "If It Were Left Up To Me," and "Que Sera, Sera" (the only cover in Sly's entire original album catalog), five bonus tracks -- all alternate mixes of unreleased album masters; with new liner notes by Toure. SMALL TALK (1974), the group's final Epic album, with "Time For Livin'" and "Loose Booty," four previously unreleased bonus tracks including three alternate versions; with original liner notes by Steve Lake of Melody Maker, and new liners by Alex Stimmel. http://www.legacyrecordings.com what nonsense to make this limited!! don't they want to sell alot of these?? or will there be an unlimited version afterwards. it doesn't say that... (yet)... jb Possibly they may put these out in jewel cases years later, they did the same with the seventies live Miles stuff such as "Live/Evil", "In Concert". . . digipaks were limited editions, took years to sell out, then they came out in jewel case editions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 PLease remind me how the organissimo link works... Go to the top of the page, and in the "Search Music" box, enter Sly and choose CD universe from the drop down box on the right. It will take you to Sly's music on CD universe and you'll be supporting the band if you decide to make the purchase. Thanks! What if one just adds things to one's wish list for later? I'm not sure about that one, Adam. You might want to PM one of the guys in the band, or post that question in the "Forums Discussion" thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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